@Mr.zippy, those shenanigans have been going on my whole life. My parents, brother and I living in an Oldsmobile and 15-foot trailer for 75 days at a time led me to me taking my family of four camping on islands carrying two weeks' supplies, tent and canvas dining room, all stuffed into on a 19-foot speedboat with a big chunk of that space filled with a Ford 302.Bob, my good friend would call that load in (on) the car a Blivet......10 gallons of **** in a 5 gallon bucket. I suspect we are all guilty of those shenanigans!
Emil, it's hard for me to tell if any of it stuck. I know his wife was grateful for the chairs. As to the bungee cord collection, only thing I'm sure of is that he has at least two now.I guessing your Grandson picked up a number of logistical solutions from his Grandpa during the patio furniture Jenga tournament. Best of all over supper he probably commented favourably about his Grandpa Bob to his wife. I’m betting their garage will be sporting some stretchy bungee cords displayed prominently in his garage on your next visit.
Geoff, you will have those moments of regret for as long as you live without a replacement. At least you have the trailer.You guys discussing the benefits of having a vehicle that can haul stuff around is making me pine for my decrepit old truck, The Eyesore.
Bob knows the story but for the rest of you...
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...bourne-australia.383366/page-24#post-11017046
Kay, from the time we married in 1962 until we left New York in 1975, we had a trailer. It was registered as "Homad" and was built by a guy who worked for either Grumman or Republic aviation. He put the front suspension from an old car that had the straight axle and parallel leaf springs under a 4.5'x8.5' wooden frame and 2" galvanized pipe for the hitch. It also had 2x12 sides, front and tailgate with T-hinges. It was all bolted together with fancy stainless hardware from the aircraft assembly line where he worked (I still have a few in my hardware bins). Before we inherited it there was a conestoga-style canvas roof to protect camping gear. I tricked IBM paid to shipping two cars, a canoe, sailboat and 19-foot speedboat on a 23' tandem axle trailer from New York to Florida, along with all our household possessions. It was the last time IBM paid for more than one recreational item when moving people around. Some people got around the restriction by using the Turducken system (if you wrapped it all in one tarp, they paid to move it). That beat up little utility trailer was gifted to a neighbor before the move. I do miss it.The other solution, though not as cool, is to own a trailer that can carry as much as a pickup truck. Then even little 2.0l Escapes can haul plywood or appliances or 2800 lbs of scrap or Dingos.
Gerard, when I bought the PT Cruiser I was amazed at the interior capacity. Just shy of a full 4x8 but I've moved a lot of bulky stuff in it. About five years ago my dearest neighbors moved to Delaware to be closer to their kids. He had a nice bare-bones Silverado that I could have used but never did.I’ve always driven a trucks while the wife driven a sedan until I convinced here to get a small SUV. Now she won’t drive anything else. My wife’s Sorrento would hold 6 foot items from IKEA. Even something like a PT Crusier or Toyota Scion are very capable of hauling items instead of the dreaded mini van. When I first met my father-in-law, I laughed that they drove a minivan. That’s until I saw how he used it. It was quite amazing how much stuff we loaded in there when they took their month long trips to New Smyrna Beach. He had no issues putting his surfcasting rods in there.

Andrew, a utility trailer is a truly valuable thing. I was all ready to put a hidden hitch on the PT Cruiser but realized the real problem is hiding the trailer. I already have bulging garage, workshop and attic as well as an overflow cloth wedding chapel.And that is my solution.
Leonard, I think the gun I had to carry for the Post Office was a Colt revolver. Probably a .32 but I was warned that firing it would probably kill me. My death was not the issue if the registered pouch I was delivering survived.Bob,
There is an old say. "Fear the man with one gun. He knows how to use it."
When I had to carry a gun, I carried a 1911. The Sargent said to me, "That's intimidating." (Most guys carried S&W model 27s.)
I was recently visiting a buddy at his office and he carries a 1911. Couple of Government guys came by. One of them said, "That's old school. Cocked and locked." They asked what I carried so I pulled out my cell phone.
Kay, does Colt or Smith and Wesson make a cell? Never mind, I'd hear it ring and blow my brains out answering it.Same for me. When it was my job, it was a 1911. Nowadays it's a cell.
Hewey, you have the best of both worlds. a nice all-wheel wagon and a trailer. If you acquire something so large you can't home in that rig, you probably need a bigger home as well.Ah the un-ending joy of watching someone else try and cram slightly too big things into slightly too small a car. I was just having this conversation with a mate recently who took his 90s GMC pickup to do an Ikea run to help his kids, and the envious looks he got from people trying to stuff things into small and mid sized SUVs which actually dont have that much capacity. As a family growing up we always has Mitsubishi vans, first a beige 80s one, then a 90s white one. When my step brothers were on board it had it had to haul 2 adults, 5 kids, and camping gear. You don't realise how much packing a vehicle is a skill, until you're with someone who has no experience, and the first thing they hand you is a pillow and not the big box beside itI'm not able to get a van the way my work car lease works, but a Subaru wagon can haul a hell of a lot of stuff and my trailer takes care of everything else.
Hi Bro! Andy, is that really you or are you the Prince who asked for my PIN?Hi Bob...
Be careful Rick, you never know whose identity has been stolen or who stole it.Wait? What?? Bob's brother is back??@oldironfarmer Good to see you, Andy. I've been lurking about these parts myself. And made a mess of things.. ha, just kidding.
Philip, at IBM, that little book was a godsend because I also had to follow the rules in The Chicago Manual of Style [1,192 pages]. When I went to work for AOL the manager of the publications department required her writers to follow the MLA (Modern Language Association) Style Manual [343 pages]. I couldn't understand why she chose that until someone mentioned she had never worked as a technical writer. She was an English teacher AOL hired to do some editing. While I was working on the 800 page Mac API draft, she was marking up my 800 page Windows API draft with tens of thousands of red pencil markings. The red marks indicated where my draft had two spaces instead of one, 13-point type instead of 12, Ariel font instead of Times New Roman, italics instead of bold and thousands of other nits. She had no clue regarding content or accuracy. She had no idea how to use Windows Word or Apple Pages and had no clue how global changes worked.Elements of Style is a book that I got from my older brother who had a degree from Syracuse in journalism. He gave it to me my senior year of high school when I was getting ready to go to college and I still have it 55 plus years later. That is a great reference work for her.
I carry probably seven or eight ratchet straps that I used to hold things in my pickup truck. Your use of bungee cords probably is admired at the big box of stores when you secure things and leave while SUV folks are trying to get their loads secured.
I knew it Andy! That WAS you flipping the lights on and off.I never went anywhere...
Andy, it's 1,419 miles so I should be there by Memorial Day. I'm not fond of walking in the rain so it might be closer to Labor Day. Will you be home for either of those holidays? I don't want to interfere with plans you've already made. Oh, and how long is the 'loan' good for?Hey Bob, I've got all three pickups sitting in the yard. If you would just walk over I'd loan you one, any time.
@Adaylate, I don't know about bungees but I am absolutely certain a couple of my eye surgeons used fish hooks (at least they were barbless). Dumbest thing I did was ask Liane to tweeze the itchy black things out of my eye -- they wereBob,
Wife's cousin, the eye surgeon, says " bungees and fish hooks pay the bills in this house".
Be careful out there!
Alan, you're absolutely right. As I was hooking the second bungee I thought: "I should really use a ratchet strap." It was truly a passing thought as I had an image of a the Adirondack chairs still jammed in the trunk when we arrived on Saturday. My confidence in my grandson's ability to undo a ratchet strap was not high.Famous last words, "yep, that ought to hold it." ie, bungees and tiedown use.
@Mr.zippy, our grandson and his family moved to Boca Raton the day after Christmas 2024. The duplex they rent is 2.2 miles from our driveway and only one short section has a speed limit over 30mph. Even the three blocks with a 45mph limit involves slowing down for the left turn and the traffic gods smiling on him with the very brief left turn green arrow. In 28 years I think it's happened to me twice. I knew it was a gamble but he managed to get home and all five Adirondack chairs were on the shared pool/patio."That ain't goin nowhere"
I go to bed between 1:00 and 2:00 AM and get up 8 hours later. Liane doesn't actually sleep but she and Jasmine go to bed at 9:00 PM and Jasmine gets her up between 9:00 and 10:00 AM. My "OO-OO-Stayin Alive" machines interfere with Liane's ability to sleep soundly so I've exiled myself to the guest bedroom at the other end of the house where my office is also located. If I stay on that side of the house, Jasmine is fine. If I walk toward the master suite, she starts barking and wakes Liane up. I've always been a night owl -- it's quiet and gives me time to think.Geeze Bob, it's like midnight thirty in God's waiting room....what time do you go to bed?![]()

Philip, when we bought our current home in November 1996. We weeded and covered the corner of the back yard that was under gigantic Benjamina Ficus. The area had a low hedge on one side and lots of tropical plants but it needed furniture. Really nice furniture was not an option because...Adirondack chairs are comfortable, but I find them difficult to arise-from one. I have to scoot all the way forward and then push-up with both arms to get to my feet.
I think you may have mentioned that the chairs were plastic ones, and not wood? The tree product 'wood' be significantly more-difficult to transport, being heavy and bulky. I still have a long leg scar from sitting on one of those stacking resin chairs, which promptly snapped a leg (of the chair not me), and partially filleted my medial aspect of my lower leg. I could have gone to the ER for sutures, but we were in Gainesville FL celebrating our son's law school graduation, so I used sterile 4x4's and adhesive tape to patch things up so we didn't have to leave the celebration. You can still see the scar beside my calf muscle. I have no permanent damage but I don't trust those resin chairs.
When I was in Boy Scouts, we used to spend a summer vacation (not 'all summer') at Tupper Lake, where the camp was. I still have my leather patch for a '50 Mile Hike,' done in the Adirondacks, where we summited Mt. Marcy, the tallest peak in NYS. It's 5.344 ft above sea level. The Appalachians were once the size of the Rockies, but because they're older, they weathered, and now less-tall than the Rockies peaks. The time spent in Tupper Lake was great fun and I still refer to a mixed-powder beverage like Kool Aid or tea as 'bug juice,' which is what the Boy Scouts called the dining hall beverages we were served, your choice of lemonade or iced tea, 'bug juice.' I've gotten my youngest grandsons to refer to powdered drinks as 'bug juice,' making me smile every time they refer to it as that.
I have a trailer which was partially-built when I bought it, it was a tilting hot-dip galvanized frame boat trailer, probably for something 15' or 16' long. It was a 2x8" flatbed, and I added low PT 2-by sides to it. It's paid for itself many times over. I bought it off 'Bargain Trader,' ($75) before the internet was a shopping place. It's probably close-to 30 years old in my ownership, and still going strong. I replaced the tires about a year ago because of age. It got a new axle, wiring, galvanized wheels, hubs, bearings and Bearing Buddies when I bought it. It doesn't go into the water. It's a flatbed trailer w/low sides, and I've hauled over a ton w/it, the trailer alone is 500 lbs. I adapted some chain-link panels to the front end and the sides if I want to haul a lot of brush. No c/l sides in this pic. On the way to the Miami-Dade Co. dump here, after demo-ing another bathroom down to the CBS walls or frame walls, or some combo thereof. This was a 1-ton ticket at the landfill.
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@gman007, I'm glad my core dumps are appreciated. I do them to share my happiness and it exercises my 'cognitively impaired' old brain. I do love being diagnosed with that impairment because it's such a great explanation of my screwups.Bob
Thank you for all the great stories which as always are entertaining and in many cases also educational and informative at the same time.
You also take the time and effort to respond in detail to every post and that is very kind and thoughtful of you.

Thank you Alan.Hey Bob, Good on you for setting the bar high for kindness and relating good news.






Kay, that's a good idea. When they built the house the sprinkler system installer thought it was a good idea to bury the gate valve that shuts water off to the whole system. When we bought the house I thought there was no shutoff valve but did a little digging and built a pressure treated box around the valve. When we fancied up the patio with Travertine marble, I fancied up the box in the photos with leftover pieces of marble. For about as long as it takes for a bullet to pass through m brain, I thought of gluing pieces of Travertine together to make the little house. Little worm in my brain said: "Are you nucking futs, you have trouble lifting a can of Diet Coke!"Now you get to make a little house for the valves, etc. I find that shelter prolongs the life of plastic things.

"That ain't goin nowhere"

That's mine and my son's favorite quote. We always grab whatever it is and say, "that's not goin' anywhere".I think it started when he was young and we would be loading the snowmobiles or sand toys in the trailer and I'd grab a strap and say, "that's not goin' anywhere". Then he'd do the same thing and we'd chuckle about it.
Funny story, a few weeks ago I was helping my son out by taking his Jeep to get the emissions test done on it as he was laid up. When I returned and pulled it in his garage, my DIL brought my grandson out to the garage when he heard the door open. He wanted to see "Papa" and came out to see me. I noticed that my son finally got the vise that I gave him for his birthday a couple years earlier mounted to his workbench. I walked over and grabbed it and tugged on it and without even thinking just said, "that's not going anywhere". My DIL started laughing and when I asked her what was so funny she informed me that my son had done the EXACT same thing when he mounted it.
So obviously it has stuck with him even to this day.![]()
I buy little deck boxes for equipment shelters for things like that. They have all kinds of sizes.Kay, that's a good idea. When they built the house the sprinkler system installer thought it was a good idea to bury the gate valve that shuts water off to the whole system. When we bought the house I thought there was no shutoff valve but did a little digging and built a pressure treated box around the valve. When we fancied up the patio with Travertine marble, I fancied up the box in the photos with leftover pieces of marble. For about as long as it takes for a bullet to pass through m brain, I thought of gluing pieces of Travertine together to make the little house. Little worm in my brain said: "Are you nucking futs, you have trouble lifting a can of Diet Coke!"



Dad's Bernzomatic torch was from the EJ Korvette's in Paramus, NJ. I never heard the store's origin story before, very cool.Sometimes you lose and sometimes you win but two wins is a lot of happiness to add to my bucket.
I have a small SunJoe hedge trimmer that uses a 24-volt battery unlike anything else I own. It has worked OK but I would prefer a Milwaukee Fuel M12 hedge trimmer, based on how well their tools work. Found a refurbished one on eBay for $127 and expected to receive it Monday. UPS supposedly received it on 2/19 in Arlington, Texas and claims it isn't there. UPS notified me a jug of dish washing liquid was destroyed in transit last week. Not sure what's going on at UPS but I'm seeking refunds from both sellers. The sellers have some kind of insurance but it doesn't apply to me.
I have been gifted a BernzOmatic torch kit and a bunch more treasures, including a pair of oil squirt cans. The BernzOmatic case is in perfect condition and although used, all the pieces are in great shape.
At least as interesting as it's condition is its origin and price. It was purchased at E.J. Korvettes for $5.44 and that would have included the tank full of propane.
BACKSTORY: As an 11 year old in February 1956, it was a huge deal when the E. J. Korvette discount department store opened in West Islip, New York, one town west of where we lived. I rode my bike there to buy things for a lot less than any other store in the area. With my allowance of 25¢, 25¢ an hour for assisting on my father's big projects (earthworks and basement finishing) and the fall smortune I made handling half my brother's newspaper route (had to be 12 to be a Newsday delivery boy), I could afford important stuff, like handle bar grip streamers for my bike and AMC and Revell plastic car models for my imaginary garage. The discounts, typically 30%, made a huge difference to me.
DISAPPOINTMENT: E. J. Korvette was founded 1948 by two Jewish men (Eugene Ferkhauf and Joe Zwillenberg), two years before the start of the Korean War. Not knowing any better, everyone I knew believed the name was an acronym for 'Eight Jewish Korean War Veterans'. According to one of its founders, Eugene Ferkhauf (who died in 2012) they named the chain with the two founders' first name initials and a play on "corvette", a type of sub-destroyer in the the Royal Canadian Navy. War time restrictions on the commercial use of military terms were still in force, so the name had to be modified with a K...into "Korvette." Call me disappointed because I loved the urban legend story better.
Back to the gifted kit, which includes a BernzOmatic branded lighter but sadly the flint is completely worn out. Undeterred I ordered five new BernzOmatic branded flints for $8.70. I expected to receive a small envelope from Amazon but instead received a huge box that seemed way too heavy. Instead of a little pack of flints, I received this:
It's a BernzOmatic JT680 torch. Before reading the invoice, my kind and honest brainworm suggested I notify the seller of the mistake. After I read the invoice: "ACCOUNT SET TO NO BACK ORDER -- ALL PRODUCT NOT IN STOCK WILL BE CANCELLED" my unkind and greedy brain worm said: "Keep it and order more flints." I'm excited to see what this new order brings. My bucket has overflowed!
Alan, that's a great solution and I like your style.Bob, I constructed a seasonal use cover for the water faucet at the front of our house with this stuff.
It's super easy to work with. I made a little doghouse cover and it has worked as a safety measure for me during colder winters. It's easy to work with and one could glue it and screw it together to construct, whatever. reasonably tough and light.![]()
Owens Corning FOAMULAR NGX F-250 2 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. SSE R-10 XPS Rigid Foam Board Insulation 52DDNGX - The Home Depot
Owens Corning FOAMULAR Scored Squared Edge Insulation Sheathing is perfect for use on wood, steel framing or concrete walls.www.homedepot.com![]()
Mike, the same words have come of my mouth, my son's mouth and grandson's mouth. I haven't heard it yet but I expect at least one of my great grandsons will say it (two are six and the third is two). The other often heard saying in our family is: "That's gonna leave a mark (or scar)!"That's mine and my son's favorite quote. We always grab whatever it is and say, "that's not goin' anywhere".I think it started when he was young and we would be loading the snowmobiles or sand toys in the trailer and I'd grab a strap and say, "that's not goin' anywhere". Then he'd do the same thing and we'd chuckle about it.
Funny story, a few weeks ago I was helping my son out by taking his Jeep to get the emissions test done on it as he was laid up. When I returned and pulled it in his garage, my DIL brought my grandson out to the garage when he heard the door open. He wanted to see "Papa" and came out to see me. I noticed that my son finally got the vise that I gave him for his birthday a couple years earlier mounted to his workbench. I walked over and grabbed it and tugged on it and without even thinking just said, "that's not going anywhere". My DIL started laughing and when I asked her what was so funny she informed me that my son had done the EXACT same thing when he mounted it.
So obviously it has stuck with him even to this day.![]()
Dennis, thanks for that! Liane and I watched the movie last night. Willem Dafoe was 44 in the movie and he'll turn 70 this year. It was Boston Irish homage to Pulp Fiction.That expression makes me think of The Boondock Saints movie
@Mr.zippy, I never have a clue where my mind or thread is headed so it's impossible to hijack.Mike, I had to laugh at your story! That is the exact joke my son and I use when we strap something down! Years ago, we were traveling somewhere and a riding lawn mower was in the barrow ditch. A guy in a pickup was parked down the road and was walking back to his busted up mower. My son said "that ain't goin nowhere" and we bust out laughing as I turned around to help him out.
Edit...sorry to hijack your thread Bob!
Kay, I have a small deck box for the 5-gallon pail of chlorine tablets, bags of shock treatment, extra hose sections for the pool cleaner and all the O-rings and accessories for the pool. It has seen better days but I'm waiting for it to break before I replace it.I buy little deck boxes for equipment shelters for things like that. They have all kinds of sizes.

Howard, looks like the Paramus store opened in 1967.Dad's Bernzomatic torch was from the EJ Korvette's in Paramus, NJ. I never heard the store's origin story before, very cool.
I'm still working on a post about my trip to FL and meeting you and Liane.
Dennis, I came across this tidbit that shows how good prices were at Korvettes.We had a Korvettes in Pa where I grew up. Great store

Kay, we sat down at the kitchen table every few months and filled stamp books (yellow and green) my grandmother gave me a Disston handsaw as a housewarming gift in July 1966. She cashed in her green stamps to get it and it meant everything to me. It was way better than the hand made mittens I always got for Christmas.We had a Korvette in Colonie, at the Northway Mall. We had a Two Guys in Menands, a Westons and a JM Field in Latham. And of course, all the obligatory Woolworths, Grants, Neisners, Kmarts, Kresges, Jupiters, and all the different color trading stamp redemption centers. I do so miss them all.
@PhantomEB, my very first job that I quit at the end of hte second day made me keenly aware I could be jobless at any moment. I worked as hard as I could my whole life and never felt secure. The day I quit my last job in 1999 I felt a sudden sense of security because I had my pension, retirement accounts and savings with no mortgage, no car payments and all our bills (including credit cards) paid on time (mostly automatic). The relatively low stress in my life has likely helped me check that 'octogenarian' box.After this recent job scare, the wife said well at least the trailers be the first to go to make payments if need be….then I said yup but be warned if I sell, I will only buy bigger more than likely.
The things that are price less to me, the ability not to depend on anyone else, as well my truck and trailers
That is a magnificent solution. Up here, we don't use anything like that. At least that I'm aware of. I'm not sure I've ever seen one of those. If I buried that in my yard, it'd be on the surface in a year or two.I would have to do a lot of hacking to make one fit the space where it needs to go, The jumbo valve box I bought for $45 will need only one modification so it slips over the Liquid Tight conduit. I believe I have a 90° fitting to eliminate the big loop. The box is low enough to fit under the rack holding the storm shutter angle aluminum. The lid will allow me to get at the valve without having to move the box (it has no bottom). The box does have two slots to drop over 2" PVC pipes on the ends so may pop rivet some stuff to deter rodent squaters to set up housekeeping.
Those boxes are all over here (SC & GA), they usually house our water meters. With no frost line, to speak of, our water lines are all near the surface. The occasional deep freeze usually finds me insulating the meter and pipes inside that box. From experience (not mine, but my neighbor) I can confidently affirm that's where the pipes will burst from the cold.That is a magnificent solution. Up here, we don't use anything like that. At least that I'm aware of. I'm not sure I've ever seen one of those. If I buried that in my yard, it'd be on the surface in a year or two.
that’s exactly the words I been thinking in my head right now, now your words bolstered them up. Sure can’t wait for my Tax return and paycheck this week, straight to killing some room in a credit card, might even cut the small one in half as it’s an emergency one that I can use at Costco.@PhantomEB, my very first job that I quit at the end of hte second day made me keenly aware I could be jobless at any moment. I worked as hard as I could my whole life and never felt secure. The day I quit my last job in 1999 I felt a sudden sense of security because I had my pension, retirement accounts and savings with no mortgage, no car payments and all our bills (including credit cards) paid on time (mostly automatic). The relatively low stress in my life has likely helped me check that 'octogenarian' box.
@PhantomEB, there are three cars in our garage: 1987 Corvette convertible, 1972 Corvette coupe (454 automatic) and a 2011 Cadillac CTS-V. The '87 Vette and '11 -V make me feel young and stupid again. The '72 Vette has refurbished running gear from front to back, coilover suspension all around, hydroboost power brakes, custom exhaust system and a rack & pinion steering conversion. When I want to relieve stress I spend a few hours making nearly zero progress on the '72. Focusing on the car all but eliminates other thoughts or worries.low stress for me would have another bronco for me and a VW for her.

Bob
I can lost foam cast that into aluminum...Bob, I constructed a seasonal use cover for the water faucet at the front of our house with this stuff.
It's super easy to work with. I made a little doghouse cover and it has worked as a safety measure for me during colder winters. It's easy to work with and one could glue it and screw it together to construct, whatever. reasonably tough and light.![]()
Owens Corning FOAMULAR NGX F-250 2 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. SSE R-10 XPS Rigid Foam Board Insulation 52DDNGX - The Home Depot
Owens Corning FOAMULAR Scored Squared Edge Insulation Sheathing is perfect for use on wood, steel framing or concrete walls.www.homedepot.com![]()
@Bob Heine the mental health benefit of owning old cars.When I want to relieve stress I spend a few hours making nearly zero progress on the '72. Focusing on the car all but eliminates other thoughts or worries.
I regularly have someone call me and insist I go back to work for them. I've boiled it down to "You'll want me to talk to people I don't like", they agree and understand.Bob,
Collecting a retirement check (almost) as long as you were employed by the company!
You're my hero.
I only know one person personally that has accomplished that.
Too many guys I worked with stayed too long, had no life outside work, couldn’t give up the OT, etc. etc.
The last guy I worked with that retired lived less than 6 months.
He could have left 10 years ago when I did. Sad!
I didn’t start at the company until I was almost 30, retired before I was 60.
I wouldn’t trade the last 10 years for any amount of money I might have earned.
People used to tell me “you retired too soon”.
I responded with, “My mom died at 62 and my wife’s mother died at 42, so please don’t try to convince me of that”
Kay, those boxes are pretty common in the south. They are thick HDPE and the tapered sides and turned up bottom edge helps keep them secured in the ground in warm climates. You are right, just like shingles, frost doesn't care. If you like different colors, they make tan boxes to blend in with sandy soil and offer purple lids for recycled non-potable water systems (the purple lids have the warning embossed in the cover).That is a magnificent solution. Up here, we don't use anything like that. At least that I'm aware of. I'm not sure I've ever seen one of those. If I buried that in my yard, it'd be on the surface in a year or two.
Lou, the only time we had a problem was back in the early '80s. It got below freezing and the copper line leading to the solar hot water system on the patio roof burst. The company I bought it from fixed the leak and added a sensor that turned the pump on when it got below freezing. Kinda defeated the whole purpose of the system by adding freezing water to the 80-gallon storage tank. That whole system soured me on solar anything. The sales pitch said my electric bill would drop and the government tax credit would offset most of the cost of the system. Three years after I filed for the credit, which did lower my taxes, a letter from the IRS denied the credit because the 80-gallon tank had an electric heater as a backup. In addition to paying the tax back, there was three years of interest and underpayment penalties added on. The solar company was long gone but the company that bought them out reminded me that I was 'leasing' the system and had to pay the full cost of the system (minus depreciation) to avoid the lease payment doubling. The whole lease clause was buried in the contract and claimed it would be waived based on the down payment I paid.Those boxes are all over here (SC & GA), they usually house our water meters. With no frost line, to speak of, our water lines are all near the surface. The occasional deep freeze usually finds me insulating the meter and pipes inside that box. From experience (not mine, but my neighbor) I can confidently affirm that's where the pipes will burst from the cold.
Lou Manglass
Cody, Liane liked the Buick's ride and its looks but her favorite boat was the Ford Crown Victoria I rented in California back in the mid-'90s. She liked that one even better than the Lincoln Town cars we had in the '70s. I thought she would like the Cadillac CTS-V but says it rides too 'rough' (she has no idea the car has a 'sport' mode setting that I never use when she's in the car) and the Recaro seats are not comfortable, even after I spent 45 minutes adjusting the height, tilt and lumbar support to suit her. Feels like some kind of passive agressive thing because I told her I'd sell the car and get something she likes better and her response was: "No, I know how much you love this car" with that 'so I'll suffer to make you happy' part left unspoken.I do like the rides of Buicks and Oldsmobiles from the late 80's and early 90's. with the 3.8L it was a reliable car and easy to work on if it needs it. The hood on the Buick was the kind that tilted forward, not too much of an issue working in the engine bay but wasn't the easiest though.
Edit cause I think it was the Buick that tilted forward and not the Oldsmobile, been almost 20 years since I’ve worked on them.
@gman007, Liane learned to park a car using the concrete parking stop to be sure the boat (Lincoln Town Car) was as far into the space as possible. I put Eibach lowering/stiffer springs on the PT Cruiser because the stock stance displeased me. The front springs lowered the car enough so the air dam under the front bumper cover would scrape over the stop and snap free when the tires hit the stop. Backing out would tear the cover off the side mounts. A small piece of angle aluminum and pop rivets made the bumper cover repair a quick job. I did the job often enough that I stored diagonal cutters, a bunch of rivets, and a cheap tool to set them in the bag that held the necessities (fire extinguisher, blanket for accident victims, HF $10 air compressor, ratchet wrench, ratchet straps, etc.). By the third or fourth episode the cover was in bad shape so I replaced it. Paid a local body shop to paint it.Bob
The PT Cruiser is immaculate and looks like it just came out of show room but then again, one would not expect anything less knowing it is yours!




Andy, that would make an amazing hat for me to wear out in the sun. Might have to round off the edges and then sand and buff it to a brilliant shine.I can lost foam cast that into aluminum...
@kitdoctor, there's also the weight savings -- it keeps my wallet very thin and ligt weight.@Bob Heine the mental health benefit of owning old cars.
@Jgaz, it was the best decision of my life.Bob,
Collecting a retirement check (almost) as long as you were employed by the company!
You're my hero.
I only know one person personally that has accomplished that.
Too many guys I worked with stayed too long, had no life outside work, couldn’t give up the OT, etc. etc.
The last guy I worked with that retired lived less than 6 months.
He could have left 10 years ago when I did. Sad!
I didn’t start at the company until I was almost 30, retired before I was 60.
I wouldn’t trade the last 10 years for any amount of money I might have earned.
People used to tell me “you retired too soon”.
I responded with, “My mom died at 62 and my wife’s mother died at 42, so please don’t try to convince me of that”


Andy, no one has ever asked me to go back to work for them. I feel awful that I don'tI regularly have someone call me and insist I go back to work for them. I've boiled it down to "You'll want me to talk to people I don't like", they agree and understand.
Emil, it's always amazing to learn how many things we have in common. I've decided to leave our vehicles to our son. At 61 he knows how to use the appropriate tools. It's his decision to share the fleet with others but even our youngest grandson is 22 and working in the family construction business: Heine Site Construction.Bob, I see so many parallels in our lives. Reasons for early retirement, travel, brother’s suicide and of all things bumpers. Oh by the way your Great Granddaughter is a cutie. For me that would be probably 20 years down the road but who knows. I do know where my convertible is going, so now to try and educate my Grandson that most problems don’t have to be solved with a hammer.![]()
Jon, it could be a ruse to move them up to the top of our wills but I'm going with 'they like us.'Bob,
Your great-granddaughter is a cutie!
I see she was named to honor both you and Liane! COOL!

I thought perhaps the problem was the brand, FORTX405 flints, so I ordered another five-pack of BernzOmatic brand flints from Amazon:


