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Milwaukee are probably the best value of current production.

Malco if you can find any. I wish I had ponied up during the brief window they were produced.

Wish granted-

and cheaper then their all time high,
$47 for the 7" curved jaw LP7WS


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I like the old Nebraska made Petersens myself. eBay or estate sales
I have collected over 200 pair of the Petersen Vise-Grips from Dewitt Nebraska. I am not going to resist buy more if the price is good. I have used my Petersen Vise-Grips, they are not dust collectors, so much. So, I am more than a little biased. I have about 30 more
PVG to clean up and put away.
 

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Looks like there might still be some USA made Malco Eagle Grips for sale if anyone is still looking for these very nice but expensive locking pliers...

USA Tool Depot website:
HJE website:
Malco website: https://www.eaglegripusa.com/product_cat/locking-pliers/

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I have collected over 200 pair of the Petersen Vise-Grips from Dewitt Nebraska. I am not going to resist buy more if the price is good. I have used my Petersen Vise-Grips, they are not dust collectors, so much. So, I am more than a little biased. I have about 30 more
PVG to clean up and put away.
Just curious…do you have a display of vise grips? Not all but some of the best up on a board somewhere?
I have about 4... Users all. The Asian copycat ones are amazingly close in appearance to nearsighted guys like me. I bought a #10 one by mistake at a sale for a couple of bucks and tried it out. Not even close to the classics. I gave it away.
 

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Just curious…do you have a display of vise grips? Not all but some of the best up on a board somewhere?
I have about 4... Users all. The Asian copycat ones are amazingly close in appearance to nearsighted guys like me. I bought a #10 one by mistake at a sale for a couple of bucks and tried it out. Not even close to the classics. I gave it away.
I have many of my VG laid out in toolbox drawers. I prefer to not have a board display. There are many more pairs than I have pictured here. It is not expensive to buy real PETERSEN locking pliers. I suppose this is a side hobby, for me. Every time I bring another Petersen home, I think, good job, you saved another.
BTW, every VG that follows me home gets an ultrasonic bath then a light spray of WD40.
 

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Bought Malcos on Amazon and got used Milwaukees. Really disappointed cause they were even shipped overseas!

I'd definitely be taking advantage of Amazon's return policy.

I'd been trying most every brand of locking pliers but Irwin's ever since they took the Vise Grip brand to China, having bought more than a few Snap-on (Grip-on) Milwaukee, Knipex, etc, including paying a premium for NOS USA Vise Grips, and not unlike many others here at GJ have been guilty of bashing the brand every chance I got, but the Project Farm locking pliers test video snapped me right out me of that.

Malcos definitely won that PF testing BUT at a pretty steep price comparatively and surprisingly the Irwins (and Craftsmans too, for that matter) locking pliers pretty easily outperformed other brands that cost more incl Williams, Milwaukee, Grip on, Knipex, etc, in almost every round of that test, and the Craftsmans were right there in the mix too.
 

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I have a few locking pliers. Most recently I have been using these to hold (mostly small) parts as I polish and buff them to remove rust.

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My oldest locking pliers are the craftsman (black) that auto-adjust. These are old, are perfectly aligned, and have always worked well. I have never attempted to really wrench something hard to move with these but for my average usage these have worked fine.

For small things I have the Pittsburgh Mini Locking Pliers Set (3-piece) . These are all roughly 4" or 5" in total length. The fit and finish is blah. The long nose pliers the bottom jaw is larger than the top jaw and they do not naturally align but can be easily aligned if you desire. The other two mostly align well. The finish is mat, not polished. A set of three for $7 and very usable. OK, worth it. Not great, but usable.


Notice that on the long nose the natural jaw position mis-aligns by maybe 30%, but it looks worse because the top is smaller than the bottom so it still only hangs over the edge by about 20%. I would buy these again if I lost my set given the size and functionality; but I would gladly pay more if Malco made a set like these.

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Tekton sells a set of Long Nose Locking Pliers (6" and 9") for $27. These are pretty shiny for a mat finish and are made of CR-MO. The tightening lug has a hole for ease of tightening. These work really well and the fit and finish are spot on with perfect natural jaw alignment. These are made in Taiwan. The release is very easy to use. For me these are the best value for the money. I have only tried their long nose locking pliers, but these two are spot on. If you want a set of these, just buy them. Best bang for the buck.


Not sure what the "yellow-ish" color is in the photo, probably a reflection. These are oddly shiny for what appears to be a mat finish.

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I own two USA made Malco Eagly Grip Jaw Locking Pliers LP10WC (10" curved jaw with wire cutter) and LP7R (7" straight jaw with no wire cutter). I have never tried the wire cutter but am skeptical; but not curious enough to go find some wire to cut and test them. These are roughly $40 each and boy oh boy are these nice. Highly polished shiny chrome (over-kill), made in USA, you can use a Hex Key to increase the clamp force, jaw alignment is perfect. If you think you will ever need or want locking pliers, these are the best I have used, but they cost more. They release more easily than the others. The release is a press down (or squeeze) as opposed to pull up like the others I have. I wish they sold smaller long nose versions.

To be clear, these are USA made and are available now on Amazon for a good price. Just go buy some. I thought that they closed the plant, but these are still available.


I was expecting perfection for the Knipex because I own other fabulous Knipex tools. Although these work well, they were my biggest disappointment based on fit/finish expectations. The bad first, and then the good. My first set of 41 34 165 6-1/4" narrow jaw nickel plated locking pliers had numerous serious defects in the lower jaw that looked to be numerous rust spots and the jaws did not naturally align. I returned them and the next one has a flawless appearance, a very mat plating, but the jaws again do not align. I just had very high expectations given my other flawless Knipex tools. As with the Harbor Freight (Pitsburgh), I can easily align the jaws, and the upper and lower jaws can mesh perfectly. These lock-up tight, hold well, and release very easily. If the jaws naturally aligned these would be my favorite for the money. This is an almost identical size to the smaller Tekton, but I think that the jaw shape on the Knipex is “rounder” and the release is a bit easier. So the knipex feels more solid, but the misaligned jaws annoy me, it is something I simply need to learn to adjust if I think it mattes. As of today, I see a price of 43% off on the Knipex for a total price of $23 on Amazon, which feels like a great deal.


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So two out of two had misaligned jaws that could be brought back into alignment. Both worked well and one had a decent finish.


I am curious about the versions made in Spain (Crescent is one, but not the only one).
 

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This manufacturer's product was getting favorable comments here:

Scangrip / Scangrip A/S, Rytterhaven 9, DKK-5700 Svendborg, Denmark / https://www.scangrip.com/ / est. 1906 acquired by Hultafors Group 2021 / manufacturer of locking pliers up to 2021 /

@Monte found a pair of Scangrip pliers re-badged "Turnus"

Not sure who you can get those from currently.

I've never used the Milwaukee.

Harry Epstein is selling the Malco Eagle Grip for $29.99 now. You're not going to find better in a "conventional" type of "locking plier".
 
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Petersen are my favorites, period. I consider Eagle Grips to still be Petersen, even though they were a Malco product. Made by many of the same people in the same NE plant.

Crescent aren't bad, but I've found their plating fragile.

Bremen from Harbor Freight are almost as good as Petersen.

I keep hearing the various Grip-On rebrands are great, and will order a pair from my CAT dealer.


Every Irwin pliers I've seen are hot garbage. The Vise Grips I have from them are junk.
 
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Best
(ergo lever)- Facom
(traditional lever)- Eagle Grip

Best per dollar
(ergo) - Grip-On
(traditional)- Milwaukee or Bremen

Everything else is just a compromise of the above
 

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I did a comparo a while back
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Of that group, the Pittsburgh is cheap but better than than the money, but they're not mission critical tools.

The Milwaukee was wonky and disappointing.

The vintage Peterson was really nice, but for what people want for used ones (and especially NOS), I'd just spring for Malco.

The Malco was manifestly a nice tool. Like, damn... Crazy money if you need a lot of them, but amazing. The only thing I'd change is a 1/4" square to tighten things down (like the Bremen...) instead of a 1/4" hex. A 1/4" square drive would be a lot more convenient.

The Bremens were really nice and easily the best value for money. They're a huge jump up from the Pittsburgh.
 

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I did a comparo a while back
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Of that group, the Pittsburgh is cheap but better than than the money, but they're not mission critical tools.

The Milwaukee was wonky and disappointing.

The vintage Peterson was really nice, but for what people want for used ones (and especially NOS), I'd just spring for Malco.

The Malco was manifestly a nice tool. Like, damn... Crazy money if you need a lot of them, but amazing. The only thing I'd change is a 1/4" square to tighten things down (like the Bremen...) instead of a 1/4" hex. A 1/4" square drive would be a lot more convenient.

The Bremens were really nice and easily the best value for money. They're a huge jump up from the Pittsburgh.

What wonky/disappointing issues did you have with the Milwaukee?
 

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Has anyone mentioned Petersen yet? (I keed, I keed).
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It is funny how much nicer they are.

It would be super interesting to have some manufacturing engineer go through just how the materials and process are different between now and then.
 
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My locking pliers are from Vise-Grip, Grip-on, Proto, CH Hanson and Williams. To be honest, the Vise-Grips are fine.

I wonder if Vise-Grip went through some growing pains when Irwin first outsourced them to China. Otherwise, I don't understand why so many people poo-poo them. I'm not claiming they're the top dog, just that when I reach for a pair, I don't actually find myself caring much which brand I choose.

I like auto-locking pliers too. I probably reach for those whenever they're an option.

  • Proto's pliers are better, but not worth the premium.
  • Grip on are the newest one I've tried, they seem about the same as Proto. I don't think I'd buy those again except if I spot a deal.
  • Williams are on-par with Vise-grip - I actually use mine less because they're the standard design whereas most of my Vise-grip are auto-locking.
  • CH Hanson seems really nice. I only have a couple of those though, picked up on clearance somewhere. They're auto-locking and very robust feeling. I'd buy those again at the right price.
No denying Malco is the best. But if you can buy 3-4 Vise-Grips for the same price, I'd do that (unless you already have lots of locking pliers and want something for special occasions).
 
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Thanks - I'm still trying to learn brevity and less ums, but mainly just fun
You did significantly better than many posters.... I often spend my time annoyed at the little fill-in phrases that do not need to be said. I have spent significant time removing those things from published audio feeds (before they were published). In my case I remove from audio only, would hate to have to do that in Video because I cannot just delete them.

I noticed none with your video, which means that either I was too sleepy, hanging on every word with rapt fascination, or you made very minimal use (as in not sufficiently prevalent that I noticed). The only thing that I noticed was that sometimes the audio was low.

Keep posting content!
 

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You did significantly better than many posters.... I often spend my time annoyed at the little fill-in phrases that do not need to be said. I have spent significant time removing those things from published audio feeds (before they were published). In my case I remove from audio only, would hate to have to do that in Video because I cannot just delete them.

I noticed none with your video, which means that either I was too sleepy, hanging on every word with rapt fascination, or you made very minimal use (as in not sufficiently prevalent that I noticed). The only thing that I noticed was that sometimes the audio was low.

Keep posting content!
I do a lot of public speaking but video is a whole different gig for some reason.

I've done at least 40 more vids since that one, of varying quality - lol. I'm definitely a work in progress :ROFLMAO:
 

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Haven't used that style of Milwaukee w the odd over mold and auto lock
I was referring to the traditional style, which are a solid buy but not much better then the Bremen

I've always hated the over mold /plastic grips on any locking pliers, Irwin has done it in the past

Auto Lock just ***** unless you are gripping the same thickness every time, and even then the spread on the handle is huge
 

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The Tekton ones seem decent for a fair price. Have a few at work. Irwin ones seem to put in decent work. Had to warranty a pair for a co-worker, and replacement not in hand, but the process wasn't terrible.

I've got cheap HF at home. They pretty much only get used for nasty jobs. Pinching hose clamps for removal, or biting onto stuff that turns, but shouldn't (sway bar links for example). Occasionally used to capture flat springs. They're high abuse, low finesse tools 🤣
 

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Auto Lock just ***** unless you are gripping the same thickness every time, and even then the spread on the handle is huge
I have only one auto lock, a rather old craftsman that I don't use much.

I decided to try these for something specific

ARMOR TOOL Locking Pliers - 7" Needle Nose Pliers with Auto Adjust Design & Comfortable Grips - A09300G


Will see how they workout.
 

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Haven't used that style of Milwaukee w the odd over mold and auto lock
I was referring to the traditional style, which are a solid buy but not much better then the Bremen

I've always hated the over mold /plastic grips on any locking pliers, Irwin has done it in the past

Auto Lock just ***** unless you are gripping the same thickness every time, and even then the spread on the handle is huge
Yeah - it seems to be a cool idea that doesn't work well in practice. The LockJaw seemed like an idea that was almost figured out, but are just too fiddly.

In the time since that video the Bremen and Malco pairs have done very well. The vintage pairs live in my travel kit, so they don't really get pulled out for use. I can't remember what I did with the Pittsburgh pair, but they're lurking around for the day when I need something light duty that I don't mind killing/damaging.
 

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Put me in the camp of people who don't understand the hate on Irwins. They might not be made of gold, but everytime I grab a pair it works without fail, No flex, no weird handles, and I've not had any jaw issues.
Now as far as the c-clamp style models, I have a Pittsburgh that is just horrible and flexes and bends each time I grab it. I need to throw it out but can't bring myself to as its the choice to use nearby when welding.
My comparable Irwins are much more solid.

I am interested in checking out the Bremen models after seeing the feedback here. I don't need more regular locking pliers, but I can never have enough of the c-clamp style. If there are Malcos offered for that I'll keep an eye out.
 

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Put me in the camp of people who don't understand the hate on Irwins. They might not be made of gold, but everytime I grab a pair it works without fail, No flex, no weird handles, and I've not had any jaw issues.
Now as far as the c-clamp style models, I have a Pittsburgh that is just horrible and flexes and bends each time I grab it. I need to throw it out but can't bring myself to as its the choice to use nearby when welding.
My comparable Irwins are much more solid.

I am interested in checking out the Bremen models after seeing the feedback here. I don't need more regular locking pliers, but I can never have enough of the c-clamp style. If there are Malcos offered for that I'll keep an eye out.
 

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The Tekton ones seem decent for a fair price.
^ I ordered a pair of those a few years back. Cheap. Not impressed at all. Sent them to @BlakeTheCarGuy a year or two back in a "Secret Santa" package. Not sure what he thought of them.

I have a Pittsburgh that is just horrible and flexes and bends each time I grab it.
^ Absolute garbage. I had some and put those in "Secret Santa" packages as well because I knew Blake was flipping stuff and doing "tradesies" with co-workers.
 
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