Receptacle/Outlet Needed-Can't find at HD...

[Model A Fan]

I have an plug I need to find for my welder. I couldn't find a corresponding outlet at Home Depot, so I may need to order online. What type/name do you call this one?

Furthermore, the welder runs off 110/220 using different plugs. The Amp draw on 220v is 23.5A do I use a 20A dual pole breaker or a 30A? I have both types, and I've got 12AWG (12/2) and 10AWG (10/2) Romex. The entire run will be under 15' in length.

Thank you!

 

[LellowBabloon]

I believe a NEMA 6-50R receptacle will fit that, which is available at Home Depot. It is a 50 amp receptacle but you will have 10/2 romex wire run to it and have it attached to a 2 pole 30 amp breaker. Because you are protecting the wire with the properly sized breaker the receptacle being 50 amp doesn't matter because you'll never be able to draw more than 30 amps through it. I am not sure why Miller has it stamped for 20 amps, but that's a question for them.

 

[mike93lx]

Welder circuits can use lighter gauge wiring based on duty cycle. I believe at 30%, you can use #12 with a 50a breaker and a 6-50R. #10 is absolutely fine to use though, also with a 50a breaker.

30a breaker would work as well

 

[gimpyrobb]

Try the manual...

 

[larry_g]

Google Search

www.google.com

Search for 6-50R

 

[whateg01]

HD should have it but I'm not sure which store you looked at.

 

[Model A Fan]

I believe a NEMA 6-50R receptacle will fit that, which is available at Home Depot. It is a 50 amp receptacle but you will have 10/2 romex wire run to it and have it attached to a 2 pole 30 amp breaker. Because you are protecting the wire with the properly sized breaker the receptacle being 50 amp doesn't matter because you'll never be able to draw more than 30 amps through it. I am not sure why Miller has it stamped for 20 amps, but that's a question for them.

Thank you, I was looking for one specifically for 20-30A and not something big like a washer/dryer/stove would use.

Based on the Amp designation on the front, I'll do 30A dual pole and 10/2 for wire.

Welder circuits can use lighter gauge wiring based on duty cycle. I believe at 30%, you can use #12 with a 50a breaker and a 6-50R. #10 is absolutely fine to use though, also with a 50a breaker.

30a breaker would work as well

I'll stick with a 30A 220v breaker and 10/2. I use it so seldomly that I'll never exceed the duty cycle.

Try the manual...

Ice had the welder for...7(?) years and it may have gone MIA when I moved.

Google Search

www.google.com

Search for 6-50R

Will do, again that you guys foe the excellent assistance.

HD should have it but I'm not sure which store you looked at.

My problem may have been not knowing what type/shape to look for and the store electrical section being rather picked over...this was in Bellingham.

Thank you to everyone who helped me with the info, I appreciate it.

 

[Metal-Marc]

I was looking for one specifically for 20-30A and not something big like a washer/dryer/stove would use.

NEMA 6-50R receptacle is not for a washer/dryer/stove.

 

[Old tool guy]

The Amp draw on 220v is 23.5A

I believe that’s the output of the welder, not how much power it draws. There should be a data plate where the cord goes into the box, look for “input” on the label. Or read the manual.

 

[whateg01]

... The Amp draw on 220v is 23.5A

I believe that’s the output of the welder, not how much power it draws.

I've welded with 20A before, but that's a pretty wimpy welder if it maxes out at 23A.

 

[Metal-Marc]

I believe that’s the output of the welder, not how much power it draws. There should be a data plate where the cord goes into the box, look for “input” on the label. Or read the manual.

 

[mm08822]

I believe that’s the output of the welder, not how much power it draws. There should be a data plate where the cord goes into the box, look for “input” on the label. Or read the manual.

No. It's max input to provide a max output of 150A to the work piece.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Thank you, I was looking for one specifically for 20-30A and not something big like a washer/dryer/stove would use.

A washer uses a 15 or 20a 120v receptacle and a dryer uses a 120/240v 30a receptacle. neither of those are big.

 

[Old tool guy]

No. It's max input to provide a max output of 150A to the work piece.

According to the data sheet posted by metal-marc … I got lucky again.

 

[u2slow]

I have that exact welder. Been running on #12 wire and a 20A breaker it's whole life.

Duty cycle is the reason it doesn't need #10 wire.

 

[PugetDude]

I have that exact welder. Been running on #12 wire and a 20A breaker it's whole life.

Duty cycle is the reason it doesn't need #10 wire.

Yep. The size of the power cord Miller puts on the 211 should be an indicator that this is all you need.

 

[75gmck25]

I have a dual voltage Lincoln 211 MIG welder and IIRC it only requires a 20 amp breaker and 12 gauge wire if you run it on 240. When I run it on 240 volts I have it plugged into a 6-50R receptacle with a 50 amp breaker, so I'm way over the minimum requirement.

 

[Model A Fan]

Well, I'll stop overthinking this and run 10-2, connect it to a 30A breaker and call it a day. Thank you for the help. Turns out in the few years I've been hoarding electrical stuff for projects, I picked up the proper receptacle somewhere along the way, quite serendipitous.