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Pinne

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I hear you, but it's pretty GD easy to spend >$5K on a nice bike these days. Not that I have, but I have a friend that bought a very nice CF gravel bike ~5 years ago; and it was over $6k; which freaked me out. If that was my bike, I would personally feel better when I brought it in for service if they were not just going by "feel" on it when I got the $$$ bill for a small job.

Obviously if you bring in your $199 Walmart special for a new tube, then that's different.
It's not to say they don't have torque wrenches but they're usually a lower cost click type and not always used. The reality is that most torque wrenches (and their users) are not super accurate - so if I spec something at 6nm I need to ensure it's still functional at 5nm and doesn't break at 10nm+.

Bicycles suffer from an interesting conundrum where people don't believe they should cost a lot and they don't believe the labor should be expensive. That pressure / expectation means that many shops don't operate at a super high level and many mechanics really aren't getting a ton of training. There are really top tier shops that do a great job, but they are charging $150+ an hour which many cyclists simply won't pay for. But there is no way to attract and keep talented mechanics and spend the time to do things the right way for less.

Almost every part on a bicycle is not only safety critical but is also a single point of failure. Which is something I try to keep in mind when we design and test new products. There is a lot of proprietary gear in the bike industry that makes it really difficult for mechanics (and owners). Obviously we do a lot of design on the computer and then at the factory - but I still check and assemble things in my own shop to make sure they work as we intended. That's all to say, it's a bit different than what a bike shop is doing.
 
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dwasifar

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Found these at Lowe's:

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The underside of the blade is marked too. These are pretty inexpensive at two for $16. I already have too many tape measures but I couldn't resist.

I discovered something cool about these.

When I was looking at them in the store, the one I picked up had black scale on yellow on the top side of the tape, and black scale on white on the underside. That one was a combination inch/metric though, and when I looked at the underside of the tapes I actually came home with, I discovered they're uniquely different. Please enjoy this composite photo of the first six feet or so of the underside:

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This is great. I've seen tools with "cheat sheets" on them, but never a tape measure.
 

Beerhippie

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I discovered something cool about these.

When I was looking at them in the store, the one I picked up had black scale on yellow on the top side of the tape, and black scale on white on the underside. That one was a combination inch/metric though, and when I looked at the underside of the tapes I actually came home with, I discovered they're uniquely different. Please enjoy this composite photo of the first six feet or so of the underside:

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This is great. I've seen tools with "cheat sheets" on them, but never a tape measure.
OK, the common lumber table is around 22 feet....

Not useful as far as I can see.
 

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THANKS! I finally figured out that I should should search for a thread... Up until now, I'd thought HJE Day was a local thing. My fault, not anyone here at GJ.

Like GJSS, I'll try to make a more conscious effort to get onboard early next year!

Mike

Follow the thread and take notes to see what goodies you need from HJE! You might have to make an order sometime this summer, and not wait 11 months.
 

pfbz

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Was out ripping some twisties today in the 930, but stopped by HF 10 minutes before they closed to pick up some more Braun LED rechargeable lights on todays 40% off sale. i have several of the flex head ones already, they work great and $18 with the discount, they are my go-to worklight. The neck light and higher lumen stick light I haven't used yet, but expect them to be decent as well...

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pfbz

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I love me some knipex in the morning. This will be in my go bag... as my go bag tends to be my first attempt at repairing plumbing things.

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I also recently expanded my Cobra collection to the 87 51 250 "ES" (extra slim) version. I was a little disappointed that the ones I recieved didn't have the new jaw style Knipex talks about in their promo video, essentially incorporating the 'twin grip' style jaws into the Raptor ES pliers. Very nice as they are, but still....

I reached out to Knipex, there is no model number roll from the old version to the new. When i asked them how a buyer could differentiate, they said "ask the seller".... I can just imagine the conversation with an Amazon call center in the Phillipines trying to get an answer to that one. Heck, even Zoro which has superb customer service, can't imagine the CSR's would have any idea what i am talking about let alone a definitive answer.

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pfbz

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Picked up my Astro 78320 3/8 drive NANO impact Torx, metric hex & triple square set from my favorite tool guy today. The triangular holder is different. twist to release pegs. two magnets. one on each end of the base, additional holes at each end for pegboard/wall mounting. not sure if I like it but, it's different. bits themselves aren't uniformly finished the same. some are dull phosphate while others are kind of shiny black. those with OCD will go crazy. each bit has a high vis size marking and a tiny, stamped size marking close to the opposite side hex. 17 mm hex base for use with different wrenches. :beer:

Yeah, I'm a bit bummed I bought the Astro nano Torx sockets a few months ago before they announced the 17mm compatible ones. Also wish they went down to T10, just needed a stubby T10 yesterday! Yes, I can (and did) just use a T10 bit, but if the Astro set went down to 10, I would have used it.
 

moemc

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I also recently expanded my Cobra collection to the 87 51 250 "ES" (extra slim) version. I was a little disappointed that the ones I recieved didn't have the new jaw style Knipex talks about in their promo video, essentially incorporating the 'twin grip' style jaws into the Raptor ES pliers. Very nice as they are, but still....

I reached out to Knipex, there is no model number roll from the old version to the new. When i asked them how a buyer could differentiate, they said "ask the seller".... I can just imagine the conversation with an Amazon call center in the Phillipines trying to get an answer to that one. Heck, even Zoro which has superb customer service, can't imagine the CSR's would have any idea what i am talking about let alone a definitive answer.

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We can’t even get the 180s here yet.. Im guessing once the 180s are available here, that’s probably when the revised 250s will land too. TBH I personally think I prefer the original jaws on this tool. I have twin grips anyway.
 

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Yeah, I'm a bit bummed I bought the Astro nano Torx sockets a few months ago before they announced the 17mm compatible ones. Also wish they went down to T10, just needed a stubby T10 yesterday! Yes, I can (and did) just use a T10 bit, but if the Astro set went down to 10, I would have used it.
I think the issue with the stubby nano bit sockets only going down to T25 is a matter of reducing possible warranty claims, and just the fact of the overkill using either of the nano ratcheting wrenches with those small sizes.
I thought of Astro possibly releasing a smaller nano stubby bit socket set based on their 1/4 drive nano series with the 11mm hex base but, dismissed it because there are so many different lengths and styles of bit ratchets on the market today, that most peeps would just use a half-cut hex bit if clearance was an issue. :dunno:
 

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I reached out to Knipex, there is no model number roll from the old version to the new. When i asked them how a buyer could differentiate, they said "ask the seller".... I can just imagine the conversation with an Amazon call center in the Phillipines trying to get an answer to that one. Heck, even Zoro which has superb customer service, can't imagine the CSR's would have any idea what i am talking about let alone a definitive answer.

Chad's Toolbox or KCTool it is, then. Actual American small businesses specializing in German hand tools.
 

Squankum

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Needed a rubber tipped blo gun... Ordered a Milton... Made in USA
The Jungle truck just dropped this off...
Seems well made with a brass air valve...
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If I need something and Milton makes it, I generally trust it's going to be good stuff. Here's their catalog, online:


I recently got some pencil tire pressure gauges from them and yes, they work nicely. Heck, I could even read them with my eyes.
 

cody1325

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Needed a rubber tipped blo gun... Ordered a Milton... Made in USA
The Jungle truck just dropped this off...
Seems well made with a brass air valve...
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I hate ALL of mine--almost all el-cheapos that came in big packs bought almost solely for fittings. Thus, looks like it's due for an upgrade with that one. $15 isn't painfully expensive, either. Especially given that it tends to be my most-used air tool.


Little word of advice--chucking a quick connect into the end of your hose when you can't find the blow gun is a BAD idea. Needed to clean out a vacuum filter recently, and I was half deaf for a week....
 

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Well I bought my very first ryobi battery powered tool…oh make that tools. I only bought the drill because it was the cheapest method of getting a battery and charger.

And I must say the inflator / deflator totally *****.

As in a good way 😁.

Being the kind of guy that’s patient to a fault, I let the battery hit two bars and I had to see how it performed.

I’m impressed, I really am. We recently bought a few blow up toys for taking visitors to the lake. And it will save me alllll kinds of grief with the ol’lady when I’m not around to help out.

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I didn’t spend more then a couple minutes making this giant bulky thing flat 👊
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pfbz

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Chad's Toolbox or KCTool it is, then. Actual American small businesses specializing in German hand tools.
Perhaps... Maybe a few emails back and forth or if your really lucky, a phone call, but it just would have been so much more 'tool like' to roll the version number for, you know, a different tool?
 

cody1325

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How much tape you need to pull out to find a particular table.

A Pocket Reference is much easier to use. I guess the youngs just ask their phones for anything they need.

To the point I have a few of them stashed around the place. They're so cheap, there's really no excuse NOT to have one. Been meaning on adding the engineer's version as well.

Besides, most machinist's style boxes have drawers made just for little handbooks such as these. I have one for electrical, welding, wire rope, and well, the Pocket Ref. The electrical one is motor-focused, and I've had Ugly's on my Lowe's list foor a year--but keep forgetting it.
 

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To the point I have a few of them stashed around the place. They're so cheap, there's really no excuse NOT to have one. Been meaning on adding the engineer's version as well.

Besides, most machinist's style boxes have drawers made just for little handbooks such as these. I have one for electrical, welding, wire rope, and well, the Pocket Ref. The electrical one is motor-focused, and I've had Ugly's on my Lowe's list foor a year--but keep forgetting it.
Mine's about half worn through from a couple of decades in my harness in all weather.
 
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I saw the new mini titan on Amazon last week. It's sitting in my cart awaiting the next gift card. Very nice creation!
You guys are the best!
I never did get the stubby versions, but I couldn't resist the extra utility of this one.
These things are cheap, usable and fun! Titan has got to be making a killin' off the popularity of these.
 

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You guys are the best!
I never did get the stubby versions, but I couldn't resist the extra utility of this one.
These things are cheap, usable and fun! Titan has got to be making a killin' off the popularity of these.
Probably but, I still say Titan should make a bit holding version of the longer handled micro roto ratchet. That would definitely be a money maker. :lol:
 

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Bought a T-55 Torx bit from Napa. Best price ($8.69 CDN) and impact wrench ready. All others are more expensive and only hand tool rated. Ordered it on line, picked it up the next day, ordered two, at that price, just to be safe.


The job at hand is removing a bolt holding the rear bumper on to the trailer hitch, on a 2008 Dakota. Bumper is rusty and is going to be replaced.....sometime in the future when it cools down a bit.
 

will335i

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Yeah, I'm a bit bummed I bought the Astro nano Torx sockets a few months ago before they announced the 17mm compatible ones. Also wish they went down to T10, just needed a stubby T10 yesterday! Yes, I can (and did) just use a T10 bit, but if the Astro set went down to 10, I would have used it.
Mayhew Stubby Torx

Might be a good set to look at to supplement the astro nano. I just it all the time working on my BMWs
 

M635_Guy

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Was out ripping some twisties today in the 930, but stopped by HF 10 minutes before they closed to pick up some more Braun LED rechargeable lights on todays 40% off sale. i have several of the flex head ones already, they work great and $18 with the discount, they are my go-to worklight. The neck light and higher lumen stick light I haven't used yet, but expect them to be decent as well...

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Firstly, awesome car!

I kinda slept on the Braun light sale - I could use a couple more of the LED overhead lights for my garage though I have placement issues and outlet shortages...
 

YesIHaveAHammer

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Pressol Oiler 125ml 06 864
Got this to put some Ballistol in. It does have some limitations which may turn out to be annoying. Held upright, you can squeeze oil out as long as the tube is all the way down and there's more than 50ml in it. Held at an angle or horizontally, you either need to have the tube all the way up, or have it mostly full.

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Beerhippie

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Pressol Oiler 125ml 06 864
Got this to put some Ballistol in. It does have some limitations which may turn out to be annoying. Held upright, you can squeeze oil out as long as the tube is all the way down and there's more than 50ml in it. Held at an angle or horizontally, you either need to have the tube all the way up, or have it mostly full.

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My problem with squeeze-bottles like that is that they will leak (badly) with changes in air pressure and room temperature. We used one for ethanol in the brewery (sanitizer) and it was always empty and sitting in a pool of alcohol. I replaced it with a regular spray bottle which greatly reduced our ETOH usage.
 
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