Smokeshow69
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Uhhh, you ****! Those ratcheting wrenches do well on eBay! But sounds like you have found that out now
2025 Garage Sale Thread (14th Annual)
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Outlawmws
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It screws up and down - stick your foot so the base does not spin and spinning it it will raise or lower depending on direction. Likely square threads, and probably 10 turns per inch or less.
It appears to use a different mechanism. Seat is free floating on bearings while axle is locked to base. The metal plate with screw towards base is riveted on and I believe that's the height adjustment although it hasn't yielded results.
It doesn't appear to have any cylinder or anything either so the only way I can see it working would be manually lifting it and screwing the screw down to torque the plate at an angle to lock it down.
Outlawmws
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It appears to use a different mechanism. Seat is free floating on bearings while axle is locked to base. The metal plate with screw towards base is riveted on and I believe that's the height adjustment although it hasn't yielded results.
It doesn't appear to have any cylinder or anything either so the only way I can see it working would be manually lifting it and screwing the screw down to torque the plate at an angle to lock it down.
The screw will be inside that tube - give it a few spins...
I did try but seat is free floating and axle seems to be stuck to the base(maybe keyed or something) so nothing changes.
Here's the patent pics. Patent actually doesn't mention the mechanism beyond "preferable method of adjustment". The screw does go fairly deep but loosening it all the way didn't have an effect either. Could be "glued" in place from age/dried grease/debris too though.
Outlawmws
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OK then that screw putting pressure on the bar numbered 18 is the lock screw, and you will need to turn it upside down and loosen that. Otherwise the seat will drop do the bottom. I'd suggest you mark the tube where it gose into the base stand.
Provincial
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***** to Outlaw, Smokeshow, LesserSon, MisterWonderful, and Jacobs976.
Finally got it. Loosening the screw didn't do anything on its own and trying to pull/push after did nothing either.
The trick is a dead blow or any other soft face hammer to preserve the finish while enacting percussive maintenance. The tolerances(I don't think I could fit a feeler gauge in-between) are so high that it needs to be tapped into perfect alignment(with screw loosened) with the shaft then the shaft can be easily pulled/pushed to the desired height then screw tightened back down.
Whether it's deformation of the plate from spring load over more than half a century or just a bit of dirt in the works the adjustment is practically impossible without knowing how it works to some extent.
Also no reclining feature. The similar looking spring and nut is the backrest bounce while this model doesn't have the other spring and nut that would actually recline the seat up to a significant margin by actually pivoting the seat on a ball joint as the nut is tightened. I guess the option was cut from this model at least but given the probability of over-tilt it may have been removed completely since a 30° recline would mean higher chances of injury.
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bmwrd0
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On Saturday, I decided to head down to the far end of the state, as there is a supposedly giant swap meet there on Sunday. And, on the way I was able to hit a few sales that at least looked good in the ads.
The first stop was the estate sale of a retiring dentist, who was the son of a dentist. So, lots of vintage dental equipment, so interesting tooling, etc. I was, however, getting there on the second day, so, unsurprisingly, it was pretty picked over. I did end up getting this for a very good price though:
a nice National brand dental chest. Needs cleaning, but that is OK.
After that I hit a few sales that ended up with nothing I was interested in, but I did find the two Chrome Molybdenum DBEs and a older Xacto knife at the tail end of an estate sale.
After that, I hit a Restore, were I picked up a Goodell Pratt push drill, with some of the original bits still in it!, a Stanley driver, SK metric hex key set (incomplete) and, as it was 75% off, a P&G valve gapper. On of the best things about this particular Restore is that they seal up any sets they get in thick plastic bags, which tends to keep sets together and whole. So I was happy to find the P&G set, as this is what it looked like:
As far as the swap meet, it was only so-so, although I did manage to find the following:
Furnas drum switch, Jacobs #20n, Stanley vise, Lufkin micrometer set. Everything, except the vise, needs a bit of work, but that just means I got a good deal! That, and that Jacobs should net enough to pay for the whole lot.
So, a pleasant trip, where I found a nice brewery for dinner, stayed at a cool retro hotel, had a good breakfast, and generally had a good time.
The first stop was the estate sale of a retiring dentist, who was the son of a dentist. So, lots of vintage dental equipment, so interesting tooling, etc. I was, however, getting there on the second day, so, unsurprisingly, it was pretty picked over. I did end up getting this for a very good price though:
a nice National brand dental chest. Needs cleaning, but that is OK.
After that I hit a few sales that ended up with nothing I was interested in, but I did find the two Chrome Molybdenum DBEs and a older Xacto knife at the tail end of an estate sale.
After that, I hit a Restore, were I picked up a Goodell Pratt push drill, with some of the original bits still in it!, a Stanley driver, SK metric hex key set (incomplete) and, as it was 75% off, a P&G valve gapper. On of the best things about this particular Restore is that they seal up any sets they get in thick plastic bags, which tends to keep sets together and whole. So I was happy to find the P&G set, as this is what it looked like:
As far as the swap meet, it was only so-so, although I did manage to find the following:
Furnas drum switch, Jacobs #20n, Stanley vise, Lufkin micrometer set. Everything, except the vise, needs a bit of work, but that just means I got a good deal! That, and that Jacobs should net enough to pay for the whole lot.
So, a pleasant trip, where I found a nice brewery for dinner, stayed at a cool retro hotel, had a good breakfast, and generally had a good time.
RTM
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Can I get more info on these via PM? Heading your way sometime soon.
bmwrd0
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Outlawmws
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Are we talking about food and accommodations, or are we talking in code?
WNYflyer
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Unusual early starts to sales last week in the vicinity of the opening day of our county fair. Advertised garage sale on Wednesday around the corner from the fair but came up empty but while leaving down the same road drive by some ladies dragging stuff out for what looked like a sale so pulled a U-turn and stopped in. Said I take it you are setting up for a garage sale and the lady says yup and asks if there is anything in particular you are looking for ?.........hand tools ! so she says wait right here and she starts dragging out boxes, with my help, of hand tools for me to paw through.
Came out with Vulcan 1/4 drive metric sockets set, deep and regular...rails I already had., Vulcan metric mini (electrical) combo wrench set, bunch of 4" C Clamp Vise Grips, Williams box and some misc. Vulcan and Snap-On sockets -$20
Struck out all the rest of the weekend except while leaving the last sale I checked FB and a private yard sale with tools popped up at the last minute a few miles down the same road I was leaving from and on my way home anyways. Stopped in, a retired transit authority mechanic getting rid of a bunch of doubles, triples , misc. stuff. wasn't seeing a whole lot I was interested in but did spy a tub with some nice drivers so asked how much...........$1 a piece. At that price I couldn't pass them up so picked up
A bunch of Cornwell and Snap-On drivers and at the bottom of the tub a Snap-On 70th Anniversary ratcheting screwdriver in pretty much mint shape. Guy didn't care just trying to get rid of stuff.
Funny story, Saturday was at a one day pro sale and ran into a tool sale friend that I see all the time at sales and he tells me after looking through the stuff at that sale he has to tell me about a pro sale he attended on Friday that I decided not to go too. He tells me was way up on the sign in sheet and one of the main tool picking regulars that most all the other regulars knows was farther down the list but pretended to be one of the names higher up on the list and don't know how, I'm assuming they were limiting the number in, but he got later got caught and he was forced to put all his stuff back and slinked away. I knew who it had to be before my friend even confirmed who it was. That guy is going to have to be more careful going to that pro companies sales from now on but I have an inkling they knew him already and where laying in wait
. 3baygarage should have a good idea of who I'm talking about.
Came out with Vulcan 1/4 drive metric sockets set, deep and regular...rails I already had., Vulcan metric mini (electrical) combo wrench set, bunch of 4" C Clamp Vise Grips, Williams box and some misc. Vulcan and Snap-On sockets -$20
Struck out all the rest of the weekend except while leaving the last sale I checked FB and a private yard sale with tools popped up at the last minute a few miles down the same road I was leaving from and on my way home anyways. Stopped in, a retired transit authority mechanic getting rid of a bunch of doubles, triples , misc. stuff. wasn't seeing a whole lot I was interested in but did spy a tub with some nice drivers so asked how much...........$1 a piece. At that price I couldn't pass them up so picked up
A bunch of Cornwell and Snap-On drivers and at the bottom of the tub a Snap-On 70th Anniversary ratcheting screwdriver in pretty much mint shape. Guy didn't care just trying to get rid of stuff.
Funny story, Saturday was at a one day pro sale and ran into a tool sale friend that I see all the time at sales and he tells me after looking through the stuff at that sale he has to tell me about a pro sale he attended on Friday that I decided not to go too. He tells me was way up on the sign in sheet and one of the main tool picking regulars that most all the other regulars knows was farther down the list but pretended to be one of the names higher up on the list and don't know how, I'm assuming they were limiting the number in, but he got later got caught and he was forced to put all his stuff back and slinked away. I knew who it had to be before my friend even confirmed who it was. That guy is going to have to be more careful going to that pro companies sales from now on but I have an inkling they knew him already and where laying in wait
. 3baygarage should have a good idea of who I'm talking about.
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bmwrd0
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Good on that company, and this is why most around here do not do sign up sheets. It's make a line at the door, first come first serve.
RTM
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Code. I'm heading his way, and he put in an order for stuff he wants me to bring up. I asked for a Toolmobile in exchange.Are we talking about food and accommodations, or are we talking in code?
But seriously, food and accommodations.
WNYflyer
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Many years ago, lets say the very portly gentlemen in the cube next to mine toppled over due to leaning back on a four leg chair. Hit the floor and the whole floor shook and folks were like what the hell was that ? Myself and some others rushed over here he was like a turtle on its back but thankfully uninjured. Company quickly came through and replaced all the four legged chairs with five legged ones.
Outlawmws
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Amazing how easily costs are justified against potential legal costs!
Outlawmws
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Nope, Me either.
I've managed to do that once a 5-legged chair. No, I'm not bragging, just an idiot. My coworkers looked horrified until I got up laughing (mostly out of shock),
Mike
bmwrd0
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If you want a tool mobile, I am sure I can shake a tree and one will fall out. They are common as dirt around here.Code. I'm heading his way, and he put in an order for stuff he wants me to bring up. I asked for a Toolmobile in exchange.
But seriously, food and accommodations.
(If you do want one, just let me know, I might have a spare)
Patrickm82
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Market place pick up today, 12 piece sae Craftsman professional set USA and a few tag alongs in an incorrect roll. I paid for them but wanted them! $100
3baygarage
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Unusual early starts to sales last week in the vicinity of the opening day of our county fair. Advertised garage sale on Wednesday around the corner from the fair but came up empty but while leaving down the same road drive by some ladies dragging stuff out for what looked like a sale so pulled a U-turn and stopped in. Said I take it you are setting up for a garage sale and the lady says yup and asks if there is anything in particular you are looking for ?.........hand tools ! so she says wait right here and she starts dragging out boxes, with my help, of hand tools for me to paw through.
Came out with Vulcan 1/4 drive metric sockets set, deep and regular...rails I already had., Vulcan metric mini (electrical) combo wrench set, bunch of 4" C Clamp Vise Grips, Williams box and some misc. Vulcan and Snap-On sockets -$20
Struck out all the rest of the weekend except while leaving the last sale I checked FB and a private yard sale with tools popped up at the last minute a few miles down the same road I was leaving from and on my way home anyways. Stopped in, a retired transit authority mechanic getting rid of a bunch of doubles, triples , misc. stuff. wasn't seeing a whole lot I was interested in but did spy a tub with some nice drivers so asked how much...........$1 a piece. At that price I couldn't pass them up so picked up
A bunch of Cornwell and Snap-On drivers and at the bottom of the tub a Snap-On 70th Anniversary ratcheting screwdriver in pretty much mint shape. Guy didn't care just trying to get rid of stuff.
Funny story, Saturday was at a one day pro sale and ran into a tool sale friend that I see all the time at sales and he tells me after looking through the stuff at that sale he has to tell me about a pro sale he attended on Friday that I decided not to go too. He tells me was way up on the sign in sheet and one of the main tool picking regulars that most all the other regulars knows was farther down the list but pretended to be one of the names higher up on the list and don't know how, I'm assuming they were limiting the number in, but he got later got caught and he was forced to put all his stuff back and slinked away. I knew who it had to be before my friend even confirmed who it was. That guy is going to have to be more careful going to that pro companies sales from now on but I have an inkling they knew him already and where laying in wait
Well, I haven't been to a Buffalo area sale in over 8 years sadly. However, sounds like the tactics of some scurvy scallywags I know. I've seen that a few times. You have to give me a hint because a couple people come to mind. Does his name begin with the letter F? Or did he have a European accent? Excellent deals. YOU **** on the ratcheting driver!
WNYflyer
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Yes, some give out numbers instead which come to think about is a better system.
Deep pocketed petro-chemical company who had their local facilities safety group go through our whole building hunting down those 4 legged chairs. Was amazed how quickly the chairs got swapped out.
Thanks 3bay. Yup even 8 years later I knew you would have good idea who it was
Excellent deals. YOU **** on the ratcheting driver!
. Yup, well known famous/infamous European accent guy. Same guy who drove into a ditch at a sale, figured he got so excited to get there into the ditch he went while pulling up. Thought he was going to have a stroke watching everyone going into the sale first while he dealt with the tow truck. Not to mention seeing him jump up and down trying to see in the garage door windows at another sale. Goes without saying he is well known amongst the regularsfreudianfloyd
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I haven't made it to too many yard sales this year, but my dad stopped at one the other day and brought back a broken chainsaw. He paid $5 for it. I joked that I would double his money and he said $20, so I took the deal.
Stihl 020T
It had been sitting for years in an old barn. The chain was rusted tight, even after two days of soaking in evaporust, and I couldn't get the links to move. It also needed some carb work. I cleaned on it for hours, It looked much worse when he brought it over.
$42 in parts later, and this thing fired up and runs great!
These are basically the same as the 200T with a few minor differences, and highly desirable top handle pro saws.
Stihl 020T
It had been sitting for years in an old barn. The chain was rusted tight, even after two days of soaking in evaporust, and I couldn't get the links to move. It also needed some carb work. I cleaned on it for hours, It looked much worse when he brought it over.
$42 in parts later, and this thing fired up and runs great!
These are basically the same as the 200T with a few minor differences, and highly desirable top handle pro saws.
Shiftless
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Are we talking about Caldera brewing? I’ve been there a couple of times and always had great food and a greater variety of great beer than I could ever sample in just a few visits. The number of bottles on shelves around the ceiling is very impressive
ctuai
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Beerhippie
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Seeing as this GJ, the obvious answer to that is... BUY A BOAT! Weld up a trailer for it--what, no welder? BUY A WELDER! Ad infinitum....
seber
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I don't know why my photos won't load. I'll try this again. All of these were $10 each. The Argon bottle is full. The battery is 790 CCA two years old and shows full charge. The diamond polishing disks are 50 grit up to 8000 grit.
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ctuai
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Bernina Bernette 334D Overlocker; Husqvarna Viking 64 30 multi-stitch; White 65 straight stitch.
Interestingly, my daughters generation is really into fabric arts. So she recently asked if I could find her a sewing machine and, in her words, "a metal one..." Hence 3 vintage sewing machines. The Italian Bernette interlocker with a broken cam; A Swedish viking multi-stitch with a broken cam; and finally the Japanese White straight stitch - no cam to break. Fascinating machines for almost nothing to purchase. Trick was to start with the simplest machine and not the most complex Unlike, typewriters these things really break on top of being sticky.
Unlike, typewriters these things really break on top of being sticky.Outlawmws
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That guy is going to have to be more careful going to that pro companies sales from now on but I have an inkling they knew him already and where laying in wait
We have at least a half dozen low-balling flippers like that around here. I've stood behind them while they were logrolling and caught the eye of the seller and shook my head while rolling my eyes... they usually get the message! No one likes to be screwed.
ctuai
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Wow, you ****. I just sold an argon tank and they go fast and for good money, and the acetylene setup is always nice to see. Nice looking pulley's. Didn't even catch the diamond polishers.
Outlawmws
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My youngest (30!) - the same - she killed a "toy" sewing machine making a Cos Play costume - finished using her mom's Pfaff; later bought one model grade less than her mom's. and is looking for a better one. She's gotten quite good, very quickly!
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ctuai
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Funny how things skip generations. These vintage ones have the power and weight to work with cos-play type materials, like canvas and leather. In terms of repairing, the overlocker tolerances are beyond my capacity to tinker with. The Viking I could probably do, but the part is $80 and it still need to get de-gunked. The White is the simplest and worked with no issues. Straight stitch is the way to go with these vintage machines.
3baygarage
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Yeah that's him, that's my old buddy. We used to clash and always seemed to be competing, he couldn't stand me at the flea market when he was selling, then we got to know each other a bit. I know where he lives, I unknowingly went to his yard sale, and got some nice stuff. I should've asked to see his collectionThanks 3bay. Yup even 8 years later I knew you would have good idea who it was
Maybe the most memorable battle was when we were the first two at a yard sale way up in like Wheatfield or something. We were side by side going through a tool chest, closing drawers on each other.
He found a hidden Snap-On blue handle breaker bar and laughed an evil laugh in my face. He beat me to a lot of nice deals but that's alright, he missed the Bell Aircraft ratchet and other stuff by seconds one time.
If you ever want to lure him away from the tools just go to some random corner, find a box of junk and yell Snap-On!
Beerhippie
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My mother had a Viking very similar (maybe identical) to that one in the '70s. One day, I used to to stitch some patches on my Levis. $120 in repairs at the shop.
We had a White similar to yours on the boat that we used to stitch sails. Never skipped a beat, even running off of sketchy generators and being exposed to salt air for years.
Outlawmws
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Starting to weed through the green 6 drawer machinist's box I got last Sat - (still no Positive ID)
Some surprises as I started cleaning some of the individual items:
First up is the copper alloy and brass C clamp! No makers marks at all -I did need to tweak the screw in two places but its straigt now:
Pliers - from the top -
Utica, Needle nose, one tip was busted off so I ve starte grinding it even. I have a bit ot touch up finish work on that
PLUCK*ETT (with the "Star") I've never seen the brand and they are flat duck bill on one jaw wit teeth adn a curved smooth jaw facing it. Forming curves?
and S&H - S&H wire forming: Smith and Hemenway - - See also Red Devil!
Han vises: the bottom one is marked "GERMANY" is really small script. No other marks. Pretty sure most of this stuff is Pre WWII as the book was 1926, and several things are "Germany" not West Germany.
Top driver is "CHAMPION" Spark plugs? Not seen a tool co. with this name:
the spin tite has the size, no maker, but a really comfortable fat handle.
The torches! the alcohol blow torch is unmarked the can burner had "Made in Germany" on the cap. Not sure how the wick adjusts yet... I like that it has the folding wire supports.
More later.
Some surprises as I started cleaning some of the individual items:
First up is the copper alloy and brass C clamp! No makers marks at all -I did need to tweak the screw in two places but its straigt now:
Pliers - from the top -
Utica, Needle nose, one tip was busted off so I ve starte grinding it even. I have a bit ot touch up finish work on that
PLUCK*ETT (with the "Star") I've never seen the brand and they are flat duck bill on one jaw wit teeth adn a curved smooth jaw facing it. Forming curves?
and S&H - S&H wire forming: Smith and Hemenway - - See also Red Devil!
Han vises: the bottom one is marked "GERMANY" is really small script. No other marks. Pretty sure most of this stuff is Pre WWII as the book was 1926, and several things are "Germany" not West Germany.
Top driver is "CHAMPION" Spark plugs? Not seen a tool co. with this name:
the spin tite has the size, no maker, but a really comfortable fat handle.
The torches! the alcohol blow torch is unmarked the can burner had "Made in Germany" on the cap. Not sure how the wick adjusts yet... I like that it has the folding wire supports.
More later.
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