air hose

[BurtEggley]

unreal. I have some air hose, Goodyear, 3/8 rubber that has been patched a few times. I thought it might be time to replace it since it is well-over 25 years old. There are 12 - 13 million people in this part of the state within a one to two hour drive. That is over twice as many as in the whole country of Ireland. The soonest I can get one here is about 10 days. Unbelievable. All sorts of Chinese PVC stuff and hybrid stuff available but I really don't want something stiff made of recycled plastics, or that dies within three or four years. Guess I will just rearrange the hoses I have now to put the one used the least on the spool and set the oldest one aside or toss it. Same for Milton high flow V fittings - zip nada, come back in two weeks. I guess I can use HF ones for that but really I feel like I walked into an ice cream parlor and asked for vanilla ice cream, and was told that they have ice milk but I have to special order the vanilla ice cream and come back in a couple weeks. What is wrong with the buyers for all these big chain stores these days. Are they all that generation that chooses things because they are pretty and twinkle, the mommy look at what I finger painted ... yes Jimmy but it looks a lot the one from the other day ... No, mommy, that one I did my hands like this (clockwise) and this one I did my hands like this (counter-clockwise.) My rant is over. Just stunned no one locally has the 3/8" Continental or Goodyear rubber hoses in commonly used 50 lengths.

 

[The Cobbler]

online sales have greatly impacted sales in brick & mortar stores, and thus the stock they carry

 

[Torque&Recoil]

I sympathize. Try Flexzilla. It's flexible and it lasts.

 

[southalabama]

 

[The Cobbler]

Try Flexzilla. It's flexible and it lasts

I had a flexilla hose , one of my least favourites . Tundra by Kuri Tec is miles ahead in my opinion

 

[Spareparts]

I don't like Flexzilla on a reel, put it on a reel, air it up and it pinches sometimes when you air down your system
the the reel will pull the hose a little tighter and pinch the hose. Hanging on the wall no problem.

 

[Hobby_Man22]

online sales have greatly impacted sales in brick & mortar stores, and thus the stock they carry

That's the whole reason I went to online. Got tired of driving to a store or three that didn't have what I needed.

 

[BurtEggley]

That's the whole reason I went to online. Got tired of driving to a store or three that didn't have what I needed.

The online sites were also 7 to 20 days out on 50' 3/8" Continental or Goodyear hose. Just really surprised that something that basic is a rare item. Usually I get stuff in 24 - 48 hours online - even odd things that not many people would be ordering. Probably the retailer's buyer's screw up. Years ago when I worked as a college student in San Diego, the retail company I worked for was centered in Akron Ohio. So every year we would get drop shipped boxes of windshield ice / snow scrapers-brushes. The buyers in Akron would buy crates of them and send boxes to each store to sit near the cash register as an impulse item. Well it does not snow in San Diego, at least where it sticks, and only rarely is there even frost 10 - 15 miles inland. It is like the always 60F to 80F city. I feel like the buyers today are doing the same thing. They see a nice shiny package that costs them $7 and they can sell it for $35, but no one wants it. If I want a cheap hose I go to HF or any one of several other places that sell cheap tools.

 

[PoorUB]

unreal. I have some air hose, Goodyear, 3/8 rubber that has been patched a few times. I thought it might be time to replace it since it is well-over 25 years old. There are 12 - 13 million people in this part of the state within a one to two hour drive. That is over twice as many as in the whole country of Ireland. The soonest I can get one here is about 10 days.

I don't know where you live but all my air hose is from Parker. It is actually rated for oil and 300F and is "push on" hose.. Look up industrial hose supply and see if there is anyone in a reasonable distance. Other than my hose reel all may air hose is over 40 years old and still going strong.

 

[scooby074]

Where did you try? Go to one of the industrial supply houses and they should have something decent on the shelf.

Auto parts stores, at least all but the best local stores, work on a warehouse model where they ship from a local whse overnight. Napa, in my town, ships most things on their own dedicated overnight truck from a wearhouse the next Province over. Have it by noon the next day.

Also many hydraulic shops have quality hose on the shelf. If you have a Parker dealer, their air hoses are top quality, pretty expensive if you are paying yourself though.

Edit: I didnt see UBs post before I wrote mine ! Great minds and all that lol.

 

[BurtEggley]

edit: There is a Parker about 45 minutes away but it is closed until Monday.

My solution: until a time I can get new hoses when I know they will get used immediately and not sit around waiting for me to heal from a surgery I am supposed to be scheduling, I have a yellow 50' 3/8" Goodyear that is also 25 years old but it is rarely used so what I will do is save the black 3/8" 100' that I am using now with automotive style couplers, and replace it with the yellow 50' that I will put Milton V couplers on. There is also a less expensive blue PVC coated 50' 3/8" hybrid hose that is used to cool the air between the compressors and the two inline separators. I will pull that hose off and put a 6' Goodyear 3/8" in its place, and hope that the two separators will still stop most of the moisture. If moisture gets past the separators, I will go back to the longer hose or build a cooler with 1/2" copper tubing. I use two compressors in tandem so the air in the tanks has quite a bit of surface area to cool already. The tanks get drained after each use. (I wanted to get them hydro'd and recertified, but no one does 20 - 30 gallon tanks within a two or three hour drive. Paintball, scuba yes, compressor no)

I ordered several packs of Milton V connectors from Amazon that will be here today with two 6' hoses, to replace the current more restrictive connectors that are on the system now. I also ordered the second 6' Goodyear hose to use as an adapter between the Milton V and my present style automotive couplings that are on the air tools. Most of my air tools don't need that much flow, and many have been replaced with Milwaukee battery tools. The the glass bead machine does need more flow. There is also a 1/2" IR 231 gun that needs a higher flow. The yellow 50' will get the high flow couplings and it will reach anywhere in the garage from the shed where the compressors are. The 100' of hose was mostly used if I was nailing siding on, painting the house, doing fence work, or needed compressed air to blow out the refrigerator coils etc.,, So the end result will be:

* Replace the 100' 3/8" Goodyear hose with a 50' 3/8" Goodyear hose about the same age.
* Replace the 50' 3/8" PVC coated hose used as a cooler before the separators with a 6' 3/8" Goodyear hose.
* Replace the low flow fittings with Milton V higher flow
* Use a 6' adapter hose between the Milton V and the present style couplings I have now on tools that don't need air volume
* Store the longer hoses in case they are needed for something way around on the other side of the house.
* Probably sell the air tools that I do not use enough to justify the space in the overly crowded tool box, or give them to my niece's fiancé if he uses air tools. They lost everything in the LA fires including a Harley he restored. If he doesn't use them then there is always FBM, CL or worst case Goodwill.

 

[OccupantRJ]

Have you ever thought about using a fan blowing on the compressor tank to help with cooling?

 

[finn]

I have pvc, some sort of modified pvc, Flexzilla. And genuine GoodYear.

I prefer the Flexzilla because of the light weight. The Goodyear is ok other than being too damn heavy.

I’ll stick with Flexzilla or one of the other hybrid clones..

Just about anything is better than the hybrid hoses, though.

 

[andyvh1959]

How about a Parker store? All Parker Store locations worlwide feature the complete line of Parker hydraulic and pneumatic and industrial hose product lines.

Contact

Get in touch with Hanley Controls Clonmel Ltd,

www.hccl.ie

 

[scooby074]

edit: There is a Parker about 45 minutes away but it is closed until Monday.

My solution: until a time I can get new hoses when I know they will get used immediately and not sit around waiting for me to heal from a surgery I am supposed to be scheduling, I have a yellow 50' 3/8" Goodyear that is also 25 years old but it is rarely used so what I will do is save the black 3/8" 100' that I am using now with automotive style couplers, and replace it with the yellow 50' that I will put Milton V couplers on. There is also a less expensive blue PVC coated 50' 3/8" hybrid hose that is used to cool the air between the compressors and the two inline separators. I will pull that hose off and put a 6' Goodyear 3/8" in its place, and hope that the two separators will still stop most of the moisture. If moisture gets past the separators, I will go back to the longer hose or build a cooler with 1/2" copper tubing. I use two compressors in tandem so the air in the tanks has quite a bit of surface area to cool already. The tanks get drained after each use. (I wanted to get them hydro'd and recertified, but no one does 20 - 30 gallon tanks within a two or three hour drive. Paintball, scuba yes, compressor no)

I ordered several packs of Milton V connectors from Amazon that will be here today with two 6' hoses, to replace the current more restrictive connectors that are on the system now. I also ordered the second 6' Goodyear hose to use as an adapter between the Milton V and my present style automotive couplings that are on the air tools. Most of my air tools don't need that much flow, and many have been replaced with Milwaukee battery tools. The the glass bead machine does need more flow. There is also a 1/2" IR 231 gun that needs a higher flow. The yellow 50' will get the high flow couplings and it will reach anywhere in the garage from the shed where the compressors are. The 100' of hose was mostly used if I was nailing siding on, painting the house, doing fence work, or needed compressed air to blow out the refrigerator coils etc.,, So the end result will be:

* Replace the 100' 3/8" Goodyear hose with a 50' 3/8" Goodyear hose about the same age.
* Replace the 50' 3/8" PVC coated hose used as a cooler before the separators with a 6' 3/8" Goodyear hose.
* Replace the low flow fittings with Milton V higher flow
* Use a 6' adapter hose between the Milton V and the present style couplings I have now on tools that don't need air volume
* Store the longer hoses in case they are needed for something way around on the other side of the house.
* Probably sell the air tools that I do not use enough to justify the space in the overly crowded tool box, or give them to my niece's fiancé if he uses air tools. They lost everything in the LA fires including a Harley he restored. If he doesn't use them then there is always FBM, CL or worst case Goodwill.

You wont get much cooling using a rubber air hose. A cooler out of copper will be 100x better.

The further away from the tank (the cooler the air) the more effective any filtration will be.

If you were to run 1/2 or 3/4 copper line to one end of your shop, opposite your compressor, and put your filter at that far end, you would have pretty reasonable cooling and water rejection.

You live in the states, so id look into the Harbour Freight refrigerated dryer when it comes on sale.

 

[American Locomotive]

McMaster-Carr. They stock Buna N and EPDM Rubber hoses.

 

[BurtEggley]

McMaster-Carr. They stock Buna N and EPDM Rubber hoses.

I looked, no goodyear or continental, and their prices seemed way high. No doubt they sell good quality but I was not familiar with the brands. i did notice on another site that said their continental hoses were formerly goodyear, implying that continental bought the goodyear unit (Veyance Technologies) that produced hoses. That may be why the two are in shorter supply, I dunno.

 

[American Locomotive]

McMaster typically does not list brand, but they usually also do not sell junk. You can email them and find out what brand they are selling.

 

[BurtEggley]

McMaster typically does not list brand, but they usually also do not sell junk. You can email them and find out what brand they are selling.

all the ones I look at there are in the $175 to $350 for 50'. Generally Goodyear/Continental 50' rubber hose with fittings is $35 to $50 at most retailers.

 

[Torque&Recoil]

I don't like Flexzilla on a reel, put it on a reel, air it up and it pinches sometimes when you air down your system
the the reel will pull the hose a little tighter and pinch the hose. Hanging on the wall no problem.

Yeah, I don't use a reel. Just hang it on a hook !

 

[BillK]

Where exactly do you live and what sources have you tried ???

 

[BurtEggley]

central California Valley. today I inspected my 100' 3/8 hose. The coupling at 50' had a plastic orange bend restrictor on it. I heated that, pulled it off, and instead of a crimp it was two 50' hoses screwed together. I has been 25 years. I thought it had been spliced. I tossed out the 50' PVC coated SWAN hose that was used for cooling because it was starting to swell. Separated the two 50' black Goodyear, and coiled one as a spare and kept the spare yellow one (also Goodyear) also. The yellow one has a splice in it, I knew one did. Anyway, replumbed the system with high flow Milton V fittings that came overnight from Amazon, and made a 6' adapter between the old and new style so my air tools can use the old style except for the 1/2" IR 231. The only thing that I do not like is that I can now see the air when I am using the blow wand, and Milton V takes a lot of force to load it. The output looks a touch smokey just in sunlight. It is either moisture or perhaps oil in the 50' hose that is being pushed out due to the increased flow. Both separators are empty and clear so it may be the latter. I will probably just order a couple 50' Continental rubber ones via Amazon and toss the old ones when they come in weeks from now due to their age.

As for sources, Amazon, Ace, Home Depot, Lowe's, Googled for local compressor stores, McMaster-Carr, Zoro, Tractor Supply, local Napa, AutoZone, etc.. Most have off brands or hybrid pretty colored ones but not the better Goodyear / Continental rubber ones except some if you wait weeks to a month. The compressor store I used to go to went out of business about 15 years ago, along with the best plumbing supply near it etc.. Grainger can get them but not until the middle of next week. I suspect that the Continental purchase of the Goodyear division that makes hoses has disrupted the supply chain temporarily. So I will just order a couple 50' Continental from Amazon and wait until they come in, then toss the old ones. The fences were replaced 2 - 3 years ago and the last fence I put up lasted 28 years, so at 74 I don't think I will ever even need 150' of house again to get to all the fence area (nail gun) or paint the house (I sold the Brinks paint pot and latex gun). Even airing up the cars I have a Milwaukee battery powered compressor now instead of a pony tank or hose dragged out to the driveway. I saw yesterday that the Milwaukee 3/8" impact gun I have has the same rating as their 1/2" gun - all one needs to do is change the anvil from 3/8" to 1/2". So I could even get rid of the IR 231 and buy an anvil kit if I really needed a 1/2" impact. I think the changing technologies has left me acting like a pack rat with certain tools.

Now to find a source for 3/8" bend restrictors.

 

[scooby074]

all the ones I look at there are in the $175 to $350 for 50'. Generally Goodyear/Continental 50' rubber hose with fittings is $35 to $50 at most retailers.

You might want to sit down if you price any of the Parker Push Lok lol .

 

[BillK]

I just got one of these from my local Carquest store to replace an ancient one at the shop. It looks every bit as good and it will take a beating. I think you are worrying too much about getting the Goodyear stuff.

https://www.acmetools.com/plews-3-8-in-x-50-ft-rubber-air-hose-552-50ae/087817552519.html

 

[BurtEggley]

Thank you. Just ordered a Continental 3/8" (bought Goodyear division that made hoses) from Amazon. About 7 - 12 days estimated shipping, maybe more, and another 6' whip to put a motorguard D13 filter inline when lack of moisture is important. Carquest / Advance Auto closed all their stores in California. Going on their website, the closest store to the California Central Valley is Winnemucca NV - about 400 miles each way.

 

[racecougar]

Try putting your zip code into Home Depot's page. This is literally the first result that popped up in a Google search for 50' Goodyear air hose. Looks like it's a 2-day delivery for me.

The Milton V-style fittings are next day delivery on Amazon.

 

[carcruse]

online sales have greatly impacted sales in brick & mortar stores, and thus the stock they carry

Yep, i ordered the exact hose he is looking for from the well known online site on Jah 19 and it was delivered on Jan 23. Price was $34.99 and I added another small item to get the order over $35 to get free shipping.

 

[Chris_Hamilton]

I use air daily in my work. I've noticed a serious drop in quality with air hoses the past few years. FWIW I only use rubber hoses. In the past I would get a solid year or longer out of one. Goodyear, Continental, etc, have had several fail near the fitting (ballooning) in just a short time, usually less than a week. With what I do I don't like to patch hoses with a barb and have to deal with a hose clamp on the end. Gets in the way and is uncomfortable, and can scratch things I'm working on. Getting ready to purchase another one now. Likely will end up spending some $ on a German Sata branded hose. If that one fails I'm going to be PO'ed.

 

[Sumboodie]

I've been running a flex eel for about 15 years. Very happy with it.
Easy to clean too. The rubber hoses seem to soak in oil and grease and are a hassle to clean. The green Flexzilla is super horrible for that!

I got one for at work too after the Goodyear red hose snapped like dry twigs on a -65* day. The flexeel isn't cold proof either, it's hard to roll up when cold, but hasn't snapped apart yet.

Flexeel Hoses

Flexeel Store is your source for the original Flexeel Pneumatic Air Hoses, couplers, Fittings, Lubricants and much more.

www.flexeelstore.com

 

[whateg01]

I know that Amazon stock varies some from location to location, but this is what I see.

 

[carcruse]

I know that Amazon stock varies some from location to location, but this is what I see.

Yes, that is what I bought back in January.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I have Flexzilla, some in an enclosed reel, 2 in open reels and some sections of plain 'zilla hose. I have no issue with any of them.

 

[andyvh1959]

I looked, no goodyear or continental, and their prices seemed way high. No doubt they sell good quality but I was not familiar with the brands. i did notice on another site that said their continental hoses were formerly goodyear, implying that continental bought the goodyear unit (Veyance Technologies) that produced hoses. That may be why the two are in shorter supply, I dunno.

Yes, Veyance bought both Continental and Goodyear at least four years ago. Both Continental and Goodyear are good products (and I retired from Parker). In terms of hose construction, EPDM is generally a better quality hose than Buna N (Nitrile). Same for water hoses, I'd always choose EPDM, especially for anything hot water.

There are cheapo hoses from China, India, Malaysia, Turkey and other locations. But for quality stick with Parker, Continental or Goodyear.