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The free shipping from KC Tools for Memorial Day was my push over the edge to get the Hazet drain pan I’ve wanted for a while. $18.21 shipped for the pan. It’s a small thing, but that oil filter rest makes it so appealing to me so my filters can be less messy when I toss them out. It also has a decently deep pouring spout… albeit a little small of diameter (probably so you can directly pour back into used bottles).

I wanted one of those for a while, but I already have so many drain pans....
So I grabbed this $2 grate from the paint section of HD and extended one of the legs to work with my bigger pans

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Picked up those Tsunoda pliers that a few others did, really handy for cable ties.

Also picked up some Astro 3/8 Swivel impacts. First tools from Astro - haven't had a reason to try them out yet. They seem nice, smooth and an incredible value compared to the tool trucks for something that is ultimately a wear item.

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In MA, my understanding is that any retailer that sells oil is required to take it back and recycle it. Walmart typically takes it back at the customer service desk area (usually a cart off to the side).

Only one time I've been asked if I bought it there (they may only be obligated to deal with stuff if they've sold it), but no one's ever questioned any of the containers I've brought in (for example, a brand they don't carry).

Not sure if that applies to places with smaller volumes like convenience stores / gas stations (without an attached service garage). Most people probably only buy there in an emergency top-off situation due to the prices, of course.

EDIT: A Google search just led to more confusion. Not Google's fault, it's just MA government at its finest... Apparently, there isn't a law (statute), but a set of DEP regulations that govern this. All retailers are supposed to accept up to 2 gallons per day from each customer, and may require a proof of purchase/receipt.

That last part bothers me the most. If you're serious about keeping this stuff out of landfills/groundwater, don't add stupid hurdles like requiring a receipt.

Back in college, I lived in a house with 4 other guys. We'd pool our oil into a 5-gallon pail, and when full, drop it off at a local garage (late at night). This was before security cameras, I guess.

Mike
 
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That last part bothers me the most. If you're serious about keeping this stuff out of landfills/groundwater, don't add stupid hurdles like requiring a receipt.
Making it difficult/expensive to dispose of any thing results in all manner of things dumped on the ground, into storm drains, or out on the side of the road somewhere.
On the flip side, it has become ungodly expensive to deal with the solid waste stream in our cities.
 

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Recent Facom arrivals, my first. Big upgrades from what I had.

440.JP10 8 - 19 mm Combination Wrench Set With Holder (10 pc.)
These are particularly lovely.
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JL.171 3/8" Pear-Head Push-Lock Ratchet
RL.171 1/4" Pear-Head Push-Lock Ratchet
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J.120A 3/8" Sliding Tee Handle
R.120A 1/4" Sliding Tee Handle
The centre pieces are spring loaded so stay put when used as a T handle, which is what the small one will likely be used as coupled with an extension or drive-through spinner handle.
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In MA, my understanding is that any retailer that sells oil is required to take it back and recycle it. Walmart typically takes it back at the customer service desk area (usually a cart off to the side).

Only one time I've been asked if I bought it there (they may only be obligated to deal with stuff if they've sold it), but no one's ever questioned any of the containers I've brought in (for example, a brand they don't carry).

Not sure if that applies to places with smaller volumes like convenience stores / gas stations (without an attached service garage). Most people probably only buy there in an emergency top-off situation due to the prices, of course.

EDIT: A Google search just led to more confusion. Not Google's fault, it's just MA government at its finest... Apparently, there isn't a law (statute), but a set of DEP regulations that govern this. All retailers are supposed to accept up to 2 gallons per day from each customer, and may require a proof of purchase/receipt.

That last part bothers me the most. If you're serious about keeping this stuff out of landfills/groundwater, don't add stupid hurdles like requiring a receipt.

Back in college, I lived in a house with 4 other guys. We'd pool our oil into a 5-gallon pail, and when full, drop it off at a local garage (late at night). This was before security cameras, I guess.

Mike
my local auto parts store takes the used oil apparently. I also have an easier option. My city has also contracted with a company to pick up hazardous waste from the house. I've used it several times for various items they take. No charge to residents. A few emails back and forth is all it takes. Really handy when I switched over from 8 ft fluorescent tubes to LED. I probably had 20 tubes and 7-8 ballasts to dispose of. Left it next to the porch and they picked it all up. I also used to keep the old tubes and when I had enough, I'd send in a request to pick them up

back in the old days, before I knew any better, I used to smash those tubes in the trash can to get them to fit. Without another option, that might have kept on going. They make it real easy now, no excuse not to use them. No more tubes like that anyway for me.

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my local auto parts store takes the used oil apparently. I also have an easier option. My city has also contracted with a company to pick up hazardous waste from the house. I've used it several times for various items they take. No charge to residents. A few emails back and forth is all it takes. Really handy when I switched over from 8 ft fluorescent tubes to LED. I probably had 20 tubes and 7-8 ballasts to dispose of. Left it next to the porch and they picked it all up. I also used to keep the old tubes and when I had enough, I'd send in a request to pick them up

back in the old days, before I knew any better, I used to smash those tubes in the trash can to get them to fit. Without another option, that might have kept on going. They make it real easy now, no excuse not to use them. No more tubes like that anyway for me.

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Wow, that's amazing!

We have to pay for private trash pickup, or take our own trash to the dump. I'm not even sure where that is, to be honest.

There are some collection points for larger items and hazardous materials. They charge for absolutely everything.

Mike
 

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I've been on a bit of a new tool (and new toolbox) binge the past few months, and some of my recent additions have been lots of Wera tools... I've had some of their screwdrivers forever, but recently went a bit deep down the Wera rabbit hole...

Todays delivery are on top of the toolbox, plus fairly recent additions of Wera drivers for metric hex, metric sockets, and torx (magnetic holders side of the box), a full stainless screwdriver set (white handles in drawer), full Torx and screwdriver stubbies (in foam block), and Wera compact ratcheting bit holder (next to the stainless screwdrivers), and a Tool-check.

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I have to say, as much as I love Wera drivers, just at first look/feel, I'm not sure I like their ratchet/socket sets as much...

First up is the 1/4" set... Immediately, I dislike the stretchy bands for holding tools in place. Considering how clever the tool-check holders are, I feel like they could have done better. But more importantly, the ratchet itself feels a bit clumsy, big head, stiff to operate, more back-drag than I'm used to, and lots of plastic on it. It would absolutely be great as a 'keep in the car and use twice a year' kind of set, but not sure any of the included tools could earn a spot in the frequently used box...
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Next is the all metal 3/8" Zyklop set. I like this better than the flexi-plastic ratchet, but it's a pretty basic (though pretty) ratchet. A bit bulky and stiff, not great balance imho. My $20 Astro Pneumatic feels better, is smoother, way less backdrag, and I think would provide equal or longer service. That said, the Astro IMHO punches *way* above it's price point and is a superb ratchet at a budget price.
So again, love the design and aesthetics, but for me, tools must perform, earn their keep, and have some sort of reasonable value equation. If these were truly German made rather than Czech Republic, maybe the price point would be more justified in my eyes...

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Recent Facom arrivals, my first. Big upgrades from what I had.

440.JP10 8 - 19 mm Combination Wrench Set With Holder (10 pc.)
These are particularly lovely.
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JL.171 3/8" Pear-Head Push-Lock Ratchet
RL.171 1/4" Pear-Head Push-Lock Ratchet
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Give us some feedback on the Facom ratchets after you get a chance to use them a bit.... Love the wrenches, have a set of the nearly identical USAG ones (in XL) on order.
 

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Recent Facom arrivals, my first. Big upgrades from what I had.

440.JP10 8 - 19 mm Combination Wrench Set With Holder (10 pc.)
These are particularly lovely.
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I bought that wrench set recently and they really do feel nice.

Welcome to GJ! You might like the FACOM tools thread. Maybe cross-post those new purchases there, too!

 

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Hoffmann Group has redesigned their screwdrivers and discontinued the old style. 😕 The remaining inventory was heavily clearanced quite some time ago and moved pretty fast. I've been picking them up as finances allowed which also accumulated points that applied to future orders.
Their recent Memorial Day sale featured no minimum free shipping so I pulled the trigger on the last items I wanted, the Pozidriv screwdrivers.
Happy with the tools, but sad they are NLA in this pattern.

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Shown with the rest of the family. Already been using some of these:
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The rest of my acquisitions.
The 2 pc mini screwdriver set below (00+ & 2mm-) is the new style handle. I think they are still sourcing from PB Swiss, but I don’t care much for the new design. These were included for just $1 as a promo with a previous order. I grabbed an extra red handle for the interchangeable set and also picked up the translucent insider hard handle bit driver on sale:
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The new style:
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Any idea where the new ones are made? Looks like the bolster is still one-piece (either welded or fully forged) and not stamped over like wera, oplast or most witte offerings.

Does not say anything here:


They got the red dot award probably to make it seem that they're "better" than the previous generation made by PB Swiss. That is very unlikely and this can't be anything else than a move to make it cheaper. Garant does generally offer top end quality so the new ones are surely good but probably just not as good.

Seems the tips are also "cabinet" tips with the sides ground down.
 

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Give us some feedback on the Facom ratchets after you get a chance to use them a bit.... Love the wrenches, have a set of the nearly identical USAG ones (in XL) on order.
Might not have much insight really given it's up a few levels for me, but initial impressions:

Looking at the half plastic/metal external appearance tricks my mind into thinking the weight is unbalanced (and falsely feeling to confirm it!), but in fact they are not - the balance point is the same as for my older raw metal ratchet. Using a magnet reveals the metal goes all the way up the handle.

The directional and ejections switches feel good.

The molded handle is more comfortable than my older raw metal ratchet, as I expected and one reason for my choice. However I sometimes hold ratchets near the head for greater stability when not using a supporting hand, and in this scenario the rectangular handle section is less comfortable than a raw metal round handle ratchet.
 

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I've been on a bit of a new tool (and new toolbox) binge the past few months, and some of my recent additions have been lots of Wera tools... I've had some of their screwdrivers forever, but recently went a bit deep down the Wera rabbit hole...

Todays delivery are on top of the toolbox, plus fairly recent additions of Wera drivers for metric hex, metric sockets, and torx (magnetic holders side of the box), a full stainless screwdriver set (white handles in drawer), full Torx and screwdriver stubbies (in foam block), and Wera compact ratcheting bit holder (next to the stainless screwdrivers), and a Tool-check.

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I have to say, as much as I love Wera drivers, just at first look/feel, I'm not sure I like their ratchet/socket sets as much...

First up is the 1/4" set... Immediately, I dislike the stretchy bands for holding tools in place. Considering how clever the tool-check holders are, I feel like they could have done better. But more importantly, the ratchet itself feels a bit clumsy, big head, stiff to operate, more back-drag than I'm used to, and lots of plastic on it. It would absolutely be great as a 'keep in the car and use twice a year' kind of set, but not sure any of the included tools could earn a spot in the frequently used box...
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Next is the all metal 3/8" Zyklop set. I like this better than the flexi-plastic ratchet, but it's a pretty basic (though pretty) ratchet. A bit bulky and stiff, not great balance imho. My $20 Astro Pneumatic feels better, is smoother, way less backdrag, and I think would provide equal or longer service. That said, the Astro IMHO punches *way* above it's price point and is a superb ratchet at a budget price.
So again, love the design and aesthetics, but for me, tools must perform, earn their keep, and have some sort of reasonable value equation. If these were truly German made rather than Czech Republic, maybe the price point would be more justified in my eyes...

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Jury is still out for me on the Joker wrench set as well.. Admittedly this was a pretty small set, but other than being really pretty, I'm not sure they are offering anything special...

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I have my fair share of Wera tools, in fact I used the small Advent-calendar tool check this morning. And in general, I have nothing bad to say about them.

Wera is 95% marketing & a loyal following. None of their products are of questionable quality or bad per se, but they’re also far from being excellent - just tools of generally the same quality that any industrial supplier provides.

They are positioned & marketed towards the affluent ‘DIY’er’ and new generation of social media utilizing tradespeople & content creators.

Especially here in their home country, as far as management/HQ goes, you find them in almost every DIY store. A wall full of black, Apple’esque packaged, tool sets for the customer to self pick and put in the shopping cart.

The sets marketed towards professionals are mostly service/maintenance focussed. They do cooperate with some other quality brands for some of these.

Many professional stores carry them as well, but way less of the packaged sets, more of the single items, large volume bit packs, … .

Their ratchets never appealed to me. Especially not the bulky multi-position roto heads. The all steel ones came later, again, not interested. The one I find interesting, is the ‘Koloss’ https://www-de.wera.de/en/great-tools/koloss/

I have seen it, handled it - I don’t need it. I have never seen one in the wild with either scaffolders or with industrial/ heavy machinery/ plant maintenance. But that really doesn’t mean anything.

Wera definitely deserves credit for the aggressive marketing of the bit ratchet and those tool checks. I think we wouldn’t have seen a lot of competitors products if it weren’t for Wera laying down the foundation. They surely didn’t invent either, but again, their marketing and reach is incredible.

Last but not least, another one of their signature products, the Advent-calendar has gained a loyal following as well. However, it’s starting to get ‘partly clouded’ here as well. My #1 supplier, although selling a lot of Wera, hasn’t ordered the Advent-calendars for at least two years in a row now, because of lack of interest from the (mainly professional) customers. And the one for 2024 was the first one I saw 50% marked down after Christmas, as far as I can tell that was in a single location of a DIY chain store … So again, not really representative but still …

People like the handles and that is a good reason to buy them if you’re one of them. Buying them from my #1 supplier, prices are highly competitive so in many cases it’s a no brainer picking one of them up if I need a certain driver vs. special ordering another brand. The blades are OK. The diamond/ laser tips on the drivers are very good, same goes for the (old) diamond gold bits.

The VDE/ insulated interchangeable blades and handles are good. But I do like the Wiha slimBit system better. Still I trust Wera 100% on the insulated/ VDE stuff.

Wera does have very good customer service.

My take? Personally, I wouldn’t get any of the multi-position ratchets or the steel ratchets at all. Simply because I think there are way better options out there. The sockets really do nothing for me as well. Although I have a few singles, and the ‘24 Advent-calendar tool check. They work. I have a single old Joker wrench (with the holding feature) as well that I can’t say I use/ reach for often, but it works.

The original bit ratchet is still something that I really like both in terms of quality/durability & fit/finish and I still give away as gift every now and then.

My impression is that in more recent times they are ’forcing innovation’ just for the sake of ‘being innovative’ and less to solve actual ‘real tool/ mechanical world problems’. And then marketing, loyal following and influencer do the rest.

Again, there generally is quality in all of it, but if they are the right tools for one’s job or passion, only you can determine that for yourself.

Kind regards,
Olli
 
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@pfbz

You got bit hard by the wera bug. While I have high praise for their drivers everything else for me has been a letdown. But if anything that sure is a pretty collection 😉

About fifteen years ago, when a lot of people on GJ were buying Wera, I stopped into a Woodcraft store near my house.. I impulse bought a Wera screwdriver set that was on sale. They have been really good. The laser tips work really well. I even tried them for my work screwdrivers for a while, but I went back to Klein. No regrets, though.

My biggest regret, as far as screwdrivers go, is the Wiha insulated screwdriver sets that they used to sell really cheap at Sears. The insulation is too thick to get into a lot of places. I did not know that they had a Slimline series that addressed this issue.

What are the magnetic screwdriver holders that hold them to the side of that tool cart?
 

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What are the magnetic screwdriver holders that hold them to the side of that tool cart?

He says they're these, and he said the price is good at JB Tool.


I found that one, from JB Tool, with shipping, wound up very close to Amazon price, so I added it to my Amazon order. Don't have mine yet.
 

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Wow, that's amazing!

We have to pay for private trash pickup, or take our own trash to the dump. I'm not even sure where that is, to be honest.

There are some collection points for larger items and hazardous materials. They charge for absolutely everything.

Mike
we pay for the trash pick up/recycling/yard waste to the city. It's all bundled, but there are two "trash can" sizes to choose from with different prices. This is included with the water bill/sewer bill.

4 times a year they also have a city wide event that you can take things to the city dump, electronics, mattresses etc. No charge to residents, but there are limits.

They're making it easy to do the right thing. I'm pretty sure more "wrong" things would end up in the trash if it wasn't easy or without extra charge. Nothing is free, but it feels like it when you just have them take it away with no money leaving your pocket at the time.

There are also "scrapers" that drive down my alley. I've spoken to a couple of them. Old appliances, water heater, etc will be gone within a day. I remember home depot delivered to a me a new dishwasher that I installed. The delivery guys were surprised when I said not to take the old one and the $15-20 charge for taking it. I wheeled it out into the alley. I think two hours later, the friendly neighborhood scrapper picked it up. His truck makes a racket, so I hear him sometimes. I'll also leave scrap metal leaned up against my alley wall. They take it. It's a win win. I don't have to deal with, it's not in the landfill, and they get a little money for the scrap.
 

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Dewalt Cordless Mag Drill. I've been eying this since it came out but the MSRP was so expensive. Then it showed up on Amazon as a kit with two 9ah oil resistant flexvolt batteries.I have all Dewalt OPE plus some other flexvolt and flexvolt advantage tools (TrackSaw, etc) and only two flexvolt batteries so it seemed like a good value add. Then I got a CamelCamelCamel alert that it had dropped to its lowest price ever so I had to pounce.
 

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we pay for the trash pick up/recycling/yard waste to the city. It's all bundled, but there are two "trash can" sizes to choose from with different prices. This is included with the water bill/sewer bill.

4 times a year they also have a city wide event that you can take things to the city dump, electronics, mattresses etc. No charge to residents, but there are limits.

They're making it easy to do the right thing. I'm pretty sure more "wrong" things would end up in the trash if it wasn't easy or without extra charge. Nothing is free, but it feels like it when you just have them take it away with no money leaving your pocket at the time.

There are also "scrapers" that drive down my alley. I've spoken to a couple of them. Old appliances, water heater, etc will be gone within a day. I remember home depot delivered to a me a new dishwasher that I installed. The delivery guys were surprised when I said not to take the old one and the $15-20 charge for taking it. I wheeled it out into the alley. I think two hours later, the friendly neighborhood scrapper picked it up. His truck makes a racket, so I hear him sometimes. I'll also leave scrap metal leaned up against my alley wall. They take it. It's a win win. I don't have to deal with, it's not in the landfill, and they get a little money for the scrap.

In my fair city, we have a bulk trash items day about 3 or 4 times a year. You know your neighborhood is coming soon when your weekend is full of loud exhaust noises. Not hot rod muscle cars, but old pickup trucks, bad exhausts, often with trailers, guys going around scooping up the repairable or scrappable stuff. I finally gave up on finding time in my work schedule to visit the city's metal dealer to get my $14.23 for what I had accumulated, so I started putting the old auto parts down by the street -- twice now, guys have appeared before I could finish the job! Happy they can get some money out of it.
 
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^ The two dead lawnmower decks I set out at the edge of the alley disappeared, but it took a couple weeks. I was waiting until I had a decent pile and was going to list it on CL in the "free" section, but somebody saved me the trouble. I try to get a decent pile before I post the ads on scrap metal to make it worth their while - I'm out at the end of a peninsula.

We're way, way off topic here, but.....
Funny (and crazy) how different garbage and recycling is handled in different municipalities.
In Seattle, you can put glass, plastic, newspaper, and cardboard into your curbside recyling bin - they do the sorting at Rabanco down on 4th Avenue.
Here in Tacoma, the glass has to be either hauled to the "transfer station" (in the center of the city) or there are gigantic bins you can haul it to scattered around the city. (Fortunately for me, mine is only 3 blocks away.)
Up in Sequim (where my mother lives) glass goes into the trash bin and ends up in a landfill. Go figure.

We also have the option of using two different sized trash containers: my next-door neighbor uses a 17-gallon can, and I have a 35-gallon can. Same can, but hers has an insert in it which limits its capacity. She uses mine if she has "overflow" - I try to generate as little trash as possible.

We get two "call to haul" opportunities each year. Pile it up on the curb, call the phone number, and they'll send a truck out to pick it up.
Caveat: NO construction debris, so if you're remodeling the bathroom, you're on your own - you have to haul it to the transfer station.

Our local utility is publicly-owned, so it's not a for-profit operation, but they still have to pay the fare to have Rabanco (Republic Industries) haul it halfway across the state to a gigantic landfill out in the middle of nowhere.
 

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In my fair city, we have a bulk trash items day about 3 or 4 times a year. You know your neighborhood is coming soon when your weekend is full of loud exhaust noises. Not hot rod muscle cars, but old pickup trucks, bad exhausts, often with trailers, guys going around scooping up the repairable or scrappable stuff. I finally gave up on finding time in my work schedule to visit the city's metal dealer to get my $14.23 for what I had accumulated, so I started putting the old auto parts down by the street -- twice now, guys have appeared before I could finish the job! Happy they can get some money out of it.

A decade or so ago, I caught a crew eyeing my copper boneyard. When I asked what they were up to, they offered to "haul off all that trash--no charge". I declined the offer. I also phoned in their license plate number to the cops. It was Sunday evening, late.

^ The two dead lawnmower decks I set out at the edge of the alley disappeared, but it took a couple weeks. I was waiting until I had a decent pile and was going to list it on CL in the "free" section, but somebody saved me the trouble. I try to get a decent pile before I post the ads on scrap metal to make it worth their while - I'm out at the end of a peninsula.

We're way, way off topic here, but.....
Funny (and crazy) how different garbage and recycling is handled in different municipalities.
In Seattle, you can put glass, plastic, newspaper, and cardboard into your curbside recyling bin - they do the sorting at Rabanco down on 4th Avenue.
Here in Tacoma, the glass has to be either hauled to the "transfer station" (in the center of the city) or there are gigantic bins you can haul it to scattered around the city. (Fortunately for me, mine is only 3 blocks away.)
Up in Sequim (where my mother lives) glass goes into the trash bin and ends up in a landfill. Go figure.


We also have the option of using two different sized trash containers: my next-door neighbor uses a 17-gallon can, and I have a 35-gallon can. Same can, but hers has an insert in it which limits its capacity. She uses mine if she has "overflow" - I try to generate as little trash as possible.

We get two "call to haul" opportunities each year. Pile it up on the curb, call the phone number, and they'll send a truck out to pick it up.
Caveat: NO construction debris, so if you're remodeling the bathroom, you're on your own - you have to haul it to the transfer station.

Our local utility is publicly-owned, so it's not a for-profit operation, but they still have to pay the fare to have Rabanco (Republic Industries) haul it halfway across the state to a gigantic landfill out in the middle of nowhere.
About the only thing mixed glass gets recycled to is aggregate for concrete and asphalt. If there isn't a concrete or asphalt facility that can use nearby--it isn't worth hauling far--it goes to the dump.

Clear window glass can be recycled, but rarely is, and the use of low-E coatings makes that more difficult.
 
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I was going to grab the Icon equivalents from HF, but HD had the Milwaukee set on sale so I decided to try them instead.

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I would take the Milwaukee over the Icon simply because of the grip, assuming they are same grip as the soft face dead blow.

I've handled the Icon in-store many times and every time they nearly fall out of my hand, way too slippery for me. I can't imagine how they feel with wet hands (sweat/oil/grease). To me, there is absolutely no texture or grip on the Icon.
 
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ecotec

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He says they're these, and he said the price is good at JB Tool.


I found that one, from JB Tool, with shipping, wound up very close to Amazon price, so I added it to my Amazon order. Don't have mine yet.

I get shipments from JB Tool about a day and a half after I order them.

I wish that they had a retail store to walk around in.
 
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