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Maybe put one of those water alarms in the drain for the emergency relief line? So you know when either the hot water tank or the pressure relief line has issues...
Seems like a great idea. It’s odd it seems like no one makes a cheap smart pressure gauge for plumbing that works with Zwave or the ihome automation system. Moen makes a sensor / valve but it’s stupid expensive
 
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The new PRV arrived and it was a surprisingly easy install.
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$225 for a new unit delivered next day VS $150 for a rebuild kit 10 days out. That was an easy decision. It totally fixed my water pressure problems too... glad I finally got that sorted.
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Lets see why the old unit was F'd
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20+ years of use and the filter screen is still clean with no sediments... thats a estimate to how clean our water is (turns out the city F'd up a bridge rebuild and drive a piling into a sewer main dumping 50,000 gallons of **** into the lake / drinking supply....
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Now lets checkout the valve its self
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A #8 flat head removes the valve seat.
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The rubber seal is deteriorating. Its rubbing off on to the hands.
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Now lets look at the spring / diaphrahm
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Spring and diaphragm look ok so far.
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and the rubber diaphragm is totally f'd. The rubber is fully starting to break down.
 
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The rubber seals on the valve piston are also done.
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It's amazing how much they charge for a PRV and how simple they are. I had no idea they are supposed to be serviced every 5-10 years. I had over 20 on this one.
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Been riding a bunch with the kid
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It's been mind boggling to see how much he progressed this summer. At the begging of summer I never thought he would be this good at 7. I thought for sure being able to take him on every trail and have him ride all of the wood work and most of the rock rolls / drops wouldn't happen til 12 or so. He figured it out in one summer.
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Did you ever get a resolution on your neighbour cutting down your tree?

I think I am remembering the right thread?
 
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Did you ever get a resolution on your neighbour cutting down your tree?

I think I am remembering the right thread?
It’s still on going. He tried to claim adverse possession as his defense so that triggered my title insurance. Lawyers are doing their thing (wasting time and tacking up their bills) so no new news on that. (n)
 

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It’s still on going. He tried to claim adverse possession as his defense so that triggered my title insurance. Lawyers are doing their thing (wasting time and tacking up their bills) so no new news on that. (n)
Damn. I'm sorry. It has been long enough I was sure that had straightened itself out.

It amazes me the audacity that people (like your neighbour have).
 
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Stian just got a new setup of skis and boots from Head skis so figured it was about time to teach him some important life skills and have him mount his own skis!
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I taught him to properly set the correct binding jig to his boots and properly align it to his skis. We are going with a +1cm mount on his Oblivion 80’s.
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I then had him use the proper Wintersteiger drill bit. Kids skis use a 7mm long bit whereas adults use a 9.5.

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We then center punched the holes in the jig and he then drilled his skis.

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I then taught him how to properly counter sink the holes and then add glue to them.

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He then used the Festool CXS to drive the screws.
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Finally he torqued them to spec with a Wera torque limiting screwdriver set to 4NM. Dad then calculated the DIN and tested it with my Binding tester. At 7 years old he now knows how to better mount skis than most stoned shop kids. Hopefully he doesn’t develop the typical shop kid attitude next! Haha!
 

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Love seeing the kid out there. My youngest does a lot in the shop with me, but his older brother has no interest in being out there.
 
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I haven't posted in a while, mostly because life has been in total chaos and I've had no time. Almost 2.5+ years ago my wife filed for divorce and we had a gnarly battle over parenting time, and the finances. After blowing damn near everything I had on lawyers, I finally ended up with 40% parenting time during the school year and 50% during the summer. I now know why every guy I know will tell you divorce is 100% biased against men in this state. The courts pretend it's equitable, but it's fully stacked against you. It's mind boggling that it doesn't default to 50% especially when you dont have a single negative check mark against you, let alone a parking ticket. But at least now I can take my kid biking and skiing at least every-other weekend. My Ex had argued that was reckless engagement. WTF? She ended up with all of our retirement and I get the pleasure of buying her out from the house, even thou she never paid a cent towards it, but you know what, at least I'm now free from that mess other than sorting out the house buy out.

The winter after our divorce started, we had an avalanche accident at the end of our work trip in Japan, caused by another group, that killed one of my athletes and good friend, in addition to killing a skier from the group and burying my best friend 5' deep for 25 minutes. Dealing with that situation, the 8 hour long Japanese police interrogation the next day (The Japanese police sent their organized crime unit to investigate it as a murder) and all of the work to get my friends body back home to his newlywed wife took a toll on me and a I took a few months off to get my head right. At the end of the season, I along with my boss, where pushed out of our long term contracts / employment with Ikon pass (mostly due to taking personal time after the accident while on the work trip for them) just in time to see the entire outdoor industry implode from the post covid bubble. I saw that bubble pop coming and had managed to save a ton of cash, not only from the few boom years of Covid, but from my entire career. Unfortunately my Ex-got nearly all of it. So I went from 3 of my best years ever making stupid good money, to for the first time in 25 years not having a single contract or source of income. So with zero signs of perspective work, and so far no success finding a job in a different industry / field, last summer I decided to start a side job business of rebuilding mountain bike suspension and mounting ski bindings this fall. That has proven to be crazy busy, and luckily all of the tools that I had acquired over the years proved to be a nice reserve for bringing in additional income. So far it hasn't been enough to fully support me, but at least its enough to help slow the flow of funds flowing out of my meager savings I got left with after the divorce.

So long story short, I went from making stupid good money with lots of free time, to making very little with almost no free time... and I now get to start all over in regard to retirement at age 45. In other words, I'm now doing it all in reverse, as I had the lifestyle of being retired for the last 25 years, and now I get to work my *** off harder than ever to try to rebuild, but hey at least I really enjoy it. If the photo business ever comes back around, combined with the shop side business, it should allow me to rebuild rather quickly... or at least that what's the eternal optimist in me wants to believe.

Along the way 8 months into the divorce, I just happen to meet an amazing lady friend when I wasn't looking, (former World Cup mountain bike racer, former Single Speed World Champ), thats now a family med doc, and has a daughter the same age as my son (the kids have become best friends). She's helped me out in so many ways as a friend during what's been the most stressful string of life events I could have ever imagined. She's in the process of building a second home down in Sedona, so working with her on designing the floor plans, etc has been a nice distraction for me. It's also a welcome change to finally be with someone that gets pissed if I don't ride my bike daily, VS. someone that was in spite of me doing it.

The last year or so, I've watched my 81 year old dad's health decline rapidly. His body will no longer produce saliva, so it's nearly impossible for him to eat causing his body to basically starve him to death. He's been to every specialist and they have done everything they can to figure out what is causing it / treatment and they have zero answers. It looks like cancer, but they have fully ruled that out. 2 weeks ago they installed a feeding tube, and then 2 days later at home he was complaining of chest pain all day and his wife just thought it was from the feeding tube incision, after 8 hours she finally called 911 and he was in the hospital for 2 days before she let any of the family know. I only found out when my dad didnt call 2 days in a row (We have always talked daily and I'm damn grateful for that relationship with him). When drove back to Yakima to see him the next day I spoke to the doc and evidently, that chest pain was most likely a heart attack (He had all of the enzyme markers for it, but he is so weak they cant do any intervention let go in and verify what happened, and my dad has asked to be full DNR now. The lack of nutrition has caused his short term memory to almost disappear and his wife isn't doing the best mentally either with all of the stress (she's in denial that there is something wrong with my dad) So I've had my hands full getting him from the hospital into a nursing home while trying to get in home care setup. Dying is a crazy emotional process, and while I'm thankful I keep having opportunities to say goodby, it's damn hard when each time I do say goodby in the back of my mind, I wonder if thats the last time. I remember my mom telling me when she was dying of cancer 20 years ago, that no matter how much family or friends you have or how often they visit, dying is a lonely process as you have to do it by yourself. My dad told me when I visited this week, that he's still learning how to grow old as he's never done it before and its happening fast (he still has some humor left!). It's also crazy how a guy that once designed nuclear reactors for submarines and was the head of engineering out at Hanford for the B-plant (Plutonium / Nuke waist processing) and its clean up now has a hard time holding a 10 minute conversation. Thankfully his long term memory is still sharp, but he keeps saying the hardest part of the short term memory going, is the inability to reason in the thought process, ie, mentally compare two scenarios, etc.

As if that wasnt enough my long time free ski partner, died in a freak ski accident 10 days ago too.

This isn't meant to be a pity me post, rather just all of the **** thats gone on lately. I've had so many things go perfect in my life, where I've gotten to literally live a Billionaire's lifestyle on a dirt bag budget heliskiing all of the world, have had a successful career that I aboslutlue loved and the best son I could ever ask for. So sooner or later, things were bound to go sideways. Hopefully this is just all of those major life events all once, and once they are out of the way, it's back to the good life. Things are looking up too. A major book publisher reached out to me via a literary agent, to recruit me to write a book on skiing. Never thought I'd get into writing a book, despite licensing my images in countless books over the years. Signing a contract with a representative and learning about the book publishing world and its contracts and advance payments, royalties, etc has been very educating to say the least.... I'm kinda looking forward to working on the project despite the fact it's going to be a big investment in time.

Ok, back to why you are probably reading this thread in the first place, workshop stuff.
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Part of the success with the suspension business, is that I turn the rebuilds around in 24 hours, while most places send them out and are a month + out on turnaround times. I am also willing to do stuff most places wont, such as rebuilding Ohlins... turns out they are actually easier to service than most Fox / Rockshocks stuff. The main piston / bladder is just held in place by snap rings. The the whole seal head gets replaced as a unit.

The suspension business slowed down this fall, just as ski binding mounts picked up. Once again, thats been super successful as I turn the mounts around in an hour while every shop in town is 2 weeks out. The key to that speed, is A, experience, but having all of the proper tooling.
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I just so happen to have the largest collection of binding jigs in the PNW. You cant by these on the open market, as you have to be a dealer for each brands binding to get their jigs. Since I've worked with all of the brands over the years doing their catalog shoots, I have acquired every jig. Only other way to get them is if you find a shop selling them used which is rare and they are stupid expensive. I.E $350 and up!

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I even have the ATK factory jig. ATK is an Italian ski touring binding maker, they make the Ferrari of ski bindings all beautifully CNC'd. Their jig is no exception as its machined and laser etched out of billet, while every other jig is stamped sheet metal.
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Locally at Baker we have a lot of college age kids that like to really push it on skis. For them, the CAST touring conversion for the old school Look Pivot bindings is the most burley setup you can get. Problem is it requires two more holes to be drilled in addition to what the standard look jig has.
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So I laid the locations out using the DRO on the mill, and machined a prototype jig up. I just so happened to have a contact at ROXBO who makes the factory jigs for most brands and got them to custom make me a factory jig, but with the extra holes for the Cast system.
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So I'm now the only guy with a factory jig for those bindings, and it saves me a ton of time. It wasn't cheap to make, but it paid for itself the first week I had it, in the amount I uncharge for the Cast system.
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The biggest time saver tho, is eliminating process time. The single biggest repeatable time ****, was changing bits during the mounting process, so I added a Festool CSXS 12 to the fleet. I know have their impact driver for zipping out old binding screws for remounts, the drill dedicated to drilling new holes, a CXS just for counting sinking, and then the new CXS for installing the binding screws and finally ya WERA torque limiting driver to set the torque to the factory spec of 4NM.
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For the last 25 years, for myself and the athletes, we never bothered testing our bindings, but we were almost always mounting up new bindings every time. I wont do that for the general public for liability reasons, so I purchased a Vermont Release Calibrator. These are essentially stupid expensive torque wrenches with special adapters to fit in ski boots. The complete system is only $6200!
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And it's essentially just a beam style torque wrench with two ranges in NM depending on if you are using the longer arm attachment to test the forward release. At some point, I think I'm going to invest in a good digital Torque wrench to replace this, fi I can figure out how to replicate the dual value mode.
 
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Up until just last week, this was the typical morning view of skis being dropped off in the am, waiting for mounts. It's been damn busy! The nice thing about the binding mounts is that it's $74 a pop, takes 20-30 minutes and costs nothing but waterproof due for consumables once you have the tooling.

I've also made a few other new additions to the shop too.
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One of the few shops locally that was doing suspension work, stopped shortly after I started, and sold me some of their tooling for a really good price, such as this shock hand Dyno.
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It allows me to test the shock dampers before rebuild, I.e. detect if their is any issues with the damper such as cavitation, etc. and once rebuild it allows me to easily verify all of the functions of the compression, rebound, lockout are working correctly. You can do this by hand but you will be exhausted after just a few a day!
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10 years ago a local transmission shop went out of business and sold their tables, I have been kicking myself ever since for not buying one. Finally after years of looking I came across a used Snapon transmission tear down table it like new conditions for a stupid good price, so I jumped on it. This table is damn beefy, and what's special about them is that they the top is sloped away from you so all of the fluids form whatever you are working on drain away from you. I really wish I had this when I did the tear down and rebuild on the lathes gear box!
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At the back of the table there is a trough with drain, so all of the fluids can drain into a container for disposal. This will be really nice for doing the suspension work as all of the messy part will be on it, such as tear down and bleeding. I need to sort out how I want to mount a dedicated vise to it. Speaking of which, I really want to find a dedicated off-set vise for this and will probably sell the Reed or the Starrett vises I picked up once I rebuild them. Typically you want the fixed jaw flush with the front of the table, in this case I want the majority of the working area of the vise over the table to catch fluids... so I might figure out a way to suspend the vise over the table. Just another project on the to do list.
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I'm maxed out on space, so was some serious garage Tetris to get it to fit in. Unfortunately it ended up where I had planned to put the lathe, but the table is more important for business use right now. I'm planning on selling the house soon as I can find a decent one with a larger shop in my price range, so not too concerned about where the lathe will go yet.
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Grant, hate to hear the troubles man. I know life tends to pile on us. I have been through some similar tough situations but its good to hear your business has grown and doing well! Keep your head up and keep rockin bro. You got this!
 

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Don't know much about ski bindings at all, but the one from my country is Elan. I wonder if those are known over there too?
 

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I think it's safe to admit that you've got/had a lot going on and most of it not positive. It's great to hear there are some positive things going on to give some relief to the heavier ****. I've had a much more challenging run the last couple years compared to normal with a lot of heavy **** all coming together and it took awhile for me to realize that I didn't have what I needed to manage it myself and that getting some help is ok. Someone impartial to talk to whether it's a friend or a paid professional, asking for help on things you'd normally handle and learning how to say "No" to some requests/requestors were things that assisted me. Hopefully with some of the brighter spots you've got a bit of relief and that the future is looking brighter, even if the challenges aren't over yet.
 
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Grant, hate to hear the troubles man. I know life tends to pile on us. I have been through some similar tough situations but its good to hear your business has grown and doing well! Keep your head up and keep rockin bro. You got this!
Thanks. I think a positive attitude and a little determination will get me through it all and I’m confident the other side will be greener pastures.
Don't know much about ski bindings at all, but the one from my country is Elan. I wonder if those are known over there too?
Elan makes great skis but they haven’t been very successful in pushing into the NA market mostly due to a lack of marketing. Their bindings are rebranded tyrolia.
I think it's safe to admit that you've got/had a lot going on and most of it not positive. It's great to hear there are some positive things going on to give some relief to the heavier ****. I've had a much more challenging run the last couple years compared to normal with a lot of heavy **** all coming together and it took awhile for me to realize that I didn't have what I needed to manage it myself and that getting some help is ok. Someone impartial to talk to whether it's a friend or a paid professional, asking for help on things you'd normally handle and learning how to say "No" to some requests/requestors were things that assisted me. Hopefully with some of the brighter spots you've got a bit of relief and that the future is looking brighter, even if the challenges aren't over yet.
Best thing I did after the Japan accident was higher a therapist that specialized in those kids of accidents.
 

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Sorry that you are having to deal with so many hits all at once. I am glad to hear that there have been some upsides too. Wished you were closer to me, I would 100% use you for my bindings & skis. I just had a few pairs done and I doubt they did half as good a job as you do. I am glad your business is booming. Hopefully you find the House/shop you deserve soon.

Glad to see you back here man, I have always loved the content that you share with us.

How do you like the Cast system? I am looking into getting my first touring setup soon, I wont be throwing down huge cliffs or tricks (and plan to stay mostly low angle) but I struggle mentally to not have my DIN bindings. I think i am leaning towards the ATK RaiderEvo 13s with the freeride spacer vs CAST. I just dont see myself as going BIG backcountry.
 
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Sorry that you are having to deal with so many hits all at once. I am glad to hear that there have been some upsides too. Wished you were closer to me, I would 100% use you for my bindings & skis. I just had a few pairs done and I doubt they did half as good a job as you do. I am glad your business is booming. Hopefully you find the House/shop you deserve soon.

Glad to see you back here man, I have always loved the content that you share with us.

How do you like the Cast system? I am looking into getting my first touring setup soon, I wont be throwing down huge cliffs or tricks (and plan to stay mostly low angle) but I struggle mentally to not have my DIN bindings. I think i am leaning towards the ATK RaiderEvo 13s with the freeride spacer vs CAST. I just dont see myself as going BIG backcountry.
I wasn't a fan of the Cast 1.0 system, but the 2.0 is by far the burliest touring setup on the market and well thought out now, but it's damn heavy! Those ATK's are the cat's meow. They have a lateral din setting on both the hell and the toe... however in all of the ones I've tested, I have never had the toe din be the one that releases, its always the heel, so not sure how beneficial it is having it in both spots.
 
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Stian made his first part on my Bridgeport mill today. Just a simple cube, but it’s a good first project to learn the basics of machining. Not bad for 7 years old. The problem with edumacation in this country is the lack of time hands on learning how to apply what they teach you in books / class rooms. Stian loves math (he’s already learning some algebra / geometry) but in my mind it’s pointless to learn unless you learn how to actually apply it to making things. Instead of worrying about the outside chance our kids could get hurt (a little supervision goes a long ways) we should be more worried about what happens if we fail to teach them how to apply knowledge or better yet how to ask questions so they can teach themselves. IMG_3151.jpegIMG_3150.jpegIMG_3152.jpeg
 

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It's actually not about the possibility of injury why CTE classes have almost disappeared, it's about funding. Most school districts work on tight budgets and have to allocate funds best benefitting the majority of the student body. I agree , it *****, but it is the reality. I was a finish carpenter for 30+ years and toward the end of my career the only real finish carpenters in my area were all over 60.
 
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It's actually not about the possibility of injury why CTE classes have almost disappeared, it's about funding. Most school districts work on tight budgets and have to allocate funds best benefitting the majority of the student body. I agree , it *****, but it is the reality. I was a finish carpenter for 30+ years and toward the end of my career the only real finish carpenters in my area were all over 60.
I don’t know if funding really is the case here in Washington state where all of the timber sales from state lands are required to fund education. The average teacher here is making 80-100k a year and the school districts are all building multimillion dollar sports fields even for middle schools. It’s really not about the money but about miss guided direction.
 
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I don’t know if funding really is the case here in Washington state where all of the timber sales from state lands are required to fund education. The average teacher here is making 80-100k a year and the school districts are all building multimillion dollar sports fields even for middle schools. It’s really not about the money but about miss guided direction.
Agreed. We interviewed a teacher and he makes 72k - pretty dang good for 8.5 - 9 months of work. The high schools they’re building now look like colleges a few decades ago.
 
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Had a Manitou kids for come in. Customer complained the kid kept blowing out the dust seals. It was Covid era and it totally had the wrong spring side internals. It had the bottom shaft with the broken foot. This is actually a shaft from an adult spring fork and they had just stuck a non attached air piston head in there. So every time the fork compressed that floating piston head would migrate up then eventual blow the top off the dust seals. The correct air spring shaft is on top. Apparently like Fox they did some shady stuff most likely due to high demand and low parts availability and just stuck whatever they had laying around in there.

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Aside from being mostly plastic garbage one thing I really hate about manipoo is they do everything as backwards. The lower foot bolts that hold the lowers on are reverse threaded and instead of using a hex on both sides the spring side uses an 8mm long very thin walled socket. They want to sell you their factory tool for $65.
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So I took an 8mm old craftsman U.S.A. socket (much thinner sidewalls then even my Snapon ones) and decided to machine it down. Since I don’t have power to the lathe yet I stuck it in a collet in the Bridgeport and used some lathe tooling in the mill vise. Ala vertical lathe. IMG_3107.jpeg
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That was surprisingly easy. Worked great too other than I chipped the round carbide insert so didn’t get the smoothest transition in the step, but good enough for a tool I only will use on a rare occasion.

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Best of all it fits perfectly.
 

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I sincerely hope things are turning around for you. I always look forward to updates on your thread. I’ve been tempted and am finally going forward with an inquiry to you about a tune up for my mtb shocks.

I have a RockShox RS-1. The one with the inverted forks. My local shops would have to send it out for a tuneup. I’m sure you know.. it’s a unique-ish inverted design.

Any thoughts on it’s design, experience with its ride characteristics, and.. thoughts on refreshing/tuning it up? It’s on a Specialized Crave hard tail XC bike. If this is better through a PM, happy to do that. It’s not on my most frequent bike that I ride.. but it’s my only mtb and not been serviced in over 5 years. IMG_1316.jpeg
 
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I sincerely hope things are turning around for you. I always look forward to updates on your thread. I’ve been tempted and am finally going forward with an inquiry to you about a tune up for my mtb shocks.

I have a RockShox RS-1. The one with the inverted forks. My local shops would have to send it out for a tuneup. I’m sure you know.. it’s a unique-ish inverted design.

Any thoughts on it’s design, experience with its ride characteristics, and.. thoughts on refreshing/tuning it up? It’s on a Specialized Crave hard tail XC bike. If this is better through a PM, happy to do that. It’s not on my most frequent bike that I ride.. but it’s my only mtb and not been serviced in over 5 years. IMG_1316.jpeg
So, it's essentially the same internals as a standard fork, just everything is upside down and it requires a special tool to disassemble the lowers. That being said I can do it, and can turn it around in 24 hours. They have a surprisingly large number of service kits for a fork they only made for 4 years! Shoot me a DM with the serial number from the back of the crown and I can look up the parts costs.
 
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Life's been as good as it can be given all of life's events. Been spending a ton of time riding with Stian on skis and bikes this winter. At 7 he's getting pretty damn good.
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The Commercial action sports photo industry is all but dead right now, but I've been doing quite a bit of catalog shooting for Stio and shot their current catalog cover.
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Theo's chocolate factory in Seattle closed up and they had some Vidmar and Lista boxes at the auction that no-one bid on, so I won them with my minimum bids. For being in a chocolate factory they were surprisingly beat. I'll re-paint them this summer. My buddy Jessie helped me unload them, and while I was contemplating were they will go, he put new rubber on his kids bike.

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Level 9 garage Tetris is in full effect. I really need to buy a place with a much bigger shop space when life allows it. See those 3 Huot index's on the work bench? They were tap versions and came with the list / Vidmar boxes.
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I have Lista drawers full of taps, so those index's wont work for me for that.
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So they are going to get re-used as organizers for all of my held-coils / other thread inserts, etc.
Back to the garage Tetris. Ideally I want all of the suspension tear downs to happen on the Snapon Transmission table, and it would be ideal if all of those tools lived under it. So how to get 2 Vidmar boxes under it?
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So pulled the top off of the legs. Notice how they are angled on top, this is so all of the oil drains into the catch basin on the back of the table. I cant just place the table on top of the flat Vdimars.
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A section of Unitstrut attached to the bottom should give me the angle I need and also allow me to attache it to the Vidmars. It allowed me to use the factory threaded holes in the Snapon table.
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A few Unit strut spring loaded nuts allows me to attache it to the Vidmars.
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Well that worked out perfectly.
 
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So here is what I ended up with. New Lista on the left and the two new Vidmars under the Snapon Transmission table. I need to figure out how I want to hover a Vise over this. I dont want a typical mount with the Static jaw flush with the front of the workbench as I want the bench to capture all fluids....so need to think this out a bit.
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Will most likely be eithzrthe Starret or the Reed Vise once I restore them. BTW thats a **** ton of weight in that Lista drawer....A Snapon box wont hold that!
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Main work bench with all of my drill bit storage and the new tap boxes on top holding the thread repair bits.
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New inserts for the Vidmar drawer handles make a big difference too. I'll label once I cut new foam.... more on that in a bit.
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I'm now up to 4 Vidmar boxes and 4 tall Lista's
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I still need to do some measuring, but I think I'll sell the cabinet saw as I very rarely use it why my Festool track saw setup and my Brother now has my Dad's cabinet saw when I need to use one. Then I'll move the bikes to the floor and ideally put the 10EE lathe where the bikes are.
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I then got a call last Monday asking if I wanted to go to Whitecap lodge for a free trip? Apparently they had a cancelation but I had to be in Pemberton that night. So loaded up the truck and drove north. In the am I was on the heli pad in Pemberton with the Head ski team (all good friends) and a A-star B2
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It's a bit crazy I haven't been in a Heli let alone an A-star since the start of Covid when my last trip was a month straight at Bella-Coolla. Sure felt great to be back in the front seat scoping lines.
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There is no road access into Whitecap, even in the summer, so the entire setup and all of the building materials had to come in via Helicopter. Not a cheap way to build a totally off grid lodge.
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The food was amazing.
 
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And lots of beer was drank!
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Good times with Good people. Jeff in the Plaid shirt has filmed most of the Ski movies made in the last 20 years.
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Turns out our guide Hayden, was the guy that intiated the rescue in Japan when we had are accident 2 years ago. He's the only reason why I didnt fly home with 2 body bags. So it was icing on the cake to get this shot of him.
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And the Skiing was F'ing good!
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Not bad for a last minute trip!
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Back home I drove over to the FastCap warehouse and picked up 25 sheets of the Kaizen foam. Time to redo most of my drawers.
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First drawer is my dial / test indicators, depth gauges and holders. Thats an expensive drawer!
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Turned out well and is way more efficient than this blow molded cases stacked in a drawer.
 

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Man around here I dont think anyone has ever heard of a lista or vidmar cabinet. Never seen one for sale even at a rediculous price in the wild around here. Those ski shots look amazing, yet another year has gone by for me without hitting the slopes.
 
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Man around here I dont think anyone has ever heard of a lista or vidmar cabinet. Never seen one for sale even at a rediculous price in the wild around here. Those ski shots look amazing, yet another year has gone by for me without hitting the slopes.
It’s amazing how many people don’t know what Lista and Vidmars are. I’ve found that just by keeping an eye out for them they occasionally pop up for sale. This ski season was the least I’ve ever shot photos, but the most I’ve skied for myself in years and that felt really good. Especially skiing with the kid.
Just came across your thread for the first time, no idea why i haven't seen it before!
Interesting seeing that manipoo :cry: i've been through hell buying a set of mezzers lately :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
It’s amazing how many people swear by those Mezzers, but to be honest I’d never spend money on anything they make. Too many better options out there.

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Ending up selling the tall lista I just bought at auction for $150 more than I bought it for. I decided it was just too beat up for my taste. Then ended up finding this wide 10 drawer lista for $800. I find anytime you can pick one up for less than $100 a drawer you are doing good. Drive down to meet the kid selling it. Asked him where he got it from and said his parents were moving and sold their landscaping business. Kid was full of it as it had some electrical parts in it….. regardless he didn’t really know what it was and I could probably have gotten the price down a bit more but didn’t bother as I quickly realized this was essentially brand new and it’s the newest style too. IMG_3347.jpeg
Gone are the old style drawer trays. Instead it’s got these new style drawer slides. Still rated as strong as before and they slide way nicer, but I have my doubts it’s as skookum as they old style.
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Got it loaded up with suspension seal kits so it’s hardly going to be stressed. Sure is nice being able to have a drawer for each brand to fully organize all of the kits. I do need to order more Schaller bins for the small parts.
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Got a couple more of the Vidmar drawers reorganized and labeled too. IMG_3405.jpeg
That drawer is effing heavy but the Vidmar handles it with ease. The thing with these industrial cabinets is that the drawee actually feel better with more weight in them.
 
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Ended up putting an entire new drive train on the E-bike. My AXS derailleur died so warranted it and used that as an opportunity to upgrade to T-Type. Plan is to hardwire this in as the issue with these electric derailleurs is the battery contacts eventually go out. They moved the battery inboard which should help, but I’m over remembering to charge the batteries. IMG_3407.jpeg
Got the hardwire cable run. The adapter is stupid expensive and unfortunately the motor doesn’t have any free plugs on it so i got to run a Di2 cable all the way up to this display but in Shimanos wisdom on the EP8 they went to a new style Di2 cable that only uses male ends instead of the female ends as before so I had to order another adapter cable. F#€king bike industry and their constantly changing “standards”
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Speaking of changing standards my go to Park chain breaker I’ve had for years won’t work with the new T-Type chains so picked up the Abby chain breaker. Never could justify the cost of it, but figured I’d treat myself. It’s extra painful that you have to spend an extra $21 for the T-type plate. I’m going to leave this setup for T-Type and keep the park for the standard chains but with the Abby you can just change the plates for each chain type. I will say tho this is by far the nicest tool they make and that’s saying something. It’s beautiful machined and feels incredible to use.
 
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So I've been looking for an offset vise for a while, to use as dedicated vise on the Transmission teardown table to use for suspension work. These dont come up very often.
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A local seller had this one listed for a while, price was steep, but it's a rare special purpose vise. I reached out to him, and we tentative agreed on a pretty fair price. Then as luck would have it, This popped up in my feed.

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It was a 5" Dawn vise . Dawn made the offset vises for Wilton, so other than name they are identical. Best of all, the guy only wanted $300 USD for it. So after a short trip across the border it was mine. I’m not one to pull out of a negotiated deal but this was way too good of a price to pass up. Guy I brought it from has no idea what it was. Thankfully the seller of the Wilton was a vise collector so he was pretty understanding.
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These vises are very heavy and well made. Both the 5 and 6" use the same floating nut.
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The casting features a screw guide in it as well.
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Just like Starrett vises, it uses a spring to account for back lash in the screw.
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It's always nice to see a properly installed cotter pin with the ends terminated correctly.
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With the cotter pin out I can slide the spring and the thin washers on either side off of the screw.
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The front thrust washer is actually domed, to match the rounded machining on both the dynamic jaw and the screw head. Interesting. I'd like to replace this with a thrust bearing, but that would require machining the jaw (no problem) but also the screw and I'm not sure how soon I cant get the lathe wired up... so lets see about replacing the thrust washer.
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It was quite worn as was the washers on either side of the spring.
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All of the hardware will get replaced.
 
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I got the screw cleaned up and it's just under 1". I filed off the bur on the knuckle edge, but once the lathe is done I will put it in there to clean it up and make a new handle, but this will work for now.
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I took a standard brass washer with a 1" ID and 2" OD and made it into a domed washer using larger socket and the head of a carriage bolt and pressed it in the arbor press. Worked really well!
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That fits perfectly.
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I removed the burr on the dynamic jaw with a large countersink.
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Test fit looks good, but damn that handle is beat!
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The stock spring washer is on the right its quite worn. I could use the thinner bushings in the middle, but I think I'm going to use the thicker on the left however this will increase the preload on the spring making it difficult to install the cotter pin.
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So I need to make a spring compressor to install the pin. I took some PVC scrap and used an end mill to notch the end.
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Using a bar clamp on the end of the pipe and end the screw, I could compress the spring to easily install a cotter pin. Note the spring was clearly cut from a longer spring. This causes it to catch when reversing the screw. I'm going to order a replacement spring that has the proper flush ends.
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It's really nice having a dedicated tear down table in the shop for any wet and oily projects as it contains all of the mess.
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The Jaw screws were a ***** to get out. I had to use a lot of hear on them.
 
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And use a wrench and the screwdrivers bolster to get enough torque to break them loose.
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Turns out all 4 screws were bent. Probably because the vise puts an angle load on them.
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Now that I know the screws were bent, I tapped the jaws a bit with a hammer before removing the next set. That made it a hell of a lot easier.
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In order to have the reach to machine the jaws, I had to move the ram on the Bridgeport all the way forward.
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I bolted the static jaw to the mill table and tramed it in using a back indicator. Spot on across the jaws.
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I installed the dynamic jaw and also checked it with the indicator to make sure it's flat too. Then clamped a Starrett parallel into the vise. This will keep it all aligned while I machine it.
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The sides of the jaws were pretty hammered. a ¾" end mill will make quick work of this.
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Thats way better!
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I then repeated the process on the other side.
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Finally I used a 2" shell mill to mill the tops flat. Here you can see how far out they were after the first pass. All told, I took .100 off of each side and .1100 off of the top. Unless I decide to add a thrust needle bearing to the screw thats all of the milling on the vise.
 
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Got the mill ram reset back to the standard position and went to install the Kurt milling vise again.
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The bottom of the Kurt has these two keys that it into the mill table slots. Idea is to make it quicker to re-tram it back in. Only problem is no matter what I did it was .005 out across the 6" daws. Thats way more than I'd like to see over 6" So I removed them.
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I was then able to quickly tram in the vise and got it within .001. I'll take that.
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And then re-checked the framing of the head. It's still spot on in the Y-axis
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And spot on in the X, so its ready to go for the next project.
 

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Beautiful vise and beautiful work.

I'd like to replace this with a thrust bearing, but that would require machining the jaw (no problem) but also the screw and I'm not sure how soon I cant get the lathe wired up... so lets see about replacing the thrust washer.

I wonder what the purpose of it all being domed is. Due to the spring it does add a self-centering effect to the spindle.

It may be worth considering a tapered roller bearing (or roller thrust bearing) instead of a regular ball thrust bearing. This would somewhat retain the original design purpose with the taper. Though if the regular roller bearing is machined in well, it would also center it.

But the other thing is - the dome allows the spindle to be straight even if there is any bending (it does not constrain its angle), and the bearing will not do that.

Honestly I am probably overthinking it. But if they did it that way originally, it must have some purpose. Other option is to retain the domed feature with the bronze washer, but fit a bearing between the spindle head and the domed washer, not instead of it (so the bearing takes care of the rotational friction, but the domed brass washer retains the originally intended correction for the angle). That would probably be the most smooth. The domed washer would need to be turned on a lathe and extended into a sleeve that contains and protects the bearing.
 
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Beautiful vise and beautiful work.
Thanks!
I wonder what the purpose of it all being domed is. Due to the spring it does add a self-centering effect to the spindle.

It may be worth considering a tapered roller bearing (or roller thrust bearing) instead of a regular ball thrust bearing. This would somewhat retain the original design purpose with the taper. Though if the regular roller bearing is machined in well, it would also center it.

But the other thing is - the dome allows the spindle to be straight even if there is any bending (it does not constrain its angle), and the bearing will not do that.

Honestly I am probably overthinking it. But if they did it that way originally, it must have some purpose. Other option is to retain the domed feature with the bronze washer, but fit a bearing between the spindle head and the domed washer, not instead of it (so the bearing takes care of the rotational friction, but the domed brass washer retains the originally intended correction for the angle). That would probably be the most smooth. The domed washer would need to be turned on a lathe and extended into a sleeve that contains and protects the bearing.
I agree that the only reason to do the domed surface was to align the screw in the vice. It's a simple and clever way to do it that I haven't seen on other vises, however it leaves a lot to be desired in terms of a bearing surface. I like the idea of the tapered roller thrust bearings, and did look into them when I placed an order for parts with McMaster. The issue is that they appear to be around .5" thick in the size I need and McMaster doesn't stock them in that size, so I'd need to look elsewhere.

My initial thought is that .5" is a lot of material to remove.
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However the bore is .75" deep and the current recess is .125 so I could remove .25" and still have plenty of material left on the dynamic jaw side.
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I could then take .25" off of the screw head as well to make up the .5" needed, but once again I need to get the lathe up and running to do that.
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I listed the cabinet saw this weekend on FB, so once that sells, I'll move the bikes to where it sat, and then ideally put the lathe where the bikes currently reside, but I'm a bit stuck until the saw is gone.

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I ordered a Bronze thrust bearing to use as a domed thrust bearing a new spring and some thrust washers for 2 other bike projects. That should all arrive tomorrow, but the way this week is going it will be next week before I can realistically get anything done. So is life.

I like your idea of the thrust bearing inside of the adapter, but I'd still need to account for the rounded section of the screw head. So its easier to just bore the Jaw to accept the bearing and then machine the screw head flat.
 
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