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Josh Dekubber

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Not sure I believe the "Opens 10-1/2" - (Vise DB says 9)

Having said that, the 825-1/2 is about 50 lbs heavier than the 975. The 975 seems to be in slightly better condition.

I offered full asking price $300 for the 825 1/2 if the seller will meet me on the west side of the mountains in Washington. If he travels this way it may be an option for him.
The 975 missing the swivel wrench was the deciding factor in pursuing the 825 1/2 first but I may still try for the 975. I think the 825 1/2 looks to be in good shape also it is just dirty and the old paint is flaky. Jaws look good I think. Or Am I missing something?
 
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Help! This thing is following me. :eek::scared::lol:
Somebody somewhere needs that base and/or the handle screw assembly. Actually, the main vise body looks rusty but basically OK. It would make one hell of a great door stop until you found either a good matching dynamic from another donor or ????? 😎
 
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question for the experts:
"Littletown" model 25 (looked like maybe only 3 or 4 inch jaw width?)
appears to be intact. does not appear to be broken or horribly abused.
seller is asking $40 bucks.
worth it? not worth it?
 

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question for the experts:
"Littletown" model 25 (looked like maybe only 3 or 4 inch jaw width?)
appears to be intact. does not appear to be broken or horribly abused.
seller is asking $40 bucks.
worth it? not worth it?
Not a fan, the exposed screws turn me off. Passed on several at below that price at GS in the past.
 

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Not a fan, the exposed screws turn me off. Passed on several at below that price at GS in the past.
Generally, me either; I have a few got cheap, under $10, often under 5 and one that opens extra wide is my welding/fab bench "primary ground"

I think Shiftless collects them?
 

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‼️I’m BEYOND thrilled to say that…‼️

After working with the incredible staff over at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History Library…we’ve uncovered not one, not two, but FOUR never-before publicized vise catalogs: two for the Lewis Tool Company and two for the Prentiss Vise Company. Please see the bottom of this post for the listing of these catalogs as well a link to the scans on Internet Archive.

For me personally, as a shameless researcher of Prentiss and its affiliated businesses, these catalogues are nothing short of breathtaking. They shine a light on the complete Prentiss and Lewis product lines during several incredible eras of American history. They indicate which vises and features were either discontinued or newly introduced since the previous catalog, and they provide beautiful, accurate visuals and specs of every item. I’ll leave you all to make your own discoveries among the catalog pages of these two historic companies.

At the risk of being accused of windbaggery…While I would certainly consider myself a collector of vises and vise-adjacent memorabilia, the history is my highest priority. Publicly preserving the written and physical memory of these vises for everyone’s benefit is more important to me than hoarding history for myself. I’m not unique in this. SO MANY here on GJ are motivated by the same passion, and I can’t thank you enough! Given the historic value of these catalogues and the wealth of knowledge in this group, I make a practice of humbly encouraging folks to share their resources for everyone’s benefit and for the sake of preserving history. With that, I’ll step off my soap box.

A little history…Mortimer G. Lewis was the brother-in-law of John Mulford by way of marriage to his sister, Maria. Alongside Mulford and several other shareholders, Lewis became a shareholder in the Prentiss Vise Company on September 3rd, 1877. Thereafter, Lewis would be granted at least eight vise-related patents before the Lewis Tool Company was officially incorporated in February 1894 with a capital of $20,000 and along with co-owners John E. Mulford and son Edwin H. Mulford. Lewis would be granted at least eight more vise-related patents, the last of which was issued in August 1904. During the full existence of the Lewis Tool Company, the Prentiss Vise Company also advertised Lewis’ vises, eventually casting their own name on Lewis’ vises instead of that of the Lewis Tool Company (presumably after having purchased Lewis’ patents). Mortimer G. Lewis passed away in Allassio, Italy on May 6th, 1915.

• Lewis Tool Co – 1896 (31-pg. catalog, no #)
• Lewis Tool Co – 1901 (17-pg. catalog #6)
• Prentiss Vise Co – 1902 (74-pg. catalog X)
• Prentiss Vise Co – 1920 (50-pg. catalog #52)

Link to Scans: https://archive.org/details/@micah_darwin
 

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michad1997: Thank you! I'm going to be spending a lot of time pouring over these catalogs. Here's a Lewis model that surprised me - Lewis' Patent Double Swivel Glass Mould Makers' and Die Sinkers' Vise. (That's quite a mouthful)
You and me both! Several folks have pointed out that specific one. I’ve never seen either model before. It’s also absent in the 1901 catalog, so apparently it wasn’t popular enough to continue production of. Hopefully an example has survived somewhere.
 
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Interesting that there were two Lewis' working on vise design in the same time period.

J. H. Lewis was out of Mass. Where was Morty working?
From Patent: US675098A

I thought Frank was the one who started saying it so many times. 🏙️ 🎤

*Garbled text are probably uncorrect errors from scan to text methods.
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Then tack on .. Sir, Jr.. & Son(s), Inc., Co., Manf., as you go nuts on logos sayin’ “no no no… not in a diamond, in an oval..” and, things like… “yabut.. it is a stamped impression.. not a raised relief?…I’ll just start my search over..”
 

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Homeowners, shop or machinists' vise? Images seems to be homeowner's exposed screw? I'd say not worth it.

Generally, me either; I have a few got cheap, under $10, often under 5 and one that opens extra wide is my welding/fab bench "primary ground"

I think Shiftless collects them?

I confess.
Occasionally I find a sad looking one and take pity on a lowly exposed screw homeowner grade vise and end up working on it way longer than most guys would spend. Then it goes up on a shelf. Why do this? Who knows??

Here are 2 of them. I have more.
I can’t find pics of the Parker in its as found condition but I remember it was worse than the Columbian.
 

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Shift: I've been groovin' on OSV's for the last few years but I'm still looking for a script Lakeside. So far all I have is this clamp on. My favorite OSV is this CHAMPION.
One of the things that make them interesting to me are the names that companies slap on them.
My “Little Giant” draws comments from the few people who tour my little basement vise museum. Note the absurdly large balls on the handle. Little Giant wants to get in above its pay grade.
I got this vise in poor condition without a swivel base but that didn’t slow me down. I don’t remember how much I paid but I doubt that I would have paid over $10

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Thought you guys would get a kick out of this little no name bench vise. I had it mounted in my basement work area a would probably make more use of it in my garage. I probably originally found it at the lake when I cleaned out a couple of garden sheds. The larger one on the right is a Rae made in Canada. But I thought the selling price of $2.40 was amusing.IMG_2047.jpegIMG_2048.jpeg
 
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micahd1997

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Regarding Lewis vises…

This swivel lock arrangement seems unique to Lewis, right guys?

(I have more than a few vises in my collection but only one Lewis.)

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Unique to Lewis and to Prentiss, but no other manufacturer that I’ve ever seen. Here’s a pic of a Lewis-patented vise re-branded as Prentiss (not mine). Would’ve been made after the Lewis Tool Co closed.

Prentiss vises and Lewis vises were all made under the same roof from their inception (Bagley & Sewall in Watertown)
 

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Speaking of Watertown... I found out that Lewis County, NY is named for Morgan Lewis, son of a signer of the Declaration of Independence, and himself a captain in the Revolution. He was also a governor of NY. I don't know if Mortimer Lewis was related to Morgan but It turns out that Lowville, in Lewis County is only 25 miles from Watertown.
 

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I found out that Lewis County, NY is named for Morgan Lewis, son of a signer of the Declaration of Independence, and himself a captain in the Revolution. He was also a governor of NY. I don't know if Mortimer Lewis was related to Morgan
How cool would that be!

Fulton vises are marked Lowville NY. I suppose they might be part of the clan

I’ve wondered the same thing, Shiftless. Honestly it would be surprising if they weren’t part of the clan
 
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