More Whatzits--Can we make this the official Whatzit thread?

[larry_g]

Any idea what these are? Look to be old and blacksmith made. The ends overlap and there's a socket on just one handle.

These are bull nose clamps. https://www.google.com/search?q=bul...JEAAYgAQYogSoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

lg
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[ararat]

These are bull nose clamps. https://www.google.com/search?q=bul...JEAAYgAQYogSoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

lg
no neat sig line

The bull nose clamps I've seen have a ball at the tip or rounded tips. These have tapered tips that overlap.

I'm not sold that they are hog catchers either. It doesn't seem like a good way to catch one.

I can't imagine walking up to a bull and putting something in it's nose.

 

[Farmer J.]

These are bull nose clamps. https://www.google.com/search?q=bul...JEAAYgAQYogSoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

lg
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Yup. Nose clamps for a bull have rounded ends.
The blacksmith made whatsit clamps could be used on the end of a bull pole, but those usually have a spring clip. A pole is used when the bull already has a permanent ring in it's nose. Leading it with a pole is safer than using a lead rope on it's ring as it enables one to keep the bull at a distance, also to keep it's head up which prevents it charging at you.
As my teenage daughter once replied to somebody who questioned how she could control a huge animal, she said: "I'm not controlling the whole animal, just it's nose, I can take the end of it's nose wherever I want and the rest of it won't be far away".

 

[Farmer J.]

I can't imagine walking up to a bull and putting something in it's nose.

You have to get it to put it's head through a fence first by giving it some tasty feed, then grab it's nose and fix the clamp. Easiest if the fence has a yoke built in, to close up and hold it's head.

 

[Old Man Roger]

When in doubt, SawSet.

 

[Beerhippie]

I saw them listed for leading bulls somewhere, again thru a nose ring, to keep your distance. I’m no rural expert, so take that into consideration when trusting my reply.

They're stuck into the nostrils of the critter to lead it around--also known as a "persuader". Farm animals have it rough....

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

I can see the hog catcher. Many times, we lassoed one back leg and pull. He goes nowhere.

 

[Beerhippie]

I can see the hog catcher. Many times, we lassoed one back leg and pull. He goes nowhere.

Ever use the bucket trick? Drive a hog in reverse?

PS: A hog can go VERY fast in reverse.

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

Ever use the bucket trick? Drive a hog in reverse?

PS: A hog can go VERY fast in reverse.

Thats why we pulled and kept pulling. But that's the bad part about pigs. They learn fast.

 

[larry_g]

Yup. Nose clamps for a bull have rounded ends.
The blacksmith made whatsit clamps could be used on the end of a bull pole, but those usually have a spring clip. A pole is used when the bull already has a permanent ring in it's nose. Leading it with a pole is safer than using a lead rope on it's ring as it enables one to keep the bull at a distance, also to keep it's head up which prevents it charging at you.
As my teenage daughter once replied to somebody who questioned how she could control a huge animal, she said: "I'm not controlling the whole animal, just it's nose, I can take the end of it's nose wherever I want and the rest of it won't be far away".

I will stand corrected...........

lg
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[Oregon rock crusher]

Here is one I haven't figured out yet. Bought at a thrift shop on spin the wheel Wednesday so a 2 buck wire dispenser after a 50% off spin. Copper coated steel (magnetic) wire on a stamped steel reel that opens up to reload. I thought it was solid copper when I picked it up. Looks to me like it could have been a spool for a mig wire feeder but I've never seen one like it and I can't find a match. Strategic label damage but possibly GERonimo? Co. Inc. Looks like a braided wire on the label art. Pretty sure it's not a sawset....After I use up the wire I'll probably reload the dispenser. Ed.

 

[cvairwerks]

Makes me think tie wire reel....

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

Thats actually a pretty strong theory cvair. Especially given the braided wire image on the emblem. It's pretty soft wire and would hold a bend very well. I have only used common mechanics wire for tying bolt heads together. Never had need for the wire twisting pliers.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

A "Geronimo wire" or "Geronimo line" is a term used on oil derricks. I wonder if it's related. They were anchored between the rig and the earth or the rig and a ship or other floating platform on an oblique angle. It was a quick, desperate, dangerous way to escape when there was some kind of imminent catastrophic mechanical issue. Men would unhook their safety vest and re-hook it on the wire and slide down. Looks pretty thin gauge for that.

 

[cvairwerks]

A Geronimo line on a derrick is going to be 7/16" or 1/2" cable and will be a couple of hundred feet long.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Yes. I wasn't suggesting that was one. Just riffing on the name.

 

[Old Man Roger]

Reminds me of barb wire, but it looks too thin for that.

 

[Beerhippie]

I did used to carry something similar, but not exactly the same for rebar tie wire. The tie wire spool have a belt loop on the back and no central spool as the tie wire draws from the center of the roll. Fancy ones had a built-in cutter that you just wrapped the wire into and pulled to cut to length. Handy when you're looking at tying off what seems like an acre of flatwork.

Jeez--just writing the word flatwork makes my back ache....

 

[Provincial]

The illustration shows a twisted wire, not braided. That would imply solid wire used for "safety" wiring fasteners against backing out.

In aviation, brass was the earliest material for this task. By WWII, stainless wire was entering the market, and soon became standard. I can see copper-plated steel as a wartime substitute, with the copper being an anti-corrosion coating.

By the 1960's stainless wire in 1 lb. cans with a center-pull dispenser were standard. These were single-use, disposable dispensers.

That dispenser would be just the ticket for "mechanic's" wire in the shop.

 

[Beerhippie]

^But again, mechanic's wire (same thing as rebar tie wire) pulls from the center, so wouldn't work if it has a center spool.

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

Well, I looked at a lot of sites for a tie wire dispenser like this but haven't yet found a match. Also considered wire stitching machine dispensers or bobbins but none like this. I'm just guessing at the name Geronimo. German seems to short for the space but I'm sure there are other companies starting with Ger. A couple more pics of the wire dispenser open. The cases fit together very tight but the pin spanner got a good enough grip to open it.

 

[ararat]

Well, I looked at a lot of sites for a tie wire dispenser like this but haven't yet found a match. Also considered wire stitching machine dispensers or bobbins but none like this. I'm just guessing at the name Geronimo. German seems to short for the space but I'm sure there are other companies starting with Ger. A couple more pics of the wire dispenser open. The cases fit together very tight but the pin spanner got a good enough grip to open it.

Could this be wire for electric motors? Like a spool for some kind of winding machine. Just what comes to mind.

 

[Old Man Roger]

The directions have to be a clue?

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

All wire for motors I've seen or heard of just came on spools and never a steel coated wire, assuming the wire is original to the container. That illustration showing the twisted pair is hard to ignore as others have pointed out. I think those directions just say to anchor the dead end of the wire by passing it through one of small holes in the bottom section and bending over. Pretty sure wire for safety tying by twisting is the intention. It is a neat wire dispenser, especially for the smaller gauges, and if I run through it all I'll reload.... Ed.

 

[ararat]

Got this on eBay. It came with the red board. I tried it out on a wider board too. It was sold as a dowel jig. Only problem with that is it slides freely so you would lose that measurement. Seems to be for centering holes in a board, but I haven't seen one like it.

Not marked.

You can loosen one screw to flip the middle part around for different diameters.

 

[Beerhippie]

Here's today's "whatzit":







___ler Bros Co?

I'm thinking stonemason's tool. It's been whaled upon like a mason would whale.

Squares are 1 cm. It's the metric time of the month.

A friend brings stuff he finds from his late father's eclectic stuff over occasionally to puzzle me. This one is a puzzler.

So, in actuality, I'm asking for a friend.

 

[3baygarage]

Heller Bros. "Buffer" or "Clinch Cutter" for trimming hooves and cleaning nail holes.

 

[Outlawmws]

That was fast....

 

[Beerhippie]

Heller Bros. "Buffer" or "Clinch Cutter" for trimming hooves and cleaning nail holes.

From the amount of whaling upon it's suffered, we had some tough horses and mules back then!

 

[d42jeep]

A Bell System tool. Maybe for stripping the covering off of phone wire?
-Don

 

[Mintgrun]

Yes, as seen in the Bell System thread, posts #453 and #464 (which was mine).

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks for that. I may not be using it any time soon but at least I now know what it’s for.

“The slitting tool is for drop wire (the wire that comes from the pole to your house). You slit it back so a few inches of the wires are separated, and then strip a length of insulation off of each, and attach them to the terminals.”

Makes sense to me. They are now posted in the Bell System thread.
-Don

 

[Old Man Roger]

From the amount of whaling upon it's suffered, we had some tough horses and mules back then!

Misused.

 

[Beerhippie]

Misused.

Reckon?

 

[Outlawmws]

Yah! This here be a splitting wedge! See, it has this handy handle!

 

[Beerhippie]

Here are today's "whatzits":



Came in an old (1940s) machinist's chest. Squares are 1/2". Thickness it about 0.19". No markings. The little "tongue" is worn. I'm thinking a shim for something? Please don't say it's an insert for a front sight--it isn't.

A couple of "left-behinds" from today's venture down valley to the Second Hand Antique Tool Museum:



A real head-scratcher. The yoke is hell-for-stout.n The throat is maybe about an inch deep. The shaft is hollow--about 3/8" ID. The knurled part to the right is a pin vise. The knurled part perpendicular to the shaft does absolutely nothing but turn. The gal who runs the shop used Google image look-up and found a couple more for sale (one priced at $250)--which the sellers had no idea what they were.

Here's another:







The tool is about 3 1/2' overall. Hell for stout. The head looks like a can opener, but I tried it on a 55 gallon drum and it don't work, nohow. It has very little wear. No markings, but there was once a decal at the top of the ferrule for the head, w/red and gold extending down the langets. It's $55 bucks.

Have fun, y'all!

 

[Outlawmws]

1: - Lantern heat shield - Not... = No clue
2: - could the pin vise hold a hook? if so a very portable fly tying vise?
3: - Paul Bunyan's tooth pick.

 

[Old Man Roger]

Could # 3 be for cutting sod?

 

[ararat]

From Google

 

[Old Man Roger]

Nice, roof can opener.