Parker 23 Vise - dog removal
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ALLFAST
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Hello Gman,
Have you thoroughly cleaned out the dovetail “track” of all scudge and debris so as to see what exactly lies beneath?
Once at this stage, DON’T FORCE anything, but try to gently tap it out ( towards you as you view these pictures) with a hardwood drift, etc.
The retaining pin might be broken off below the surface ( missing?) or the top 1/3 of the hole could be filled with dirt? Try poking a fine piece of wire or a thin pick into the flat center area of the channel.
Obviously investigate what’s going on and report back for guidance if need be. Check for any cracked or chunked out areas in the base right there as well.
Keep us updated!
Shawn
Have you thoroughly cleaned out the dovetail “track” of all scudge and debris so as to see what exactly lies beneath?
Once at this stage, DON’T FORCE anything, but try to gently tap it out ( towards you as you view these pictures) with a hardwood drift, etc.
The retaining pin might be broken off below the surface ( missing?) or the top 1/3 of the hole could be filled with dirt? Try poking a fine piece of wire or a thin pick into the flat center area of the channel.
Obviously investigate what’s going on and report back for guidance if need be. Check for any cracked or chunked out areas in the base right there as well.
Keep us updated!
Shawn
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Great ad’vise’. Tx! Yes cleaned and no pin. Examined under the vise. No pin and no hole for a pin!
There is a ‘wedge’ in the channel that I have circled in red in the pic below.
I’ll try to tap the dog with a hardwood dowel as you mentioned.
There is a ‘wedge’ in the channel that I have circled in red in the pic below.
I’ll try to tap the dog with a hardwood dowel as you mentioned.
ALLFAST
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Have you blasted the surfaces inside of the dovetail channel free of all debris with brakeklean, etc?
Now the obvious question is, does this vise presently work in a satisfactory manner?
The last five vintage vises I’ve dealt with I’ve purposely never removed the “nut” which is what you’re calling the dog…if it doesn’t need to come out, or shimming to finesse the fitment of the dynamic jaw/slide, what is your worry?
You don’t need to disassemble it, just clean around it, and clean the thread bore as it sits.
If it isn’t broken, you don’t necessarily need to fix it !
I may have entirely missed the backstory of this vise, and if so, I’m sorry to sound presumptuous here. Is it broken or fine?
Thank you for the update!
Shawn
Now the obvious question is, does this vise presently work in a satisfactory manner?
The last five vintage vises I’ve dealt with I’ve purposely never removed the “nut” which is what you’re calling the dog…if it doesn’t need to come out, or shimming to finesse the fitment of the dynamic jaw/slide, what is your worry?
You don’t need to disassemble it, just clean around it, and clean the thread bore as it sits.
If it isn’t broken, you don’t necessarily need to fix it !
I may have entirely missed the backstory of this vise, and if so, I’m sorry to sound presumptuous here. Is it broken or fine?
Thank you for the update!
Shawn
ALLFAST
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Both vises are the same model….cleaned and painted around the nut/dovetail nut. Zero issues.
I merely tapped the original retaining pins “home” to ensure they were fully seated. Never removed them. The gray one is the patchy mess of before pictures.
I merely tapped the original retaining pins “home” to ensure they were fully seated. Never removed them. The gray one is the patchy mess of before pictures.
ALLFAST
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Apparently my GJ link isn’t allowing me to add pictures ATM. If three different sets of the same pictures magically show up, I’ve had connectivity issues.
ALLFAST
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Just reread your post. You can try and very gently tap on what appears to be that wedge shaped formation of metal.
If you have no luck, you can trim some very thin pieces of shim stock (or a flattened down 3/8” common copper pipe hanger/clamp.
You can fit a sliver of stock into the spaces to the left/right of the nut. As long as the final pieces don’t interrupt with the interaction of the slide as it goes back and forth, you’re good.
It doesn’t need to be pretty, but by all means make it as professional in nature as possible. If you even eliminate a smidgen of play on each side you’re probably good to go-it’s not rocket science; down and dirty will suffice!
Please post pictures of your dynamic jaw and lead screw. Are they both sound? Is your screw retention collar sufficiently tight against the inside of the pocket where it rests? Any stripped threads on the set screw? A big gap, slop? Etc?
If you have no luck, you can trim some very thin pieces of shim stock (or a flattened down 3/8” common copper pipe hanger/clamp.
You can fit a sliver of stock into the spaces to the left/right of the nut. As long as the final pieces don’t interrupt with the interaction of the slide as it goes back and forth, you’re good.
It doesn’t need to be pretty, but by all means make it as professional in nature as possible. If you even eliminate a smidgen of play on each side you’re probably good to go-it’s not rocket science; down and dirty will suffice!
Please post pictures of your dynamic jaw and lead screw. Are they both sound? Is your screw retention collar sufficiently tight against the inside of the pocket where it rests? Any stripped threads on the set screw? A big gap, slop? Etc?
ALLFAST
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Rey very sound advise! As you suggest I’m not going to ‘fix’ it.
Thanks much all. Love these old tools.
ALLFAST
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My pleasure. Please post some more pictures of this project 