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Outlawmws

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Handle - Straighten the one you have in place on the screw; its not that bad.

Swivel lock - you better see what else is MIA inside - the Parkers use a brake shoe system, so somethng may be missing as you should have a stud sticking out, not a bolt going in.
 
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Handle - Straighten the one you have in place on the screw; its not that bad.

Swivel lock - you better see what else is MIA inside - the Parkers use a brake shoe system, so somethng may be missing as you should have a stud sticking out, not a bolt going in.

I started pricing parts and got sticker shock. Someone was selling the wrench - which I need - for $150. So I just bought another vise from eBay - with original wrench - for $190.

I'll keep the original one and source parts to complete it as I find stuff that's reasonably priced.

thanks

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That looks like a nice example!

I think so, too. There are quite a few available on eBay, so I picked the one that looked original and fairly unmolested.

Anyway, it looks like it should be ready to go as-is, but may end up doing a quick disassembly so I can clean and lube it and strip the paint off.

Thanks
 

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I think so, too. There are quite a few available on eBay, so I picked the one that looked original and fairly unmolested.

Anyway, it looks like it should be ready to go as-is, but may end up doing a quick disassembly so I can clean and lube it and strip the paint off.

Thanks
She looks like a user right out of the box. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! Nice pick up.
 

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LONG-overdue post: This is the cleanest, oldest Prentiss Vise that I’ve ever owned, and it comes with two never-seen surprises 👀

As a lover and avid researcher of the Prentiss Vise Company, this may not be my holy grail…but it’s close. Retrieved from the basement of an old home in Nobleboro, Maine, this Prentiss № 1 (2 5/8 jaws) is in incredible condition, and was made between 1877-1894. It’s still coated with 99% of the original japanning finish, and the tail is pristine enough that the rarely-seen “Prentiss Vise Co, NY” stamp is still visible. But that’s not even the best part…There are two “features” of this vise that I’ve never seen or heard of before, both of which are only present because of how well the vise has been preserved.

#1: Initially when I received the vise, I noticed the handle didn’t slide smoothly through the spindle. At first I simply suspected gunk or rust inside the meatball, but no…there’s a small spring inside the meatball, compressing the handle so that it can be slid to any position and conveniently kept in place. I imagine with use, this spring inevitably would wear down and fall out, explaining why I’ve never seen another Prentiss vise that still possesses one.

#2: The only visible hammer marks on the vise surround the tops of both jaws, but they’re still light and few enough that the eye can see at least three patent stamps, “MCH 17 68, APR 11 71, FEB 6 77”, with potentially one other barely visible. These correspond perfectly to the dates of the first patents that Prentiss held, including Mason Prentiss’ original 1868 swivel jaw patent.

The presence of the February 6, 1877 obviously indicates a manufacture date of no earlier than 1877. I also believe it was made no later than 1894. At this time, Prentiss began advertising its vises with thicker walls on the static jaw that resulted in a very visible tapered slope between the top of the static jaw and the swivel jaw. I have an example of this later style in my collection as well.

So pleased to have this wonderful example in my collection. Pieces like this further our understanding of a companies whose histories are quickly disappearing. Let’s keep it alive!
 

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Follow-up post with pictures of the later style with thicker walls and visible slope at the junction of the top of the static jaw and the swivel jaw. Prentiss eventually removed this slope by simply increasing the thickness of the rest of the vise (not just expanding the “cheek bone” as I call it). However, by the time that this slope disappeared, Prentiss was marking its vises with more easily recognizable, cast-in identifiers

Also an early catalog scan that advertises the three patents present on the vise
 

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Looking for the wrench and bolt that operates the swivel brake for a 973 Parker. Bolt is 7/16" coarse thread; head is 9/16". Anyone know where I can find one?

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Closing out the week with this beautiful piece of Prentiss Vise Company history...

This envelope is stamped January 1st (New Year's Day), 1882 and dual-marked with both the Hall Manufacturing Company and the Prentiss Vise Company names. The envelope is dated just 254 days after the Hall Manufacturing Company officially changed its name to the Prentiss Vise Company on April 18, 1881 by order of the Supreme Court of New York. Undoubtedly, Hall Manufacturing had a surplus of stationary that they didn't want to waste, so older envelopes like these were apparently re-stamped, serving a dual purpose of utilizing old stationary while also making it clear to the receiving party that business had not ended for the company, but only a name change had taken place.

All the best, and have a great weekend!
 

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The catalog is from 1887,...
Thanks.
...but your vise is likely early 1900s. Similarly to most companies, Millers Falls made their vises with round meatballs in the 1800s, but the vast majority of manufacturers switched to the marshmallow style (yours) simpler and easier to machine.
Rgr/Ack. In this case, it's aesthetically pleasing with the oval slide. Like a barrel or pipe, very continuous to the eye, from spindle to back. Full admission, it's not in my possession. I was a little put off by the lack of markings, and the price was a little steep for an unknown vise.
 
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Closing out the week with this beautiful piece of Prentiss Vise Company history...

This envelope is stamped January 1st (New Year's Day), 1882 and dual-marked with both the Hall Manufacturing Company and the Prentiss Vise Company names. The envelope is dated just 254 days after the Hall Manufacturing Company officially changed its name to the Prentiss Vise Company on April 18, 1881 by order of the Supreme Court of New York. Undoubtedly, Hall Manufacturing had a surplus of stationary that they didn't want to waste, so older envelopes like these were apparently re-stamped, serving a dual purpose of utilizing old stationary while also making it clear to the receiving party that business had not ended for the company, but only a name change had taken place.

All the best, and have a great weekend!
That's pretty dang neat! Why was Hall Manufacturing Co. forced to change the name?
 

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Closing out the week with this beautiful piece of Prentiss Vise Company history...

This envelope is stamped January 1st (New Year's Day), 1882 and dual-marked with both the Hall Manufacturing Company and the Prentiss Vise Company names. The envelope is dated just 254 days after the Hall Manufacturing Company officially changed its name to the Prentiss Vise Company on April 18, 1881 by order of the Supreme Court of New York. Undoubtedly, Hall Manufacturing had a surplus of stationary that they didn't want to waste, so older envelopes like these were apparently re-stamped, serving a dual purpose of utilizing old stationary while also making it clear to the receiving party that business had not ended for the company, but only a name change had taken place.

All the best, and have a great weekend!
That is a very neat piece of ephemera! New Year's Day didn't become a Federal holiday for federal employees outside Washington D.C. until 1885, so it may have been possible for an envelope to be canceled on Jan 1 prior to then, but Jan 1, 1882 was a Sunday. I went down this rabbit hole because, to me, it seems there is a horizontal line crossing the "1" which probably makes it a 4. A cool artifact, none the less!
 

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That's pretty dang neat! Why was Hall Manufacturing Co. forced to change the name?
Thanks, Bryson! An “order” from the Supreme Court usually means nothing more than a statement or a call to action. In this instance, the owners of the Hall Manufacturing Company petitioned the Supreme Court of New York for the name change primarily because customers had repeatedly confused other New York businesses of similar names with the Hall Manufacturing Company and vice versa. This is according to the original Supreme Court order itself
 

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That is a very neat piece of ephemera! New Year's Day didn't become a Federal holiday for federal employees outside Washington D.C. until 1885, so it may have been possible for an envelope to be canceled on Jan 1 prior to then, but Jan 1, 1882 was a Sunday. I went down this rabbit hole because, to me, it seems there is a horizontal line crossing the "1" which probably makes it a 4. A cool artifact, none the less!
Much appreciated! That’s very interesting, and thank you for that observation. Viewing it in person, it certainly looks like a funky “1”, but I just checked…Jan 1st 1882 was a Sunday, so even aside from what would become New Years Day a few years later, I doubt anyone would have been in the office in those days. To me, that would certainly seem to put January 4th in the lead as the likely date
 

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I've been wanting a post vise lately but they're a bit spendy for the condition they're in. Anyone ever seen a regular vise converted into one? I reckon not even worth brainstorming since the thread has to float to travel at an arc.
 

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Started the day with three vises in need of a refresh - two Parker 973's (one for parts and one to use?) and a beat to hell Rock Island 94. I need a 973 for the house garage and the Rock Island 94 is headed to the shop.

Started on the "parts vise." Got it from my neighbor a few years ago; didn't have a need for it, but I can't pass up a brand name vise at a decent price.

And as of a few weeks ago, I needed a vise for my chainsaw workstation/workbench (used to hold the bar while I sharpen the chain).

Starting point:

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Figured there was a decent vise under the 5 coats of paint, and I was right.

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Decided to leave it au naturale, but with a coat of BLO. I robbed the wrench and the brake shoe bolt from my other 973, which is really nice, but I guess it's my parts vise now?


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I guess I'll hang on to the other 973 for now; don't have a spot for it, but eventually I'll have a need for it.

Hope to finish up the 94 tomorrow. It's kind of beat up, so I may throw a coat of paint on it.
 

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Another estate sale find, a Paramo No. 6. It was still bolted to the workbench in the garage, and I asked one of the gals working the sale if it was for sale. She said she would have to go ask. She came back and apologetically said "Well, we would have to get at least $20 for it."
Well, OK then...
Note the English spelling of vice.
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Athol 613. 3” jaws that opens to 4” and weights 26 lbs. this one is mine that I will donate to an island auction for our middle school with 7 students. For the spreadsheet.
 

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I've been wanting a post vise lately but they're a bit spendy for the condition they're in. Anyone ever seen a regular vise converted into one? I reckon not even worth brainstorming since the thread has to float to travel at an arc.

You can't really convert a bench vise that way simply because the material is different. A cast iron bench vise will very quickly break when beaten on like a hammer-forged post vise.
 
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