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Packout Type Boxes - Milwaukee or a different brand?

grissom

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I have been thinking about purchasing a packout type box set
Milwaukee has the most products and accessories including aftermarket support but is also one of the most expensive. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...ystem-Low-Profile-Handle-48-22-8401/330035447

This person reviews the Milwaukee, Klein, Husky and Rigid brands

I do own a number of cordless Milwaukee and Makita tools and I generally never leave them unattended

Does having a Milwaukee box give the assumption that it is full of Milwaukee tools and thus more prone to theft?
 
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I own MW and Ridgid boxes/drawers. Both get the job done but the Ridgid price point can’t be beat. I prefer less flashy colors in my truck so Ridgid is my favorite go-to. My Ridgid stack can be reconfigured with drawers on the bottom for little to no unstacking to reach the bottom box. Basic functionality is paramount and any extra accessories are just extra for me.
 

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Just saying....
I recently saw that Milwaukee filed a lawsuit against Klein for patent infringement.

If you're interested in ModBox; Maybe wait a bit.??
 

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I own MW and Ridgid boxes/drawers. Both get the job done but the Ridgid price point can’t be beat. I prefer less flashy colors in my truck so Ridgid is my favorite go-to. My Ridgid stack can be reconfigured with drawers on the bottom for little to no unstacking to reach the bottom box. Basic functionality is paramount and any extra accessories are just extra for me.
I have a lot Bosch boxes but bought a Rigid to store things in my truck bed which has a cap and a black bed liner because its black so it draws less attention and it was cheap.

I like the Rigid a lot because its pretty sturdy and while you loose a bit of space I also like the rounded corner which makes it easier to move it around in the bed when things get crowded compared to the sharp corners of the Bosch ones.

To me the weather proofing of boxes has little to no value because I work mainly inside and I am not one who transports them in an open enviroment.

If I would have the need for that I would most likely go with the Rigid because these things get expensive really fast and they look low key which I like.
 

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Just saying....
I recently saw that Milwaukee filed a lawsuit against Klein for patent infringement.

If you're interested in ModBox; Maybe wait a bit.??

I'm not a lawyer, but sometimes pretend to be, and I find this lawsuit interesting. I don't know if they are using as a "test case," and I'm not familiar with the details of each system, since I own neither and what I have are just cheap knockoff types/brands (because I'm not a pro, combined with being a cheap@ss).

There appears to be 3 main claims that deal with:

1. How the boxes couple to each other (the locking mechanism).
2. Related to #1, how the configuration of the slots, etc. facilitate the secure integration and locking between boxes.
3. The use of a fixed handle, along with a "movable" handle (instead of just one/one type) that makes it easier and more useful individually.

I don't know what the similarities of the locking mechanism and configuration are between the two to make that claim, or if their shooting in the dark to see if they're successful with just the concept of boxes that lock together - perhaps people familiar with both lines can chime in.

But when I hear/read about it, the one part of it that could potentially hit a lot of other makers, if successful, is the handle thing. When I looked at my B&D, one box has and one box doesn't. Looking at my Makita, it only has a folding handle at the top of the cover - but it's the only one I have because the track saw came with it.
 

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Doesn't make sense to jump into these systems unless you're going mobile!

Why spend all the time, effort, and extra cash on what was designed for onsite tradesman?!

Buy a proper toolbox and hang a couple shelves
 

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Bosch L-BOXX are the best.

"The L-BOXX is a joint project from Bosch and Sortimo and perfect for the requirements of mobile work"

 

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I, too, opted for Ridgid over Milwaukee for the less-flashy color scheme and lower price point. No complaints, they have served my needs well. The Packout stuff is nice and features lots of options but unless you really plan on taking advantage of the modularity, I don’t think it’s worth the extra money.

Doesn't make sense to jump into these systems unless you're going mobile!

Why spend all the time, effort, and extra cash on what was designed for onsite tradesman?!

Buy a proper toolbox and hang a couple shelves
This is a fair point. These boxes are most useful for commercial tradesmen, where you and your tools have to cover lots of ground. Maybe some mobile setups. If this is for general storage, there are better options.
 

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Bosch L-BOXX are the best.

"The L-BOXX is a joint project from Bosch and Sortimo and perfect for the requirements of mobile work"

Festo as far as I’m aware, started the “modular tool boxes that lock together” system with their Tanos Systainer cases, or at least that is were the current trend started.
The Systainer cases were originally designed as durable transport cases for sending tools and accessories out to tool dealers, with the idea that the cases would be returned.
The dealers apparently started not returning the cases, and Festo decided to just market the tool cases as a tool case system for their Festo, (later Festool) tools.
Other nanufacturers in Europe also started using the Systainer cases, with a separate brand, Tanos, set up to make and sell the case system.
The other brands included Dewalt, Metabo, Fein, Lamello, and some other manufacturers.
Bosch and Sortimo then came out with a different modular lock together box system, to compete with the Systainer system.
Makita licensed the original Classic design from Tanos, and made interlocking boxes that were compatible with the original “Classic” Systainer system.
Tanos later updated to a new design, that was semi-compatible, but not completely compatible with the Classic Systainer design.
Sort of unfortunately, every tool brand and their parent companies, have now come out with their own box systems, some of which are very hood, but which are usually not compatible with each other system, thereby screwing the whole “modular” idea up.
 

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My brother recently got a bunch of the Milwaukee packout stuff and when we were moving his tools from his older Dewalt tough system to the Milwaukee we found the same size stack held about 20% less tools. It was weird because it looked the same size and we moved the different sections around but no matter what we did his stuff wouldn't fit in the Milwaukee packouts like it did in the Dewalt. And some stuff wouldn't fit at all because of the internal height difference between the seemingly same size boxes. Just throwing that info out for anyone looking at changing boxes.
 

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We all win with the innovation in the portable toolbox sector!

Makita doesnt put out products just to put them out, they always have smart and thoughtful designs, or just tried and true.
 

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I’m in the process of swapping from Rigid to Milwaukee. I’m not certain I’m making the right decision, but I’m still within the return window for the Milwaukee until mid April.

I started with the Rigid for the same reasons as others here: functional, inexpensive, black, and I liked COO Israel. I was mainly trying to organize my work truck with things that I generally did’t transport far away from the truck. I started with one small box for a decent hand tool setup that I would grab and take to the job. Next I added a medium box for heavier tire changing tools, one for ratchet straps and chains, and another for common replacement parts and fluids. I do like the standard handle on the top of the medium box. Since the boxes are narrow from front to back they carry well. These fit well in the back of a short bed truck with flip tonneau cover. When the half sized parts organizers came out I bought a couple, I liked the execution. Fast forward to not working the same job and I started contemplating using the Rigid more like they were intended, stacked for mobile work. I made up a kit designed to use a standard dolly, unfortunately I was annoyed by how much movement there is when they are stacked, and how long it took when unstacking to get something from a lower box. I purchased one of their drawer units and that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The Rigid three drawer unit is 16.2” tall and only gives 9” of drawer height. The locking bars on both sides of the drawer are annoying, but the worst part is the detects are very weak so if the box it at all tipped forward then the drawers all opened at once. I was done and moved on.

As I’m transitioning jobs and potentially careers I was looking for a modular setup I could use to organize groups of tools for different jobs, allowing me to have a set of consistent basic tools then add specific groups of tools as needed and keep them ready to grab and go. I had to get over my distaste for the steal me red of the Milwaukee, once I was past that I liked them better than the other options. I looked at Klein, Modbox, Husky, Dewalt and whatever HF had. Packout is ubiquitous on job sites these days. Part of it is marketing and how good the power tools are, but the stuff does work. Milwaukee won out because of the connecting mechanism and the number of different options and accessories.

The Milwaukee boxes are significantly larger than the Rigid in the width measurement by a couple inches, so they do fit more. The amount of 3D printed organizers for the half sized organizers is very intriguing. Using those to organize something like the oscillating tool, die grinder, M12 impact, etc with all its accessories in one grab and go box sold me on trying packout. I can put those entire kits in the workbench drawer for use in the shop or remote. I started out with three of the half sized organizers to be able to stack next to the ammo can. The larger packout boxes are a little less spectacular than the half sized. I setup the medium box with the rails and a deep organizer for my boat polishing kit. The two boxes are about the same size, but the aluminum railed box has a larger footprint making the setup sit tipped over when I carry it vertically and set it down. The ammo can box is good for a circular saw and should fit my track saw. It will be one I probably buy more of. The regular small and medium boxes with the rails are fine, but big enough they can get pretty heavy. My full size M18 sawzall and the M18 7” polisher fit across them without issue. i don’t know that I’ll want to use them for chains and ratchet straps because they will get very heavy. I don’t prefer the large flip up handle on the medium boxes, but I like that the handles latch the top of the box when deployed.

The Milwaukee drawer units are superior to the Rigid in all ways but one. I purchased the three drawer box with equal sized drawers. The 14.3” tall unit has about 9.75” of drawer height, so more efficient than Rigid. The detents on the drawers will hold them closed reasonably well without the locking bar. The only minor complaint is that the drawers do drag a little when opening and closing, even unloaded, something the Rigid didn’t do. My plan is to use the bottom drawer for batteries, middle drawer for impact wrench, sockets, and M12 impact, and the top drawer for common hand tools. If making a stack I’d do a medium box on the bottom with bulkier tools like the sawzall, then the drawers, then whatever smaller kits I need on top. Maybe three of the half sized organizers and the ammo can for parts.

I didn‘t buy any kind of box with wheels or a cart/dolly. I did buy a floor mounting plate and will make my own rolling dolly out of plywood designed to work with a hand truck. There is a good video that shows what I’m going to copy. I generally plan on working close to my pickup, so I shouldn’t be moving the whole stack at once too often. I may be doing some remote work at a brewery in VT later this yea month where I would want a stack and the ability to roll it around. I also want something for storing packouts in my garage.


I’m $570 into Milwaukee at this point. I may have overbought and could return a couple pieces. I wouldn’t want to buy a bunch of this at retail. The buy more save more deals gave a ~40% discount, so the price really wasn’t terrible. I found the two medium boxes brand new on marketplace for $30 each, so they were a no brainer to buy. I’ll play with it for a month or so and see if I’m happy or if I want to go back to Rigid or try something else. If I don’t need drawers then the rigid is generally fine and very reasonably priced.

If I were working from a pickup and needing to take all my tools with me I’d be interested in the Maktrak system. Their design with the handle coming off the bottom of the wheel cart with the cleats to grip the truck tailgate is genius. I don’t see them making a ton of different pieces like Milwaukee has, but it is appealing for certain trades. This video does pick them apart a bit.

 
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Since I lack the ability to provide insight between manufacturers, all I can share is Klein’s modbox selection. Since Christmas of 2023 I’ve purchased what you see here for me (the dude that’s not supposed to put tools on but does) but also bought more or less all the same stuff for my entire crew.

I will say a couple of the guys were pack out collectors but prefer and moved over to Klein as they have a larger capacity.

Now in my opinion the greatest attribute of Klein and their dimensions is the unique ability to almost instantly transform a crew cab ford into a sporty 2 seater.

Who else can make that claim huh?!🤔
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So far so good but I’m done collecting I think 🤣

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Anything but Milwaukee. It's a good system for sure but I don't want to be flashy. Nobody blinks at my RIDGID tools, or boxes, or anything.
That’s a valid point Brandon. Our orange Tupperware stands out like a honeymoon woody in tight pants.

I hotel it 3-4 nights a week and cover all that neon **** with a couple jackets which hides it really well. But still 🫣
 

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Yeah, same here and it got me thinking if I need to “invest” into Klein boxes for my electrical stuff because that seems where they shine the most.
I’ll add this. Milwaukee or Klein, either are academic since they provide the same basic function, that being mobile organization. And both offer accessory kits that snap right in which makes it very convenient even though it might not be the most viable use of space.

Why I went with Klein is simply because I get decent pricing from my supply house. One of the reasons I bought everyone the same basics is the same reason I standardized (where possible) all my cordless shop equipment, greedy time management tactics. I also supply everyone's personal cordless tools with 18v Milwaukee as well.

Doing so provides a high level of redundancy if something shits the bed, it’s most likely the other guy has the identical whatever. And as for mobile storage I can buy dedicated units for company material and it’ll clip right in place on their base unit to mitigate movement. It’s a pita to pull around a loaded base/stack and an additional cart. And for what we do, when it takes 20-30 minutes just to egress from a muster point to our active location, that efficiency alone can save me several man hours a day.
 
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I started with the Rigid for the same reasons as others here: functional, inexpensive, black, and I liked COO Israel. I
packout made in israel too I think the company is named Ketter group and they make a bunch of injection molded tool stuff there prob making all of them or at least all of the good ones 😂
 

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I just bought a couple of the Klein boxes. Specifically the lower drawer unit they have with wheels. Not having to unstack everything to get into the box is a great feature and it was on sale for like $60 off so I made the jump.

I already have a dewalt set that dates way back to gen 1. I started with it to simply get a big box to throw tools in the back of my jeep when off-roading. I don’t think Milwaukee had boxes at the time. The Klein stuff is better enough for me to make a switch. The Milwaukee was more expensive and not a major upgrade from the dewalt boxes I already have.

I’ve had to work in the field in town the past few months and have had to haul my tools from my truck a couple blocks from a parking garage to a high rise.

I work as an electrician so the unique feature of sticking a conduit bender in the handle to carry it is a great addition.
 
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I been thinking of ditching my softsided Kuny bag and going pack out in the back of the truck. Its got a topper that I will be tinting the windows a little more. Just need to do some measurements with the foamie I plan to buy. I don’t want to move anything that I don’t have to when I go out on my adventure.
 

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One thing to watch out for is something being discontinued that you need a large number of. I was buying Milwaukee's JobSite Organizers and they suddenly quit making them and I haven't been able to find enough at reasonable prices for what I still need. All of the similar products out there now, from every vendor I've found, have a molded in trough in the middle witch reduces the number of removable containers.
 

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I went with Milwaukee for my needs. When I was doing my research about 2-3 years ago, it was the only one I could find that could be surface mounted. That may have changed since then or I missed a brand.
Versamount

I went with Versamount.
 

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Doesn't make sense to jump into these systems unless you're going mobile!

Why spend all the time, effort, and extra cash on what was designed for onsite tradesman?!

Buy a proper toolbox and hang a couple shelves
I disagree completely.

I am not a carpenter or a tradesman, but I have enough tools to make you think I am. Luckily for everyone, I lack talent.

I love keeping all my carpentry, construction, plumbing, electrical and woodworking tools in my Ridgid boxes. If I need to fix something in the house, or any my mother’s house, or at the deer camp five hours away, I grab a box or three and roll.

When they aren’t being used, they sit in a stack in the corner, taking up very little space. That way, my shop has more room to do important **** like work on Jeeps.

Pretty phenomenal way to store things.
 

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I've had Packout stuff for several years now, but if I was starting over from square one I'd go with the Klein ModBox line. More options that fit my needs, and they've had stuff from day 1 that Milwaukee took years to figure out.
 

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I am waiting for Tekton to add black w/red trim boxxes. Thought I love black/red tools mostly, I just can't do all-red boxxes. My other L-Boxxes are dark grey w/colored handle/latches. Mainly because of Bosch tools.
 

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I disagree completely.

I am not a carpenter or a tradesman, but I have enough tools to make you think I am. Luckily for everyone, I lack talent.

I love keeping all my carpentry, construction, plumbing, electrical and woodworking tools in my Ridgid boxes. If I need to fix something in the house, or any my mother’s house, or at the deer camp five hours away, I grab a box or three and roll.

When they aren’t being used, they sit in a stack in the corner, taking up very little space. That way, my shop has more room to do important **** like work on Jeeps.

Pretty phenomenal way to store things.

Sounds like you are going mobile? Congrats, you agree with me.

Why not put your wrenching gear in the Rigid system? Probably because there's a better way to store it- a proper toolbox.
 

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Milwaukee took years to figure out.
The only thing Milwaukee has figured out is how to make more money.

They get the first round of suckers with the V1 release, then the upgraders with the V2 release.

More power to them, but I have learned (quickly) to sit it out unless I need what they are offering at the time. Still rocking the V1 multi tool.
 

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The only thing Milwaukee has figured out is how to make more money.

They get the first round of suckers with the V1 release, then the upgraders with the V2 release.

More power to them, but I have learned (quickly) to sit it out unless I need what they are offering at the time. Still rocking the V1 multi tool.
Same. 80% of my cordless tools are Milwaukee but I'm never quick to jump on something new. They definitely put out subpar products with the future versions already in mind, just to get the suckers to spend money 2-3 times instead of once.
 
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