PugetDude
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Those look great!Another window and a couple of doors trimmed out with Black Walnut:
Merry Christmas!
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Finallygotit
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Well, since you're asking.......
If it was my car, I would replace all of the hoses with the $390 kit. I'm fairly certain that Nick would not suggest this manufacturer if he didn't believe they had a decent product.
YMMV
Have purchased the Black Walnut from this company in Tacoma: https://www.awi-wa.com/
From Edensaw, obtained a lot of VG Fir for the guest room trim and doors. Speaking of doors, an exploded view of the doors that will be started this January. Raised panel out of Black Walnut all for the master BR. This one will be bi-fold:
Happy New Year!
Andrew S
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While I have no experience with Ferrari hoses, chances are they're built by an OEM with high standards. Since the originals lasted ~25 years, my vote is for a set of genuine hoses. Several decades experience with Porsche and Toyota hoses and I've never seen issues, while I have seen numerous issues with silicone hoses.
Thanks for sharing the behind the scenes on a car most of us won't be lucky enough to own!
gilr
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I spent the last week or so reading your thread and to say I'm impressed would be an understatement! I've been by your place on cruise ships as recently as about 7 years ago and am always amazed at the beauty! About 30 years ago I drove from Seattle with my two kids and wife to Vancouver, BC and on to Victoria Island to see the Butchart Gardens. From there we drove back down to San Francisco along 101 and stopping frequently in the Redwood forests (to the point which my daughter said "Dad, once you've seen one tree, you've seen them all!). We took many ferries along the way and the crossing from Port Angeles was just spectacularly beautiful. You live in one of the most beautiful areas this country has to offer! Would love to visit again in the future. Love the Corvettes and the Porsches too! I'm also a fan of the 55-57 T-Birds too! Would love to drive my Grand Sport or my 61 Austin Healey 3000 there along the "back roads" you write about and photograph here. I wish you and your wife a Happy New Year! Keep on doing what you are doing, I enjoy very much reading about your endeavors!
Gil
Gil
Hi Odis. In response to - An ancillary report from Nick on the cooling system hoses on the 355. Take a read and decide what you would do. Think that "while we are at it" replace them all with silicone hoses. Your thoughts appreciated.
It depends on what your goal is. IF originality is your goal, then rubber hoses like the original hoses would be my suggestion and you likely will get another 20+ years use.
IF it's for long-term use, I looked at the Scuderia site to see the cost on the cooling hose kit for comparison to the alternative kit and when it said "Call for prices" the alternative kit for $390 is likely what I would choose for the long-term option. For me, it would be a huge piece of mind to have them all replaced at this time, especially if it is an engine out process to change them. If you opt to only change the upper and lower hoses, I will question how long the other original Ferrari hoses will last and 25 years seems like a long time already if they are the original hoses.
Consider what you would do if it was for one of your Porches (although they are not water cooled), or one of your Corvettes. You will come up with the answer that is right for you.
By the way, I didn't see the picture of the small straight piece of hose from Scuderia Rampante.
Mike in WI
It depends on what your goal is. IF originality is your goal, then rubber hoses like the original hoses would be my suggestion and you likely will get another 20+ years use.
IF it's for long-term use, I looked at the Scuderia site to see the cost on the cooling hose kit for comparison to the alternative kit and when it said "Call for prices" the alternative kit for $390 is likely what I would choose for the long-term option. For me, it would be a huge piece of mind to have them all replaced at this time, especially if it is an engine out process to change them. If you opt to only change the upper and lower hoses, I will question how long the other original Ferrari hoses will last and 25 years seems like a long time already if they are the original hoses.
Consider what you would do if it was for one of your Porches (although they are not water cooled), or one of your Corvettes. You will come up with the answer that is right for you.
By the way, I didn't see the picture of the small straight piece of hose from Scuderia Rampante.
Mike in WI
Trapps
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Thank you for continuing to share your collection and the adventures had with it!
Your 355 is so good looking.
All the best in 2025!
Your 355 is so good looking.
All the best in 2025!
Thank you. Nick puts lots of effort into the videos he produces. His presentation skills have improved from some of his earlier content and must say, the recent videos are far easier to watch and enjoy.
1.5 hours is a long video. If pressed for time or interest, there is a way to speed up playback.
Thanks for your post and Happy New Yer!
There is little concern about correctness on the cooling hoses and there is a good bit of doubt that a judge on the concours field will have the knowledge or eye to detect “replacement hoses” and by the time the car needs this service again, will bet I won’t know one day from another!
Thanks for your most insightful posts and they are always enjoyed.
Here is that little hose:
Happy New Year!
Yep. Replace them all. The $390 is the least expense…… Labor @4 hrs will far exceed that number. Pay to Play, but since the engine is out, no better time than now to get-er-done!Well, since you're asking.......
If it was my car, I would replace all of the hoses with the $390 kit. I'm fairly certain that Nick would not suggest this manufacturer if he didn't believe they had a decent product.
YMMV
Thanks for your post and Happy New Year!
Appreciate your input and admire your long standing work on cars like these. Personally, hope to never own a Porsche with a water hose… but dare I say; Never say Never!
Think the silicone hoses will serve my lifetime with this car and fixing this car going forward will be up to the guy that will inherit it.
Happy New Year!
SilverJimmy
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Do you need my info for that future inheritance?! I am more than willing to wait but my dream has always been to be the kid in Red Barchetta!
y'sguy
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I am just now finding this thread. Not sure how I missed it. Although I am only up to page 7.
The 57 Bird caught my eye. I have had many encounters with the old TBirds over the years and still own the first one I ever bought in 1967.
The '57 Gunmetal E-Bird is a good one to own! I also noticed it since the license plate had an F, so I thought it might be a supercharged car.
The 57 Bird caught my eye. I have had many encounters with the old TBirds over the years and still own the first one I ever bought in 1967.
The '57 Gunmetal E-Bird is a good one to own! I also noticed it since the license plate had an F, so I thought it might be a supercharged car.
Happy New Year, Gil!
Thanks for your nice note about this thread. Much appreciated!
BC, Alberta, Yukon were assigned to me for a sales territory along with Western Washington. Loved BC and Alberta but more to the point, really loved Vancouver and Victoria…II mean, who would not! Spent about 12 years traveling these Provenances.
Those that have the opportunity to travel in these areas during good weather most always love the time spent in these regions.
Good to know you like some of cars in the collection. We would enjoy seeing either of your cars should you get the opportunity to hit the PNW again.
Thanks again for such a nice note and all the best to you and family in the New Year!
First, let me thank you for taking the time to read this thread and hope you enjoy the content even through some of the less interesting stuff.
Second, appreciate your ability to care for and keep your T-Bird all these years…. So very Rare! My Bird has an interesting story behind it and if interested will tell you about it. You are correct on the rarity of my ‘57. In addition to E-Code, is also 3-speed manual with O/D. By the way, few have mentioned the F on the license plate…..
Hope you continue to enjoy this thread and feel free to comment or question if more info is needed.
Happy New Year to you and family!
If you show the car, go OEM, if not, I think I'd just do silicone. Not even REMOTELY in the same realm, but parts are sparse.....I have a 90 Eclipse and some parts are NLA, so aftermarket is my only choice, some better than others, but let's be honest, I'll never be on the concours!
Absolutely some parts, OEM. When aftermarket parts are held in higher regard, they are the go to parts. Think cam belt tensioners for example, from Hill Engineering, are far superior to OE. But, no one is going to see them. Most of the hoses on this car are covered with other components, so it is really not that big of a deal.
A lot of parts for the Porsches are NLA, but still a ton of stuff can be found….. ya just have to pay the Porsche Tax…..
Thanks for posting and hope you have a great New Year!
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Bob Heine
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Ody, I'm really good at spending money and even better spending others' but I would hate to have one of those impossible to reach hoses give up the ghost a few years from now. I suspect you won't be doing the timing belt in three years or maybe even thirteen years so this might be a good time to replace them all.
Maybe take on a few detailing jobs from the 356 Club members to offset the cost. If you don't have any nasty Garagios to wear to the meetings, maybe pick something up at a local thrift store. Everyone knows 2024 was a tough year, use it to your advantage.
Fred, the length frightened me as well but five minutes in I sat back, relaxed and watched it full-screen on my 32" monitor.
Hi Bob and Happy New Year!
Yes, replacing all of the hoses. Nick told me it would be 4 hours labor…. In for ounce, in for a pound!
Yeah, would have to detail a lot of 356 Porsches to get close to the investment on the 355….
Thanks for your note and thanks too for all of your support of this thread. I’m most appreciative of your time and interest!
Happy that you enjoyed Nick’s video. Much more to come.
Happy New Year!
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Making slow progress on the gifts for friends. Turing out to be a little more complicated than contemplated.
First plan is to make a template to use for final shaping. Used the knee mill to remove material for the “round” areas. An end mill bit and a Forstner bit is used to get the template to shape and followed up with a little time at the band saw with final finish at the oscillating spindle sander. Used double stick tape to attach it to a backer board then just spun the piece around the center to get what was desired.:
The body of the stand is made out of Spalted Birch that was once a tree in the yard. Used brad nails to affix the template to the wood… and I way over nailed that sucker down:
Back at the knee mill to rough out the shape with the Forstner bit and a hole saw similar to when the template was made, just a little difference in the way the material was secured to the work surface:
A trip to the band saw to clean up the cut areas and to make it ready for the router table and the flush cut bit:
After flush cut, removed the template, rounded over most of the edges save for the face, cut them in half and fitted a barometer to the stand:
The base will be curly/flame maple on two of the gifts and will use some natural edged pieces. The other two will not have a natural edge but hope to do something creative there. The stand will also get inlayed into the base by 1/8” and will do that work back at the mill.
Think these will turn out nice and be an interesting/unusual gift.
Will follow up when they are completed.
Happy New Year!
First plan is to make a template to use for final shaping. Used the knee mill to remove material for the “round” areas. An end mill bit and a Forstner bit is used to get the template to shape and followed up with a little time at the band saw with final finish at the oscillating spindle sander. Used double stick tape to attach it to a backer board then just spun the piece around the center to get what was desired.:
The body of the stand is made out of Spalted Birch that was once a tree in the yard. Used brad nails to affix the template to the wood… and I way over nailed that sucker down:
Back at the knee mill to rough out the shape with the Forstner bit and a hole saw similar to when the template was made, just a little difference in the way the material was secured to the work surface:
A trip to the band saw to clean up the cut areas and to make it ready for the router table and the flush cut bit:
After flush cut, removed the template, rounded over most of the edges save for the face, cut them in half and fitted a barometer to the stand:
The base will be curly/flame maple on two of the gifts and will use some natural edged pieces. The other two will not have a natural edge but hope to do something creative there. The stand will also get inlayed into the base by 1/8” and will do that work back at the mill.
Think these will turn out nice and be an interesting/unusual gift.
Will follow up when they are completed.
Happy New Year!
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Toolfool
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A man of many talents.
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Finallygotit
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Beautiful wood. Those will be great gifts. I'm interested to see what the wood will look like after you apply some finish.
Finallygotit
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Nick does a phenomenal job of talking us through the process. The first video kinda scared me due to its length but now I can't wait to see the next installment(s).
Hi Jake and welcome to this thread!
Yeah, lots to see and a lot of rambling on subjects that are sometimes a little lame. The beauty part, one can simply skip to the next seemingly interesting part of the thread.
Thank for your post and my best to you and your family for this new year!
friendly
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The Sun really brings out the perfect gaps in the Thunderbird and underscores the spectacular colors. The white hardtop, wide white walls and rare (Agate) Grey contrast with the bright red interior.
Great photos for a great day. Thanks.
Great photos for a great day. Thanks.
Slow progress being made on the drive train for my ‘55 Speedster.
The fellow doing this work wanted (as I did) to have the transaxle housing plated like when it was new from the factory.
Going to be nice to have the engine and this transaxle back and to put the car on the road. Going to drive it for a while until we make the final decision to go with a full blown restoration.
This car, if not already mentioned, was used by Porsche during the 1955 Frankfurt Motor Show which also showcased the coupe, cabriolet, as well as the 550 Spyder. This heritage should suffice to make sure this Speedster is brought back to life with best efforts in mind.
The fellow doing this work wanted (as I did) to have the transaxle housing plated like when it was new from the factory.
Going to be nice to have the engine and this transaxle back and to put the car on the road. Going to drive it for a while until we make the final decision to go with a full blown restoration.
This car, if not already mentioned, was used by Porsche during the 1955 Frankfurt Motor Show which also showcased the coupe, cabriolet, as well as the 550 Spyder. This heritage should suffice to make sure this Speedster is brought back to life with best efforts in mind.
Two of four completed of the delayed Christmas presents. Turned out fine but the next two will have the barometer stand made out of walnut that was harvested from the yard years ago and will show that process. So far, have learned from the mistakes made and as long as the next two get made in the next week or so, won’t make those mistakes again!
Thanks again to all that follow along and take time to comment.
Thanks again to all that follow along and take time to comment.
Lovely progress and update. I delight in using a mill on wood; it feels like I’m bringing a canon to a battle normally waged with swords (or chisels.) One idle thought from the grandstands: if you had a rotary table you could bypass hogging out the material with a forstner and jump right to an end mill to cut to your outer circumference.
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Finallygotit
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Now that the finish has been applied, the grain on the wood REALLY pops. Beautiful work!
Jayman17
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Curious what finish you used, that grain is amazing! Nice job. 
Lovely progress and update. I delight in using a mill on wood; it feels like I’m bringing a canon to a battle normally waged with swords (or chisels.) One idle thought from the grandstands: if you had a rotary table you could bypass hogging out the material with a forstner and jump right to an end mill to cut to your outer circumference.
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Would be great to have the rotary table. Have an indexing head but it is too heavy for one person to put on the mill table. Was fun doing the work as I did and can think of many other ways this work could be accomplished.
Thanks for your post!
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Would be great to have the rotary table. Have an indexing head but it is too heavy for one person to put on the mill table. Was fun doing the work as I did and can think of many other ways this work could be accomplished.
Thanks for your post!