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The French-made Peugeot pepper and salt grinder is the most iconic design and certainly one of the most reliable grinders on the market

People are sometimes surprised to learn it’s the same Peugeot that makes automobiles (and top quality bicycles in years past). The Peugeot showroom on the Champs-Elysees in Paris has new and vintage cars on display and pepper mills and other merchandise for sale.
 
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That one is already on the way. Kyocera is known for their advanced ceramics, and the mill I bought from them was supposed to be a high end one.
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There is a Puegeot pepper grinder our kitchen, great little machine. Being enamored of it we then bought their salt mill which is an unmitigated chunk of ****. Don't be tempted.
 

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People are sometimes surprised to learn it’s the same Peugeot that makes automobiles (and top quality bicycles in years past). The Peugeot showroom on the Champs-Elysees in Paris has new and vintage cars on display and pepper mills and other merchandise for sale.
They ought to stick to pepper grinders.
 

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Some made-in-Japan writing tools that I recently bought. The Pentel Orenznero pencil was purchased at Amazon-US and all the other items were purchased at JetPens.com
I never had a problem with 0.5mm leads breaking, but I do break 0.3mm leads easily in my "standard" mechanical pencils. So I was on the hunt for a better 0.3mm mechanical pencil with features that protect the lead.
The Pentel Orenz ($7) has the simplest mechanism of the 4 pencils I bought. It has a sliding sleeve/guide pipe to support the lead.
The Mitsubishi/UNI Advance pencil ($8.50) also has a sliding guide pipe. In addition, the "Kuru Toga Engine" rotates the lead at twice the speed of the standard UNI pencil.
The Zebra DelGuard pencil ($7) has a unique dual spring mechanism to protect the lead from breaking.
The Pentel Orenznero ($17) has a sliding guide pipe and automatic lead advance. The Orenznero and the Orenz are also available in the 0.2mm size.

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I also bought some Mitsubishi/UNI "Jetstream" ballpoint pens ($2.50 ea) in 4 tip sizes: 0.38. 0.5, 0.7, 1.0mm.
JetPens says the Pentel "Ain" 0.3mm leads are more break resistant than the Pentel Hi-Polymer leads I have been using for years.
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salt mill which is an unmitigated chunk of ****
I think the issue there is that salt requires more corrosion resistance so I think the burrs are different for salt and pepper mills. Also salt comes with all kinds of different moisture levels and it can be hard to mill it sometimes no matter what.


More on topic, here is the Kuru Toga I use at work:

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Some made-in-Japan writing tools that I recently bought. The Pentel Orenznero pencil was purchased at Amazon-US and all the other items were purchased at JetPens.com
I never had a problem with 0.5mm leads breaking, but I do break 0.3mm leads easily in my "standard" mechanical pencils. So I was on the hunt for a better 0.3mm mechanical pencil with features that protect the lead.
The Pentel Orenz ($7) has the simplest mechanism of the 4 pencils I bought. It has a sliding sleeve/guide pipe to support the lead.
The Mitsubishi/UNI Advance pencil ($8.50) also has a sliding guide pipe. In addition, the "Kuru Toga Engine" rotates the lead at twice the speed of the standard UNI pencil.
The Zebra DelGuard pencil ($7) has a unique dual spring mechanism to protect the lead from breaking.
The Pentel Orenznero ($17) has a sliding guide pipe and automatic lead advance. The Orenznero and the Orenz are also available in the 0.2mm size.

DSC02306.JPG


I also bought some Mitsubishi/UNI "Jetstream" ballpoint pens ($2.50 ea) in 4 tip sizes: 0.38. 0.5, 0.7, 1.0mm.
JetPens says the Pentel "Ain" 0.3mm leads are more break resistant than the Pentel Hi-Polymer leads I have been using for years.
DSC02309.JPG
As far as I can tell, UNI kuru TOGA is useless for sketching, drawing and technical drawing. 1000 PG101 or Pentel graph 1000 for pro – the best choice IMHO.
 

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Amazon gift card. Engineer PH-55 scissors. Engineer TWM-03 smart wrench. Another IPS HLB-300 pliers, I gave my previous set to my son since he liked them.

I like the scissors because they look like an alligator. They are a little bit plastic feeling, not the same handle material as their pliers. I think they'll be useful around the shop. Snapping the cover on is satisfying. I snipped off the zip ties on the pliers package and they cut them easily.20240909_121101.jpg
 

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The super thin adjustable wrench seems OK. Not sure what I'll need them for, but when I need a 2mm thick adjustable wrench I'll be ready.
 

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Some made-in-Japan writing tools that I recently bought. The Pentel Orenznero pencil was purchased at Amazon-US and all the other items were purchased at JetPens.com
I never had a problem with 0.5mm leads breaking, but I do break 0.3mm leads easily in my "standard" mechanical pencils. So I was on the hunt for a better 0.3mm mechanical pencil with features that protect the lead.
The Pentel Orenz ($7) has the simplest mechanism of the 4 pencils I bought. It has a sliding sleeve/guide pipe to support the lead.
The Mitsubishi/UNI Advance pencil ($8.50) also has a sliding guide pipe. In addition, the "Kuru Toga Engine" rotates the lead at twice the speed of the standard UNI pencil.
The Zebra DelGuard pencil ($7) has a unique dual spring mechanism to protect the lead from breaking.
The Pentel Orenznero ($17) has a sliding guide pipe and automatic lead advance. The Orenznero and the Orenz are also available in the 0.2mm size.

DSC02306.JPG


I also bought some Mitsubishi/UNI "Jetstream" ballpoint pens ($2.50 ea) in 4 tip sizes: 0.38. 0.5, 0.7, 1.0mm.
JetPens says the Pentel "Ain" 0.3mm leads are more break resistant than the Pentel Hi-Polymer leads I have been using for years.
DSC02309.JPG
The “default” mechanical pencil is probably the Pentel - a simple and reliable classic.

Pentel used to offer the 0.3 model with the option of a sliding sleeve. These are discontinued, which is a shame, because the 0.3 really benefits from this feature.

Rotring used to offer their pencils with either a fully sliding sleeve (light green body) or a half sliding sleeve (dark red body ). These were excellent implements - the half sliding sleeve designed for use with stencils (a peculiarly German thing) or rules, the fully sliding for sketching.

Here is the Pentel (top) compared to the regular P203 (mid) and a Rotring (below). I particularly liked the feel of the Rotring, and this one is much used!
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The 0.3mm pencils are great for use on aeronautical charts (or I should say “were” since most airlines now use electronic charts). Some implements used by a British long haul pilot (me) shown below! Pentel pencils in .3 and .7 (with 2B leads), British made scale and protractor, beautiful dividers by Haff (more of a drawing tool than a navigators) and an irreplaceable Aristo 613 computer!
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Thank you. Been looking at them for 2 years. Sure, not getting any younger so I grabbed them.
Waiting on my set.

These look great. Any observations? How is the balance of these? The handles look great along with the finishing of the steel.
 

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That would be great for jam nuts, one thin wrench to cover every size one might need.
Yes. Happens a lot on forks for kids scooters etc. Thin 35mm jam nuts. I have a lot of wrenches and it is rare i have nothing to work ... much less for something simple. What are the manufacturers thinking that everyone will have two 35 mm thin wrenches ... sheeze. Two thin wide adjustables back to back work well though.
 

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Waiting on my set.

These look great. Any observations? How is the balance of these? The handles look great along with the finishing of the steel.
To be honest I really like the Megadora. Can't tell if these are as comfortable, yet.
I want them to be better, not sure that they are. That said, I have only held them so far, no real use yet.
 

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The “default” mechanical pencil is probably the Pentel - a simple and reliable classic.

Pentel used to offer the 0.3 model with the option of a sliding sleeve. These are discontinued, which is a shame, because the 0.3 really benefits from this feature.

Rotring used to offer their pencils with either a fully sliding sleeve (light green body) or a half sliding sleeve (dark red body ). These were excellent implements - the half sliding sleeve designed for use with stencils (a peculiarly German thing) or rules, the fully sliding for sketching.

Here is the Pentel (top) compared to the regular P203 (mid) and a Rotring (below). I particularly liked the feel of the Rotring, and this one is much used!
IMG_0410.jpeg

The 0.3mm pencils are great for use on aeronautical charts (or I should say “were” since most airlines now use electronic charts). Some implements used by a British long haul pilot (me) shown below! Pentel pencils in .3 and .7 (with 2B leads), British made scale and protractor, beautiful dividers by Haff (more of a drawing tool than a navigators) and an irreplaceable Aristo 613 computer!
IMG_0411.jpeg
I really enjoy my Rotring 600 and 800 mechanical pencils. They're all brass. Not sure where they're made. Sadly someone stole my 600 a couple months ago at work so I keep my 800 at home and have the kuru toga there instead.

To be honest I really like the Megadora. Can't tell if these are as comfortable, yet.
I want them to be better, not sure that they are. That said, I have only held them so far, no real use yet.
It's a prefference thing. I like how beefy the Powergrip shank is, few other screwdrivers come close to that heft. Megadora is soft handle so I don't particularly like them, but for general use I have some vessel crystaline ones that are really nice as well. The Powergrip is more heavy duty and I use them more for prying and that sort of stuff.
 
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I really enjoy my Rotring 600 and 800 mechanical pencils. They're all brass. Not sure where they're made. Sadly someone stole my 600 a couple months ago at work so I keep my 800 at home and have the kuru toga there instead.

I can remember when Rotring first started producing “regular” pens and pencils, rather than draughting tools. Mid 80’s In think.

The first they produced were an aluminium pen and retractable pencil in the style of their conventional automatic pencils. I bought a set (not cheap at the time) but they were lovely to use.
IMG_0441.jpeg

The 600 range came a little later, and you’re right, they are beautifully made. The originals were German made, and the range included a fountain pen. I didn’t buy one, as I was into more traditional pens at the time, but I regret not doing so as Rotring did a superb job on them, and they became a modern classic.

Rotring was bought out however, and many of their lines were dropped. The range of drawing pens was reduced, many drawing instruments were dropped or cheapened, and the rights to the “Aristo” navigation instruments were also disposed of.

The 600 series continued though, along with it’s similarly numbered relatives. The pens and pencils today are produced in Japan (which I suppose gets us back on topic) and I have to admit they are still of very decent quality.

I generally use a pair of 600 series ballpoints at work (with Schneider “slider “ refills).
IMG_0442.jpeg
 

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Amazon gift card. Engineer PH-55 scissors. Engineer TWM-03 smart wrench. Another IPS HLB-300 pliers, I gave my previous set to my son since he liked them.

I like the scissors because they look like an alligator. They are a little bit plastic feeling, not the same handle material as their pliers. I think they'll be useful around the shop. Snapping the cover on is satisfying. I snipped off the zip ties on the pliers package and they cut them easily.20240909_121101.jpg
What did you pay for the HLB-300s if you don't mind me asking? After a Rakuten order fell apart, I had a pair of these in my Amazon cart for a long while watching the price go up and down til it dropped low enough to buy. I forgot what I paid, but it was reasonable.
 

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What did you pay for the HLB-300s if you don't mind me asking? After a Rakuten order fell apart, I had a pair of these in my Amazon cart for a long while watching the price go up and down til it dropped low enough to buy. I forgot what I paid, but it was reasonable.
They were $25 free shipping. I got them cheaper the first time I bought them, I think it was $18 free shipping from Japan on Amazon.
 

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Will add this here too. Vessel has a few of these compact wood handle kits. This one is a perfect supplement to the factory Toyota/Lexus one in my GX. Fits right into the rear door compartment and straps down for travel.

Would you mind posting the dimensions of the case? Wondering if it would fit in the same spot in my LX.
 

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I been making a list of japanese tools for my wish list. Maybe I’ll make a Amazon Japan account like I read about once I got enough to make the shipping make sense since I read it stacks.

KTC trim tool set U-shaped pink handles 3 pack
Koken spark plug socket set I like the ones with the built in extension
Koken socket extensions
Koken 1/4 zeal super shallow sockets
Koken nut grip sockets prob 1/4 or 3/8 in shallow

from another thread I saw the non zeal is the better extension with more knurling
the spark plug sockets are zeal is better
nut grip don’t come in zeal just non zeal

damn I don’t even want to add up the price of all this 🤣
 

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“Restored” Truecraft brand SAE ratcheting wrenches, made in Japan:

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These were tricky to find in a complete set, but a little work and these are like new again. I’d assume they have date codes on them, with most being from the mid-90’s.

Love the heavy duty feel of these.
 

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I been making a list of japanese tools for my wish list. Maybe I’ll make a Amazon Japan account like I read about once I got enough to make the shipping make sense since I read it stacks.

KTC trim tool set U-shaped pink handles 3 pack
Koken spark plug socket set I like the ones with the built in extension
Koken socket extensions
Koken 1/4 zeal super shallow sockets
Koken nut grip sockets prob 1/4 or 3/8 in shallow

from another thread I saw the non zeal is the better extension with more knurling
the spark plug sockets are zeal is better
nut grip don’t come in zeal just non zeal

damn I don’t even want to add up the price of all this 🤣
There are plenty of US sources for Ko Ken. palmac.net, kokenusa.com, Drpd and others. I hope to see KTC and Tone expand their US presence in the near future.
 

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I can remember when Rotring first started producing “regular” pens and pencils, rather than draughting tools. Mid 80’s In think.

The first they produced were an aluminium pen and retractable pencil in the style of their conventional automatic pencils. I bought a set (not cheap at the time) but they were lovely to use.
IMG_0441.jpeg

The 600 range came a little later, and you’re right, they are beautifully made. The originals were German made, and the range included a fountain pen. I didn’t buy one, as I was into more traditional pens at the time, but I regret not doing so as Rotring did a superb job on them, and they became a modern classic.

Rotring was bought out however, and many of their lines were dropped. The range of drawing pens was reduced, many drawing instruments were dropped or cheapened, and the rights to the “Aristo” navigation instruments were also disposed of.

The 600 series continued though, along with it’s similarly numbered relatives. The pens and pencils today are produced in Japan (which I suppose gets us back on topic) and I have to admit they are still of very decent quality.

I generally use a pair of 600 series ballpoints at work (with Schneider “slider “ refills).
IMG_0442.jpeg

I have the Rotring 600 in aluminium, it's a great pen/tool 👍
 

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“Restored” Truecraft brand SAE ratcheting wrenches, made in Japan:

IMG_0087.jpeg

These were tricky to find in a complete set, but a little work and these are like new again. I’d assume they have date codes on them, with most being from the mid-90’s.

Love the heavy duty feel of these.
I own a set of these. Bought mine new around 40 years ago, the best I can remember.
 
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