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Are consumer grade SLA battery-based jump starters now obsolete?

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Years ago, before LiOn-based jump starters came out, I bought an SLA-based jump starter just prior to undertaking a cross-country drive, as a precaution. It was a Peak unit from Pep Boys with a built-in inflater and light, no inverter but with a 12V cigarette port. It worked fine for several years, until the inflater broke and then the battery died. I replaced the battery and it worked for another few years, until it too died, as that's the norm with these small SLA batteries, which are also used in home UPS units and need replacing every few years. I got quite a few uses out of it over the years.

I've since then switched to LiOn-based jump starters, and have several, and have been very happy with them. I also got several standalone inflaters which have worked well. What I'm wondering is whether it's worth getting a new battery for the SLA-based unit, at around $20, or just junking it. Is there ever a use for one where it works better than a LiOn-based one? Say, in very cold weather where there LiOn one is always in the trunk, and I'm parked at home? I'd never put the SLA one in the trunk as it's too big and heavy, so it would stay in a shed or indoors. I just hate throwing out devices that are otherwise in good condition.

Would plugging an inverter into it to charge power tool batteries while working on my car on the street work, or would that be too inefficient to be worth it? All my tools are M12 and I have one of nearly every battery size they make. Would I be able to power a corded angle grinder from it, using an inverter? I have one of those basic HF ones that used to cost only $10. Never used it though.
 
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The Lithium based ones are (typically) BOOST ONLY ! Good for a couple of "shots" and then they need to be recharged. They probably will not work for any extended (minutes) period of time.

The amazing thing is, they stay fully charged for a long time when not used ! (LiFePO4 are "safer" than plain LiOn).
 

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The Lithium based ones are (typically) BOOST ONLY ! Good for a couple of "shots" and then they need to be recharged. They probably will not work for any extended (minutes) period of time.

The amazing thing is, they stay fully charged for a long time when not used ! (LiFePO4 are "safer" than plain LiOn).
What they **** at is staying in your trunk for extended periods of time at +110F temperatures which is pretty much all the time here in Phoenix. What I have found works best here is jump starters based on a Supercapacitor. Less affected by our extreme heat.
 

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What they **** at is staying in your trunk for extended periods of time at +110F temperatures which is pretty much all the time here in Phoenix. What I have found works best here is jump starters based on a Supercapacitor. Less affected by our extreme heat.

Bingo on both points. Besides the safe storage aspect (except for LiFePO4, I'd probably not even want them (Li-Ion) in my hot car... when I leave them in the vehicle I rarely get more than a year out of them with minimal jumps).
 

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What they **** at is staying in your trunk for extended periods of time at +110F temperatures which is pretty much all the time here in Phoenix. What I have found works best here is jump starters based on a Supercapacitor. Less affected by our extreme heat.
There are a few that have USB-A and USB-C charging ports.

Some can be recharged (slowly) via a USB-C port.
 
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Are consumer grade SLA battery-based jump starters now obsolete?

No. Not at all. Those big and heavy SLA battery jump starter units (like the JNC660) are still used all over the the USA every day by mechanics, auto auctions, car dealers, tow truck drivers, roadside assistance guys, etc.... Sure those little lithium units are nice and light but they typically burn themselves up after a few uses. They're not reliable enough to be used professional on a daily basis. Some guys do use lithium jump starters professionally but most of those guys know they will fail eventually and therefore they keep their old JNC660 for when that happens.

Just my $0.02
 
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Are consumer grade SLA battery-based jump starters now obsolete?

No. Not at all. Those big and heavy SLA battery jump starter units (like the JNC660) are still used all over the the USA every day by mechanics, auto auctions, car dealers, tow truck drivers, roadside assistance guys, etc.... Sure those little lithium units are nice and light but they typically burn themselves up after a few uses. They're not reliable enough to be used professional on a daily basis. Some guys do use lithium jump starters professionally but most of those guys know they will fail eventually and therefore they keep their old JNC660 for when that happens.

Just my $0.02
So looks like it wouldn't be a bad idea to invest $20 or so in a new SLA battery, as backup. I assume that it's ok to store them outside and that so long as they're not too extreme neither cold nor heat will damage them, as with SLA car batteries?
 

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So looks like it wouldn't be a bad idea to invest $20 or so in a new SLA battery, as backup. I assume that it's ok to store them outside and that so long as they're not too extreme neither cold nor heat will damage them, as with SLA car batteries?
As long as the SLA battery is fully charged, freezing won't damage it. If it's discharged and freezes, it's toast.
 

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I keep one of each in truck. The lithium pack might be able to help out a slow cranking tractor engine but the SLA will also power a 12 volt fuel transfer tank pump if needed where the lithium won't come close to being able to. So they guess they both have a purpose but SLA is more useful in my opinion
 
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