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Our heavy equipment shop has the door openers in the ceiling, probably 16 feet up. I assume that’s where you push the button so blank fobs can be reprogrammed to open the doors. Is there any other way to get up there or can you copy fobs?
 
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If it's a button, why not get a painting pole that extends up to 16' and press said button.
Good idea. I have never seen that blasted controller it is so high up….the building 60x40 with two large commercial doors. I am going to use some binocs from the office level and see if I can see a button. My luck it’ll be on the other side of the damn controller.
 

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Our heavy equipment shop has the door openers in the ceiling, probably 16 feet up. I assume that’s where you push the button so blank fobs can be reprogrammed to open the doors. Is there any other way to get up there or can you copy fobs?
many of the liftmaster hard wired buttons at ground level you can lift the face of the open/close button and the learn button is underneath

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Older than this pad. The doors can be opened by a three button gang, two green and one red.
So its a commercial opener more than likely, brand new commercial units still use that style of buttons.

Does it even have a built in remote or is it an add on receiver? Maybe a picture would be helpfull
 

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Our commercial door programs at the remote.

The receiver is like 30ft up.
 

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I'm 6'1" and can just reach an 8' ceiling if I stretch. A 10' A-frame ladder should make 16' pretty easy to hit a button. I've been known to put a ladder in the bed of a pickup to gain a few feet when working on the farm.
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I bet the guys suggesting it's an add on receiver for the commercial door are correct. I know the ones for the 14' doors at my work are add ons with tiny little fobs.
 

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16' sounds like a small extension ladder, or a 12' stepladder. I'd be surprised that there isn't one around already, how are various electrical, lighting and other tasks completed at the ceiling level?
 
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16 ft? Extension ladder leaned against the wall next to opener.
At least thats how I get to mine with 14ft doors.
However I think I can program fobs from another fob.

My openers are the hiro 12.
 

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Sometimes you have to be creative. The other day I delivered a pressure treated stoop and steps assembly to a relative who lives in a mobile home on extremely sandy ground. You need pieces of plywood under step ladder legs to prevent getting dumped off. I had loaded the landing pointed towards the rear of the trailer, so when I got there I backed underneath the spread of a tree that needed trimming, stood on the stoop and trimmed limbs with a long reach clipper trimmer, then backed up to the front of the house and replaced a vinyl stove hood louver and J box that had deteriorated. Peeling back the vinyl for a few feet was way easy with something to work on. After that we both removed the old steps and winched the new ones down the folding tail gate and into place. It was way easier than transporting and dealing with a ladder in that dead sand.
 
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16 ft? Extension ladder leaned against the wall next to opener.
At least thats how I get to mine with 14ft doors.
However I think I can program fobs from another fob.

My openers are the hiro 12.
Programming a fob from another fob would be great….I do not want to get hurt in a crippling accident doing some stupid **** with a ladder and a foot stool.
 
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i did not write anything about this images....sorry. So , does this opener look familiar to anyone? I wonder if the LEARN button is in the radio box?



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We had a similar issue with transmitter/receivers we added onto our firehouse door openers. About the same height and a 12 foot step ladder was enough to reach the buttons.
 

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Programming a fob from another fob would be great….I do not want to get hurt in a crippling accident doing some stupid **** with a ladder and a foot stool.
I have not used this device:

From what I read, the rolling code fobs have different levels of security. The "rolling code" means they don't transmit the same thing (making them harder to duplicate). What you're looking for is called:

"a programmable multi-frequency fob capable of rolling code sequence prediction"

That assumes the sequence is predictable... It also explains why many OEM vehicles have a "learn" function for the remote which requires pressing it multiple times.... Doesn't always work so well.

A ladder or a renting a lift is sounding better and better to me.
 

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Older than this pad. The doors can be opened by a three button gang, two green and one red.
From that description, I bet you have a Liftmaster MJ series opener. If it’s a jack shaft opener, you’ll have to remove the grey metal cover to get to the button. BTDT…

Depending on the fobs you buy, you *may* be able to clone the fob you have. I’ve had hit or miss luck doing so, it’s easier for me to get the scaffolding out and have a safe platform to work from and do more fobs then I think I will need. Mine is at 16’
 
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Looks like this unit. It's an add on receiver and programmed with DIP switches. It may be worth upgrading to a more modern receiver unit. Perhaps your existing remote has matching DIP switches and you can copy the code to another remote.

YMMV

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Why would the OP install a new transmitter/receiver? His whole problem is reaching a button. Changing the receiver means he would have to get up there anyway, and then probably buy new remotes.

If his unit is the same generation as the ones I installed in the firehouse (and on my home gates) they are rolling code and have dip switches strictly to differentiate the installed transmitters.
 

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Why would the OP install a new transmitter/receiver? His whole problem is reaching a button. Changing the receiver means he would have to get up there anyway, and then probably buy new remotes.

If his unit is the same generation as the ones I installed in the firehouse (and on my home gates) they are rolling code and have dip switches strictly to differentiate the installed transmitters.
If that's true I agree. OTOH he may not have a button to push if he has the unit I linked. No rolling code either.

 

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Why would the OP install a new transmitter/receiver? His whole problem is reaching a button. Changing the receiver means he would have to get up there anyway, and then probably buy new remotes.
I think the suggestion is to just install another "simple" receiver at the "door open" button (if one is available). You're just closing a contact.
If his unit is the same generation as the ones I installed in the firehouse (and on my home gates) they are rolling code and have dip switches strictly to differentiate the installed transmitters.
I was under the impression that dip switches and rolling codes are different things. The DIP switch openers don't need a "program" button, they just match the code. Rolling code, you have to train the TX to the RX.... Maybe there is an opener that has both for "more security" - dunno? My openers have always been DIP or rolling code, not both...
 

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This is the unit I installed in our warehouse. No ladder needed.

 

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I think the suggestion is to just install another "simple" receiver at the "door open" button (if one is available). You're just closing a contact.

I was under the impression that dip switches and rolling codes are different things. The DIP switch openers don't need a "program" button, they just match the code. Rolling code, you have to train the TX to the RX.... Maybe there is an opener that has both for "more security" - dunno? My openers have always been DIP or rolling code, not both...
No. We have 6 of the same rolling code receivers on our firehouse doors. Push button to learn the remote code for each. Each also had to have a different setting on the dip switches so they don’t interfere with each other. I learned the hard way during setup around ten years ago. That’s how that particular iteration worked. I’m pretty sure that it’s already changed to a different rolling code setup since then.
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Looks like this unit. It's an add on receiver and programmed with DIP switches. It may be worth upgrading to a more modern receiver unit. Perhaps your existing remote has matching DIP switches and you can copy the code to another remote.

YMMV

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Cool….the one and only remote we have is a two button remote, one for the front another for the back doors. I will send a picture. I think i scared up a scissor lift from a friend of a friend. BTW, this was installed in the late 70s early 80s.
 

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Cool….the one and only remote we have is a two button remote, one for the front another for the back doors. I will send a picture. I think i scared up a scissor lift from a friend of a friend. BTW, this was installed in the late 70s early 80s.
Is this the unit you have?

Before you climb up there, open up the existing remote and look for 2 sets of DIP switches (since it's a 2 button remote)

Copy that pattern into a new remote or two.



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