Does anyone have 1/2" on 24" OC Trusses? I need to see some pictures of how it looks. I have decided on sheetrock instead of osb. But money is tight and I can save $50 on 1/2 instead of 5/8 and not to mention the 1/2 will weigh much less. Any thoughts.
1/2" Sheetrock on 24" OC Truss
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MrMark
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It won't work. It will sag. Against international sheet rock laws.
international sheet rock laws?
It may sag, it may not. But 1/2" on everything is pretty standard these days, except fire rated walls. 24" trusses with 1/2" is common. The proper installation and screw patterns can make or break the longevity of the finish.
For only $50 total difference, go 5/8" and move on to worrying about something different. Maybe if it saved like $500 I would think more about it..
Although the inside of my house is 24"oc scissor trusses with 1/2" and it isn't sagging yet.
Crusty Nut
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It won't sag and will work just fine. Just does not meet fire code which requires 5/8"
metal1313
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id just go with 5/8s to be sure, 5/8s is much stiffer
Gary S
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1/2" on 24" centers has worked on my house for 60 years with no sagging yet, and that is with 15" of insulation on top of the sheetrock.
Full Size 66
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I believe 5/8" is fire code everywhere. So if your doing anything that will be inspected or sold in the future you might want to do the little extra. My house has an addition from the mid sixties and they used 1/2" on 24 oc studs. It does show slightly and it seems noisy, not as soild....
Busted_Knuckles
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They sell a special 1/2" rigid sheet rock just for this purpose, Ive seen it at my local Menard's, its that common, its intended for 24" centers. Although I admit seeing it, I didn't not notice the "up swing" on cost, and the lousy SOB's don't have a "website" with all the stores products, just the sale papers.
fflintstone
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I used 1/2" in my house and regret it. I wish I would have spent the extra bucks for 5/8”.
rasit
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Haven't heard from anybody saying they hung it the garage on 24" centers. If you are going to heat and cool the garage you might stand a chance that it will only sag a little, but if you are leaving it to the elements it's going to look like sh*t. I have to agree 100% with the following:
Go with 5/8" for the few extra bucks and get a one hour fire rating to boot.
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southernfriedcj
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I built 100's of houses with 1/2" drywall on 24" OC trusses. No problems and we have slick finished ceilings.
Justanoldguy
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For only an extra $50 there is no way I would use 1/2".
MrMark
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5/8 green is available all day long. I personally wouldn't use 1/2 inch drywall anywhere in the house. 5/8 gives you a straighter wall and more sound insulation.
I love the house builders that use 1/2 on the ceiling with no problems.
Here's what a real expert has to say at about the 3:40 mark. This is the guy who wrote the book on drywall.
http://www.hianswers.com/wedding/drywall-tips-and-techniques-layout-and-planning.html
I love the house builders that use 1/2 on the ceiling with no problems.
Here's what a real expert has to say at about the 3:40 mark. This is the guy who wrote the book on drywall.
http://www.hianswers.com/wedding/drywall-tips-and-techniques-layout-and-planning.html
Not at the local HD, Lowes, or family-run building supply. Not in-stock, that much I know for sure because I was just at each place pricing out drywall.
MrMark
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Weird. We have it here because I have some in the garage I just bought at HD. There is the yellow now too you might check out. I have seen it at Lowes. I run the green on the lower half of the garage.
It's clear that 5/8" is going to give you a stiffer end result on 24" centers. But the expert you link us to says, and I quote:
"If it were 24" on center, I might want to consider maybe a thicker drywall like 5/8", because that is less likely to sag..."
The way he words it, with "might" and "maybe" he sounds a lot less emphatic about it than some others in here, and as you say, he's the expert!
You are also in SoCal, which has everything. I'm in western Mass, which has nothing.
If the 5/8 green had been available to me in-stock, I would have grabbed it for sure. I use 5/8 whenever possible, although it is a pain in the ballz since it's so much heavier. I often have no help, and getting full sheets of that in place is tough solo, even with my Godzilla-like strength.
What's the yellow?
"If it were 24" on center, I might want to consider maybe a thicker drywall like 5/8", because that is less likely to sag..."
The way he words it, with "might" and "maybe" he sounds a lot less emphatic about it than some others in here, and as you say, he's the expert!
You are also in SoCal, which has everything. I'm in western Mass, which has nothing.
If the 5/8 green had been available to me in-stock, I would have grabbed it for sure. I use 5/8 whenever possible, although it is a pain in the ballz since it's so much heavier. I often have no help, and getting full sheets of that in place is tough solo, even with my Godzilla-like strength.
What's the yellow?
Justanoldguy
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Sounds like BULL to me ..
MrMark
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Take it whatever way you want. He is the expert for sure. When I hear you "may" want to do something that means I should do it. It's not worth it for me to have a job that cost hundreds or thousands in labor to accomplish turn out like **** because somebody wanted to save a few dollars on sheetrock. Then it gets torn out and a f'ing diasaster results. So much of homebuilding these days is penny wise and pound foolish. The builders cheap out on the dumbest stuff to save a nickle here and there and deliver a **** product that doesn't rear it's ugly head until years down the road. Most are not anywhere savy enough to know any better. I see it all the time around here and it's sickening. I see houses that builders don't even put plywood on to save a few bucks. Then they stucco over the studs and the shear wall (where the plywood does go) and have a bump out. I see ridiculous stuff all the time. I don't believe I've EVER seen a window or door installed correctly.
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rwhite692
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DO NOT go 1/2" on a ceiling on 24" centers. you will regret it. Wait another month or whatever, and save up the extra 50 clams.
gotta56forme
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To the original poster: I bought all my sheetrock this past May through a company here called Kent Gypsum (www.kentgypsum.com). I was originally going to get 5/8" for my ceiling of my garage. The guy I worked with over the phone told me about the option of 1/2" ceiling grade (my characterization) sheetrock which I ended up opting for. It's a little heavier per sheet vs. regular 1/2" sheetrock. I'm glad I did as I could use some of the cut offs from the ceiling on the walls. I decided to go through a sheetrock company for a few reasons. They only sell locally made sheetrock; had 54"x12' sheets that I needed (home centers don't), and their delivery price was very competitive. How was I going to get 12' sheets home? In the end, I don't think I paid much more than what I would have gotten at a home center. If I had only worked with 4'x8' sheets, then perhaps the home center would have won out.
Have a look in your yellow pages for a sheetrock/drywall supply company in your area and chat with them.
Scott/Gotta56forme
Have a look in your yellow pages for a sheetrock/drywall supply company in your area and chat with them.
Scott/Gotta56forme
caper150
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Mines been up almost two years no problems yet, not a great pic, but I have never took a pic of the ceiling.
haugy
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I'm in this boat too, except it's not the cost I'm bickering over.
It's the weight. I've got people telling me my 5' OC trusses won't hold the 2x4's and 5/8" drywall weight. So I'm trying to calculate the weight difference between 1/2" and 5/8". And then of course, worry about sagging too.
It's the weight. I've got people telling me my 5' OC trusses won't hold the 2x4's and 5/8" drywall weight. So I'm trying to calculate the weight difference between 1/2" and 5/8". And then of course, worry about sagging too.
nate379
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IMO I would use 5/8" all throughout, ceiling, walls, etc. It's like $2.00 more a sheet, but worth it.
I didn't think they sold green board anymore? It is pretty much pointless since paint will seal reg drywall just as well as the green stuff... .if the water is getting through the paint, the wall is going to need to come down to repair anyhow.
I didn't think they sold green board anymore? It is pretty much pointless since paint will seal reg drywall just as well as the green stuff... .if the water is getting through the paint, the wall is going to need to come down to repair anyhow.
nate379
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IMO I would use 5/8" all throughout, ceiling, walls, etc. It's like $2.00 more a sheet, but worth it. Yeah it's heavy, but so is 1/2". The last stuff I used was 4.5ftx12ft long and that was a pain to move around on my own!
I didn't think they sold green board anymore? My bathrooms are just normal drywall which is standard for around here from what I have seen.
I didn't think they sold green board anymore? My bathrooms are just normal drywall which is standard for around here from what I have seen.
rockchucker
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If you think 1/2" won't sag on a 24" OC Lid then you are delusional. Yes it is heavy. Try the 12' Sheets of it. About 1.5 times as heavy as the 8' Sheets. =) well worth the struggle of getting it up there. Rent a Spider lift if you don't have any help. One guy can hang 12' Sheets. Not with ease by any means but you just have to work smarter not harder.
ONLY Greenboard in Bathrooms or moist areas. I will even use Greenboard in the Utility Room and Mud Room areas. I mean seriously what is a couple of bucks?
Sorry for the bluntness.
5/8" ONLY on the lid.
Just my .o2
Refer to my sig.
ONLY Greenboard in Bathrooms or moist areas. I will even use Greenboard in the Utility Room and Mud Room areas. I mean seriously what is a couple of bucks?
Sorry for the bluntness.
5/8" ONLY on the lid.
Just my .o2
Refer to my sig.
csp
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It's only fire code for attached garages. The wall that adjoins my garage to the house is 5/8" from the floor to the peak of the roof, therefore it covers fire code. I could use 1/2" drywall on the ceiling if I cared to, but I'm not.
As far as prices go, pick up the phone and call drywall suppliers or head to Lowes/Home Depot/Menards/whereever. Prices can vary greatly by region, so what I'm paying in Colorado might mean diddly squat in Minnesota.
I've found that the drywall suppliers price isn't close to what I can find in Home Depot also. It's more expensive for 5/8" at the drywall supplier, but cheaper for 1/2".
nate379
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It is pretty much pointless you use if you are going to paint the walls. I haven't seen green board in stores in a few years. Was told it wasn't made anymore, though that isn't true according to the interweb.
clyder_glider
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I work for USG...the company that invented SHEETROCK...and we have a new product that will likely meet your need for lighter weight ceiling board on 24" oc. It is 30% lighter than regular board and a DREAM to hang. Take a look at the attached for more info:
http://www.usg.com/sheetrock-ultralight-gypsum-panels.html
As for questions on gypsum construction..USG has been writing the "bible" on construction methods since ...well forever. All of the information is online and free. you can find it here:
http://www.usg.com/resource-center/gypsum-construction-handbook.html
Hope this helps and best of luck.
http://www.usg.com/sheetrock-ultralight-gypsum-panels.html
As for questions on gypsum construction..USG has been writing the "bible" on construction methods since ...well forever. All of the information is online and free. you can find it here:
http://www.usg.com/resource-center/gypsum-construction-handbook.html
Hope this helps and best of luck.
Mighty Favog
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So who carries this stuff?
clyder_glider
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You can find the product availability here:
http://www.theweighthasbeenlifted.com/
I believe for now...it is available in the Duluth, MN area...where the poster is from, however it is a regional roll out. Should be able to find it at specialty dealers or Home Depot.
Hope that helps.
http://www.theweighthasbeenlifted.com/
I believe for now...it is available in the Duluth, MN area...where the poster is from, however it is a regional roll out. Should be able to find it at specialty dealers or Home Depot.
Hope that helps.
haugy
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Is this something that is available in TN?
What is the cost comparison to regular 1/2"?
What is the cost comparison to regular 1/2"?
clyder_glider
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The product is rolling out in phases (see link above)...and the map on the link shows you phase 1 and phase 2. I believe that the plan will be to offer it nationwide at some point.
As for the price...it is less than $0.50 per 1/2 8' sheet more than regular board.
Hope that helps.
As for the price...it is less than $0.50 per 1/2 8' sheet more than regular board.
Hope that helps.