genog
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It never stops disgusting me when I hear Lowball (blanks) do exactly that!
....then Brag about it!
That workbench gives me the Willies!
Yuck!
Once again, congratulations!
Your Parker looks absolutely GREAT
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....then Brag about it!
That workbench gives me the Willies!
Yuck!
Once again, congratulations!
Your Parker looks absolutely GREAT
Beerhippie
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^I might have just taken a chainsaw to the bench....
justintendo
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justintendo
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LOL, I got a 3 for, sucked Dad into my lunacy's, in his boot ready to be dropped off this week.
Wanted a 6" and been looking for a Quick release (any size) as well, this fulfils both needs.
47kg/104 lb
An excellent addition to hit number 50
Wanted a 6" and been looking for a Quick release (any size) as well, this fulfils both needs.
47kg/104 lb
An excellent addition to hit number 50
ricleh
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Just finished up a restoration of a Wilton baby bullet and a Pow-r-Arm Jr. workholder. Painted Rustoleum Verde Green. Here are a few pictures of the parts disassembled and the final result.
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ricleh
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Last week I saw the price drop 75% on the Yost 204 Machinist vise on Amazon. Ended up being $98 shipped!
Specs are Ductile iron, 4 jaws, 6.5 " opening and 50lbs.
I've have used a Ancient Yost 4 Machinist vise for over 30 years at the machine shop I work at so I'm glad to have it in the collection.
Taiwanese or not these are Overbuilt Lifetime Bench Vises especially for a general homeowner use.
I use the Honey app to track and alert stuff online I am interested in. Tooling mostly. Had this Yost set up on there to send me an alert since I saw these slowy coming off the $399 they were usually listed at during spring.
Specs are Ductile iron, 4 jaws, 6.5 " opening and 50lbs.
I've have used a Ancient Yost 4 Machinist vise for over 30 years at the machine shop I work at so I'm glad to have it in the collection.
Taiwanese or not these are Overbuilt Lifetime Bench Vises especially for a general homeowner use.
I use the Honey app to track and alert stuff online I am interested in. Tooling mostly. Had this Yost set up on there to send me an alert since I saw these slowy coming off the $399 they were usually listed at during spring.
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Beerhippie
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Let's play Name That Vise!
Picked this up today for $40:
No markings I can see anywhere.
Looks like it mounts via a T-bolt through the bench--or it's missing the base part.
Screw is fixed to the static jaw, nut turns in the shaft of the dynamic.
Jaws are 3", pads cast/forged in, opening about 5".
What is it?
Picked this up today for $40:
No markings I can see anywhere.
Looks like it mounts via a T-bolt through the bench--or it's missing the base part.
Screw is fixed to the static jaw, nut turns in the shaft of the dynamic.
Jaws are 3", pads cast/forged in, opening about 5".
What is it?
RTM
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Think there is already one in this thread. The mounting base has been talked about as it's rather unique. Try poking about with some choice words (no, not the ones you use when a wrench slips)Let's play Name That Vise!
Picked this up today for $40:
No markings I can see anywhere.
Looks like it mounts via a T-bolt through the bench--or it's missing the base part.
What is it?
Beerhippie
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Taking the Mystery Vise down further, I found a nice surprise:
Bronze/brass thrust bearing!
Total weight, including rust and paint, is 26 lb. Feels heavier.
Bronze/brass thrust bearing!
Total weight, including rust and paint, is 26 lb. Feels heavier.
Beerhippie
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RTM
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Slot mount
About one and a half pages down this result came up.
The VISES of Garage Journal
VA and Dave, That AS is a 62C 3 1/2" I recognized it as it is one of my everyday users.
www.garagejournal.com
Unfortunately, the pic links are dead, so no pix, by the responses below it may be a help.
The other thing you can try us take the post number, go back into the vise spreadsheet, and see what it is linked to.
No time to poke further, need to walk the dogs before dark.
Beerhippie
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Yeah, that Miller Falls vise had me going for a bit, but that is a reverse-jaw vise--rear jaw is dynamic, front static. Mine just has the screw and nut backwards, but the jaws in the usual places.
I'll see what I can find on other Millers Falls vises....
I'll see what I can find on other Millers Falls vises....
Beerhippie
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I'm striking out. I've searched "T-slot mount", "fixed screw", "slot mount", etc, no luck.
On to Google where the AI can tell me it's a saw set....
On to Google where the AI can tell me it's a saw set....
Beerhippie
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OK, my eyes are melting from looking at thousands of pictures of "vintage" or "antique" vises on the interwebby.
Nothing that even comes close.
This vise is apparently unique.
What interests me is that it's kind of backwards--not reverse-jaw, but reverse screw.
The nut mounts here:
on the "column" which is attached to the handle (making for a nicely covered screw),
and the screw is fixed in the fixed (back) jaw:
The slide runs in a dove-tail-like mount within the fixed jaw.
I can't find any vise with any of these features....
Nothing that even comes close.
This vise is apparently unique.
What interests me is that it's kind of backwards--not reverse-jaw, but reverse screw.
The nut mounts here:
on the "column" which is attached to the handle (making for a nicely covered screw),
and the screw is fixed in the fixed (back) jaw:
The slide runs in a dove-tail-like mount within the fixed jaw.
I can't find any vise with any of these features....
RTM
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Damn, missed that detail the first time. I saw a vise with a slot like yours in the base, and now can't find it again to cross reference into the spreadsheet.
Too bleary eyed to look further, and I've got an early flea market call tomorrow, so gotta start packing
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Beerhippie
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@bmwrd0 suggested my mystery vise looked to be Polish. After another ten minutes of looking at hundreds of pictures of Polish vises... nope.
Several of those do have a similar-shaped slide, but the screw rides inside the slide and is in the usual configuration--fixed nut, turning screw. Most of them were also reverse-jaw.
I'll get it into the electrolysis vat tomorrow. Maybe some markings will miraculously emerge from under the many decades of rust, dirt and paint.
Several of those do have a similar-shaped slide, but the screw rides inside the slide and is in the usual configuration--fixed nut, turning screw. Most of them were also reverse-jaw.
I'll get it into the electrolysis vat tomorrow. Maybe some markings will miraculously emerge from under the many decades of rust, dirt and paint.
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ALLFAST
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Great work! Did you get your tetanus shot updated before you came back ?!A couple weeks ago I decided to look for a replacement for my Prentiss 524 because I had grown tired of the worn jaws slipping on parts. Vise has been in the family for some 50 years at a minimum. About a week ago I find a Charles Parker 974 1/2 at a estate sale and I thought it would do.
I asked how much the vise was and the estate sale person in charge said he didn't think I could remove it (the workbench was a mess) and said if I could remove it, he'd want $15 so I asked him if he would take $7.50.
(Just kidding about the $7.50)
I shopped for other stuff and went to pay for them and told the guy I'd give him $20 for the vise but needed to pick it up on Saturday when I had tools with me and wasn't working. (I went to the sale on my lunch hour, it was only a 15 minute drive.) Person in charge agreed.
I had the foresight to bring a 5 gallon bucket with me on Saturday because a drawer directly beneath the vise was so full of **** that I didn't have access to a square recess which would allow me access to the vise's carriage bolt nuts. I ended up filling the 5 gallon bucket.
It took me less that 30 minutes to remove the vise and then I just dumped the five gallon bucket on the floor.
Took the vise home and stripped the paint and got it mounted. I'm very happy it came with the a Parker wrench that the handle isn't bent because bent handles annoy me.
This photo is in the beginning of the removal process after I took the slide assembly to my car.
Photo below is vise as bought.
Cleaned vise next to Prentiss:
Vise installed:
Also... Post 13 in this thread mentioned. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-vise-history-thread.387740/
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Beerhippie
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That's got to be a close relative!
The main difference is the screw on that J.H. Lewis is attached to the handle, whereas mine has the nut attached to the handle and the screw fixed in the rear jaw housing.
But otherwise, yeah, pretty similar--the closest yet!
Wish mine were that purty....
The main difference is the screw on that J.H. Lewis is attached to the handle, whereas mine has the nut attached to the handle and the screw fixed in the rear jaw housing.
But otherwise, yeah, pretty similar--the closest yet!
Wish mine were that purty....
Beerhippie
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I've stolen the pictures for posterity.
Forgive me, for I have sinned....
Forgive me, for I have sinned....
The Auction I Linked and the Picture I posted is his 2nd patented design.
You have Joseph H Lewis's First patented Vise My Guy. Take Note of Figure 6 Item K spindle.
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Beerhippie
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I think we found it! Y'all rule!
https://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=65097&id=12903
Now to figure out how to see the entire patent.... But the one picture definitely shows the odd screw/nut arrangement on mine.
Damn--new oldest vise in the shop--by about sixty years.
https://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=65097&id=12903
Now to figure out how to see the entire patent.... But the one picture definitely shows the odd screw/nut arrangement on mine.
Damn--new oldest vise in the shop--by about sixty years.
Beerhippie
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Beerhippie
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I'm gonna have to re-think my approach to restoring a possibly 160-year-old vise...
Shiftless
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I concur 100%
Beerhippie
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So y'all reckon it was worth the $40 I spent on it?
What ***** here is that I need a vise I can mount on a pedestal for use outside... this one ain't it.
What ***** here is that I need a vise I can mount on a pedestal for use outside... this one ain't it.
Yeah you did fine.
Your Next outdoor vise should be this in the link below. These are Made for Palmgren by Barbero in Argentina. These are Malleable Iron and its a $300 vise being sold at clearance for $80 shipped. Its 75lbs and Babero has been ,and still is a respected 80yr old Vise manufacturer in Argentina . This is absolutely the best deal in Actual real deal HD Non Chinese vises right now. If you don't like a 6" vise they have a 4.5" 5" 6" and a 8" vise for sale on their ebay page. Careful.. You may just buy every size they have for sale right now. These are being cleared out because they are going with a Vise maker in India for this style of British pattern engineers vise since they buy their new Ductile Iron European design from them. my pic is below the link.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3353551778...M476CJ&hash=item4e14b9eb99:g:j9cAAOSwWlxmIS5k
Your Next outdoor vise should be this in the link below. These are Made for Palmgren by Barbero in Argentina. These are Malleable Iron and its a $300 vise being sold at clearance for $80 shipped. Its 75lbs and Babero has been ,and still is a respected 80yr old Vise manufacturer in Argentina . This is absolutely the best deal in Actual real deal HD Non Chinese vises right now. If you don't like a 6" vise they have a 4.5" 5" 6" and a 8" vise for sale on their ebay page. Careful.. You may just buy every size they have for sale right now. These are being cleared out because they are going with a Vise maker in India for this style of British pattern engineers vise since they buy their new Ductile Iron European design from them. my pic is below the link.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3353551778...M476CJ&hash=item4e14b9eb99:g:j9cAAOSwWlxmIS5k
Outlawmws
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Great score Timm!
I'm on the fence about the doing a full restore, most of that is bare metal rust an I despise rust left a "patina" that wasn't part of the original finish. (ink a browned musket)
I strongly suspect NONE of the paint you see is original if a period ad could be found, it might give a hint.
Assuming that to be true, I'd strip and go with BLO, and you ain't finding the original finish unless it was japanned, then you could emulate.
I'm on the fence about the doing a full restore, most of that is bare metal rust an I despise rust left a "patina" that wasn't part of the original finish. (ink a browned musket)
I strongly suspect NONE of the paint you see is original if a period ad could be found, it might give a hint.
Assuming that to be true, I'd strip and go with BLO, and you ain't finding the original finish unless it was japanned, then you could emulate.
Outlawmws
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Big score of Wilton Powerarm Juniors today!:
I’ve been away from the Garage Journal for a good while, but I did a thing today and I’m thinking I may have randomly “hooked a lunker” and could use the info from this groups wisdom on next steps.
I found a Chas. Parker 474 swivel unit in very good condition and brought it home today. It appears not have any visible damage. Tomorrow I will gingerly work to get the swivels to operate. The main screw is smooth and easy. Has the original rotating wrenches on both clamping nuts. Appears to be only surface rust as far as I can tell.
Outlaw: if you are still looking for one of these, send me a note.
I found a Chas. Parker 474 swivel unit in very good condition and brought it home today. It appears not have any visible damage. Tomorrow I will gingerly work to get the swivels to operate. The main screw is smooth and easy. Has the original rotating wrenches on both clamping nuts. Appears to be only surface rust as far as I can tell.
Outlaw: if you are still looking for one of these, send me a note.
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Shiftless
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Parker 474… 
Truly drool worthy
Truly drool worthy
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It was really just dumb luck and my persistent pathological need to keep shopping for new tools that put me there. The guy was practically in my back-yard. Very pleasant guy. Honestly neither us really knew what we were looking at till I got it home and started looking around for info. I’m beginning to think I may have uncovered a unicorn.Parker 474…
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jpmmilner:
As outlaw said, that 474 is not exactly a unicorn, but finding one in that good of a condition and complete with the wrenches deserves a “you ****”. The only one I have ever seen in the wild was in poor condition, missing both wrenches and was priced at nearly $500. Needless to say, I didn’t buy it.
As outlaw said, that 474 is not exactly a unicorn, but finding one in that good of a condition and complete with the wrenches deserves a “you ****”. The only one I have ever seen in the wild was in poor condition, missing both wrenches and was priced at nearly $500. Needless to say, I didn’t buy it.
Beerhippie
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I concur--dirt and red rust are definitely NOT patina!
I'll start with a mild wash-down with very hot brewery water--185F--and some dish soap to remove the barn dirt. Some 4-0 steel wool to remove the red rust from the working parts, and then reconsider where to go from there.
Electrolysis is out, as it will remove the 160-odd years of hard, black oxidation. I want to keep that.
@deezil : I'm off to take a look at that 4.5" model. It would be the first new vise for the shop!
Beerhippie
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Well, a 5" Made-In-Argentina Palmgren is on the way! For $60 US, I'm thinking I paid the shipping on a brand new, free vise!
One of my local "honey holes" has a crappy-condition Wilton Shop Chief for more than twice that price, so I'd struggle to find a decent used vise for that. The Joseph H Lewis was an amazing flyer for our local pricing!
BTW: @Outlawmws : The Power Arm haul is suckworthy!
One of my local "honey holes" has a crappy-condition Wilton Shop Chief for more than twice that price, so I'd struggle to find a decent used vise for that. The Joseph H Lewis was an amazing flyer for our local pricing!
BTW: @Outlawmws : The Power Arm haul is suckworthy!