OutlawDrifter
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The Ray Charles version is my favorite as well!
Marc, we sang both songs in grade school and also memorized the Gettysburg Address and the Preamble to the Constitution. I guess there's no need for any of that stuff now that it's all in everyone's pocket. Visited one of our grandsons and his wife. Their two year old daughter has a tablet. Not sure if it's a fruit or robot brand but it has a sparkly cover. I hear rumors she talks but not to me. No worries, she'll be sending me emojis or text messages real soon.The Ray Charles version is my favorite as well!
Alan, I'm afraid to contact old friends because there's a good chance they can no longer answer a phone. Where the hell did I put my ouija board?Bob, that does sound like a fun time!
Had lunch with an old friend yesterday, all we talked about was our doctors, meds and not feeling like we used to. We're both mid 70's and as you know, that IS NOT that old.![]()
Fred, you're right about the easy access. I continue my mission to get people to look up from their glass covered life and participate in a conversation. At the eye doctor office today we were in a waiting area and a huge guy with a tiny Bichon service dog was having a meltdown. He stormed out of the place cursing up a storm. Apparently his vocabulary went no further than the 'F' section of the dictionary. Made a comment to the other elderly couple across from us (who were both looking at their phones), saying "He's not going to make it to 81" and both of them laughed. Turns out they live in the really rich enclave north of us (Highland Beach) and they have traveled a lot. They had been to Australia and New Zealand on a cruise and the Mediterranean on another. I told them of my shock at seeing the pyramids right across the lawn from the hotel where we had lunch and they had visited the same hotel. I took a guess they took the same tour we did and asked if they stopped in Israel to see Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Sure enough, they had. Taking another guess I asked if they saw Ephesus in Turkey. Right again and they were blown away by the Roman ruins just like we were.Bob, I guess on the bright side of all your doctor visits, would be that you have access to all the specialists you may ever need....and very close to where you live.
Out here in the sticks, our local doctors have you bite on a stick when doing light surgery! Usually for an oopsie we just rub a little dirt on it, heals faster. My dad had a saying, "if the bone ain't showing, you ain't going" for most accidents!
Hope you get over all those pleasantries soon, with stellar results!
"a bit before my time."Scooter, I did try some Steeve Ray Vaughn. (Sp) I did recognize some of his stuff, but it feel that his music is a bit before my time. My history barely goes past Led Zeppelin, "Stairway to Heaven" the Who, even Aerosmith is on the very edge of my limits.
Rick, you may have lived a sheltered life compared to some of us but you have a great story about the music you enjoy. In that arena I am the one who has lived a sheltered life. In August 1969 our son was 5 years old so he's the last of the "Boomers" and you are part of "Gen X." As a member of the "Silent" generation I am out of my depth with our son's music as well as yours. We Silent generation people living near New York City listened to AM radio, especially WINS (1010 AM), which played rock&roll. I bought a small (slightly larger than a cigarette box) transistor radio to listen to WINS but it had an almost useless antenna. Our only TV was built into a closet in the basement playroom so its antenna wire ran from the roof mounted antenna along the outside of the house and into a conveniently located basement window. Holding the radio right next to the TV antenna wire resulted in a nice clear sound. I either listened to my radio in the back yard or climbing out the second story window of my second floor window and sitting on the roof next to the antenna wire. There was a fantastic rock&roll station in Buffalo and at night I could listen to it sometimes when the signal bounced off the ionosphere just right. In case you never listened to AM radio, here's the GoogAI explanation:Bob... I'm just reading through everyone's memories that were written in the past week... I must say that I brought up more than a few thoughts from you folks. It makes me think that I have lived a relatively sheltered life, as compared to some of ya. I read through most of them with my mouth wide open. Haha. Woodstock must've been something to see. If it happened in '69, I was 4 years old. We moved to the big farm in Duluth that year. I did watch the video with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and really liked Prince's solo on guitar. I liked Prince, he had a little bit different taste in most of his music, but I'm not saying that was a bad thing. I was once at the "First Avenue" bar in Minneapolis where Prince had some clout, maybe even got started there. He wasn't there that night, of course, but lots of posters on the walls in the place. Tom Petty, I like his stuff. Most rememberable is his song, "Refugee". I like Rush. I have only one of their albums--- "Moving Pictures". I memorized every word of the lyrics to "Tom Sawyer". I've never tried doing karaoke or whatever the kids call that nowadays, but think I could've nailed it on that song. Rush had more songs like "Limelight" that I mostly remember the lyrics to. I sometimes put my headphones on and sing out loud to the dog.... Dog appreciates my efforts, Cheryl, not so much if it's a bit later in the night and she is trying to sleep... We once a a cat... What a cat, he was... Again, I'd put headphones on and listen to music at some volume, then start whistling the song to my beloved kitty. He responded by jumping on my lap and putting one of his paws on my lips, thus cancelling any further efforts on whistling my favorite song.... Sheesh, what a grouch, but a very smart cat. (Cheryl really got a kick out of that) Maybe I wasn't that good? Maybe I was too loud? Ha. We once had a dog (of many) but Sheba (Malemute-Shepard) recognized my appreciation to music and used to sing along with me (in the form of howling). We got along so good together. Again, Cheryl shook her head and hated our efforts and went to bed. If you've ever watched some videos of the band, "Skillet" There's a very small gal, sitting behind a gigant set of drums. She does an incredible job, plus she sings vocals. I mostly like some of their earlier stuff.


Scooter, I did try some Steeve Ray Vaughn. (Sp) I did recognize some of his stuff, but it feel that his music is a bit before my time. My history barely goes past Led Zeppelin, "Stairway to Heaven" the Who, even Aerosmith is on the very edge of my limits.
I do have "Eagles" Hotel California on my Spotify list.
I like the song, by the band... Filter, that is quite good. "Hey Man Nice Shot". I like the guitar work on songs like that. Ever heard of the band... Refused? Try "New Noise". Love that song.
I can only play "New Noise" a couple of times in a row, at a decent volume, then have to put a hand on the Denon receiver to check for heat... So far so good... Love that song.
I do have an appreciation of Queensryche... quite a group. Love their music. I only have one of their albums. Silent Lucidity, Empire, Eyes of a Stranger. Too bad that the band broke up into two groups, and both sides of the band wanted to call themselves... Queensryche... Never did hear how that turned out.
Another band was Boston. Loved their music. One of the band members started out as a mechanical engineer. He put a recording studio together in his house and recorded so many of their songs on their albums... He was a perfectionist, being an engineer... It didn't go as well with the other band members...
Bob, you made a good point with @nicholam77. I'll try to put some thoughts together, and write on his thread. Even though, you know me and I don't stray too far from Pull up a chair and your own thread. But I wouldn't want to meet him except for going to some public place first. He's into "cars and coffee" shows. I've never been. I've been to the ones I've talked about. big ones, like World of Wheels. So, I'll start there. I'd like to discuss 3d printers with him online. Travis owns a 3d printer... I don't. I won't buy one until I retire... In a year... My biggest point was that I'm a bit shy, away from these two threads. But I'll get over it and write to Nick.
"a bit before my time."
SRV was popular from about '83 until '90. when he was killed in a helicopter crash leaving leaving a concert in Alpine Valley Wisconsin (East Troy, Wisconsin). I picked up on him after the album "Texas Flood", I used to ride to work in my '87 Jeep Comanche with the premium after market Sony cassette cranked full tilt, listening to his work. (check out Crossfire)
His brother Jimmy, has a different more old time rock and roll sound - give a listen to the him and his group The Fabulous Thunderbirds sometime.. I saw them as the opening act for Eric Clapton, at the Palace of Auburn Hills near Detroit, Jimmy did a couple of sets with EC during the show. Great music.
Rick & Gerry, you lost me at Chicago (I bought their "Greatest Hits" CD). We splurged on Michael Jackson's "Thriller" and an Elvis Pressley "Greatest Hits" in pre-recorded 8-track cartridge editions and over the years I have purchased a lot of Rock & Roll collections, including **** Clark's multi-CD collection, a number of female artist CDs, one jazz album, one opera album and inherited my mother's classic music CD collection. When Liane drags me to the thrift stores I browse the CD and DVD section and have found a few jems, like a copy of the 10th anniversary edition of Ray Charles "Genius Loves Company" CD. My taste in music spans many genres but I have no Acid, Garage, Hard, Heartland, Heavy metal or Rap albums.Hey Scooter, I did listen to Crossfire ( thanks for the link, I watched the video). And it is a pretty good song. A very familiar song. Just that I haven't heard it in many years; the XM stations that I listen to don't play his songs, nowadays. I'd like to recommend another song to you... Sevendust, "Everything" Love that song and play it many times in a row on my stereo.
Then you're missing out. Some of that stuff is pretty good.My taste in music spans many genres but I have no Acid, Garage, Hard, Heartland, Heavy metal or Rap albums.
I'm definitely with Bob on this one, Kay.Then you're missing out. Some of that stuff is pretty good.
Broaden your horizons. My MY-1870 grandfather rapped.I'm definitely with Bob on this one, Kay.
Came home from the dentist, enjoyed a lukewarm cup of coffee and took Liane to her 1:00 PM Retinal Surgeon checkup appointment. She has dry macular degeneration in the eye ...
HO's assistant calls me to get a clearance document from my dentist because a side effect of Xgeva is ONJ (osteonecrosis of the jaw)
I mean, I went to the hospital for a ****** nose this year!
But in banjo fashion, he went nuts with the whole thing...how the heck.... Do you learn to play an instrument with all ten fingers flying as fast as they do?
Then you're missing out. Some of that stuff is pretty good.
I do have an appreciation of Queensryche... quite a group. Love their music. I only have one of their albums. Silent Lucidity, Empire, Eyes of a Stranger. Too bad that the band broke up into two groups, and both sides of the band wanted to call themselves... Queensryche... Never did hear how that turned out.
I like the song, by the band... Filter, that is quite good. "Hey Man Nice Shot". I like the guitar work on songs like that. Ever heard of the band... Refused? Try "New Noise". Love that song.

"Refused have cited bands and artists as influences, including Inside Out,[65] Fugazi, Slayer,[66] Born Against,[67][68] and ManLiftingBanner.[69] Lyxzén has also cited Ian Svenonius's projects (The Make-Up, The Nation of Ulysses and Cupid Car Club)[70] as personal influences, while Sandström has drawn from Snapcase."


No problem, @loganb.... Welcome to the group. I've read through some of your stuff, too. I've not been a car guy, like yourself, but do like your writings. I've always fixed my own cars, but never beyond that. I always go oem parts. I have never gone past that. Some of the things that you write about, and Bob, too makes me think i can go so much further than now. I do own a 2000 or so Fox Body Mustang, and the only thing in the way, of that, would be the torque boxes on the rear suspension.. I had a chance of buying a pair of torque boxes... Rated at about a thousand hp.. no, my car is a 6 Cylinder... And those torque boxes were not cheap...Random question completely off the recently beaten path in this thread if you'll indulge me Bob...
If you were to recommend touristy type activities to a 40 something yrs old couple coming to Miami area without kids....what would your(or Liane's) be? Wife and I may be headed to Miami for a couple days without kids and trying to figure out what we may do....a day will probably be spent doing nothing at the beach....likely an evening coastal boat ride as we enjoyed those in Chicago....Frost Museum of Science gets stellar reviews....night club scene is not for us, boat tour of Biscayne Bay and maybe snorkeling as well. Little Havana seems like a must see...what's the secret recommendations of the locals?
Kay, a dear friend of mine from childhood is a music fanatic. His Facebook posts include happy birthday messages to every musician, living and dead, that he ever listened to. I admire his dedication but I have way too many time consuming but useless obsessions already. When I learned the backstory of Simon and Garfunkel's "The Sound of Silence" it took me back to the time I was close to my neighbor's son, Seamus. It's probably why the music I'm drawn to is from that era.Then you're missing out. Some of that stuff is pretty good.
@M.Brane, I agree.If the music speaks to you that's all that matters. There's something for everyone.
Scott, do you realize you're agreeing with the guy who wondered about the traffic jam rather than the one who was actually there at the greatest music event in history?I'm definitely with Bob on this one, Kay.
Kay, I live in a room filled with cranky old computer gear and a smartphone that has voice and GPS tracking records that prove I don't speak or ever leave the room. I do like music with a story or message so I am fully aware some of the things I don't listen to would be a great addition to my horizons. I just fear my life will be justifiably ended if Liane hears me humming some of the lyrics of "Baby Got Back":Broaden your horizons. My MY-1870 grandfather rapped.
@Squankum, I appreciate the nightmare you describe. I had suppressed the memory of meeting my brother-in-law's mother-in-law a year or so before she died. She had cancer in her lower jaw and they removed a section of it. They continued removing sections until she had no lower jaw left. She was unable to hold a conversation so we just sat around listening to her try to **** down a smoothie. She wore a large silk scarf to hide the damage but pulled it down to eat.Argh! This is going to make it even harder for her to learn all of the computers and cell phone and wifi password stuff should you predecease her, Bob.
(Just kidding, you've described how she noped out of technology long ago.)
Oh dear... is this anything like phossy jaw?
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Yes. Your situation gets mentioned down at the bottom section, "Links to biphosphonates."
People, I have been merciful and only provided you with a Wikipedia link. If you're the kind of sicko who digs medical photographs, go to the Google image search with it because even the Wikipedia page is gentle with the subject.
In the past, it was discovered in the late 1830's among matchstick makers. Also a risk for people working in the munitions industry, or any Krauts my father called in white phosphorous rounds on to set them and all their **** on fire.
Among my many NTB (Not too Bright) moments, I stopped taking Eliquis three days before I had the nine remaining teeth in my upper jaw extracted one day. One of the nine extraction resulted in a fistula (passage between two parts of the body that should not have a passage). Food trapped in that passage led to a nasty infection, which required major sinus surgery to fix. Stopped taking Eliquis three days before the sinsus surgery and resumed the Eliquis a week later. A day later, I lay down in bed and my upper lip is wet when I put on my CPAP mask. It's around midnight so I go to the bathroom to inspect the wet lip. It's blood and there's quite a bit of it. Now that I'm standing, blood is gushing out of my nose so I plug my nostrils with some toilet paper that is conveniently nearby. Believing I had everything under control, I returned to my bed and sat down. Turns out blood will take the next easiest path and I was suddenly gagging on huge gobs of partially clotted blood exiting my nose and down my throat.Oh dear! I can only imagine! "I'm bleeding!"
Liane picked up the banjo, got it to make a little noise and put it back in its case. It remained in the case for several years and left the building when our son came home on leave with a buddy who mentioned he always wanted to play the banjo. She paid it forward and we never spoke of it again.Steve Martin worked on it slowly as a teenager. From Wikipedia:
"Martin first picked up the banjo when he was around 17 years of age. Martin has stated in several interviews and in his memoir, Born Standing Up, that he used to take 33 rpm bluegrass records and slow them down to 16 rpm and tune his banjo down, so the notes would sound the same. Martin was able to pick out each note and perfect his playing.[citation needed] Martin learned how to play the banjo with help from John McEuen, who later joined the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. McEuen's brother later managed Martin as well as the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. "
I can't tell exactly where the 2 Live Jews are doing their video but I may have visited that stretch of beach. I've never heard the lyrics before but I've heard the conversation too many times to count.Since Bob's in Florida, he should at least start with this song by 2 Live Jews.
OK, that was a novelty act, their band name was a spoof homage to the Florida act, 2 Live Crew, who were, well, raunchy. Got in trouble with both Steven Spielberg and Tipper Gore.
Here's a nice story by the always good Roy Wood, Jr., telling a story from his young adulthood and what 2 Live Crew meant to him.
(adult language, esp. the intro song)
For me, Gallagher's best skit was the one with the big mushroom anchor. He described his early married life and then mentioned having his first child. His sentence ended with the thud of the anchor on the stage with him attached by a big hunk of rope.Probably about as well as Gallagher and Gallagher Too, who was Gallagher's brother, who had been given permission from his brother (Leo) Gallagher to use the act but then the feud began as Gallagher was, let's say, an irascible fellow.
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I listened to several segments of "The Day Walt Disney Died" and realized why I never heard of JFA (Jody Foster's Army). Liane and I DANCED to the vast majority of the music we listened to. Same thing happened when I listened to Refused's "New Noise." I can only survive a few minutes of that kind of music.Well, this is something I didn't expect! I think I've stumbled across that song on my streaming service in recent years. (My streaming service is free! It's called YouTube and has most everything.)
Listening to that song and seeing the American band label (Epitaph) I ran to Wikipedia for a reminder, yes, Swedish. And now I must back up a week:
When I brought up **** Dale, I didn't continue it to music of my youth, as there was some surf music influence on the guitarist East Bay Ray, and also a band in AZ. But I couldn't think of a song that East Bay Ray played guitar on in the 70's and 80's where the band name and lyrical content wouldn't irk some people here... and the band in AZ wasn't a surf band, but skate (as in skateboard) punk, because there's no ocean there. Their band name was abbreviated to JFA and I'll leave that one alone, too.
Here is JFA combining the surf rock classic "Pipeline" with East Bay Ray's guitar work on "Police Truck", no vocals/screaming, just instrumental:
Now back to Refused and the influences that jumped out at me.
I listened to that song today and thought, "Wow, guitar sounds like Adam. And vocals sound like Sam. And the chorus sounds like Ian Mackaye." So now I'll explain that:
First, I ran off to Wikipedia and yep, my ear was right:
Adam N. and Sam McPheeters were the core of the 90's American ******** (punk) band Born Against. Fantastic guitar noises and fantastic horrible screaming, if you like that sort of thing, not like the screaming the kids today do with their 149 flavors of Nordic black death ingrown toenail metal. B.A. never made it big but they were very influential in small circles. The best place to start is the compilation, The Rebel Sound of **** and Failure. After they broke up, Adam went on to create the band (Young) Pioneers, which has a minor country/folk influence, less Black Sabbath influence. Sam McPheeters went on to do electronic music with a former B.A. member, with the prime directive of being very silly. He's now an essayist/novelist and confesses he doesn't even begin to understand how angry he was back then.
Here's a good piece he wrote about Ted Williams' head, and other people's head or corpses being kept on ice with the futuristic, scifi fantasy that someday they can be revived and live again.
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Of the many rumors surrounding Bredo Morstoel, here is the most endearing: He arranged his deathbed pillows into a secret signal for his grandson.www.vice.com
As for Ian MacKaye, his arc is mostly:
Minor Threat (early American guitar band, fantastic guitar noises and screaming), then Embrace (softer, still rock) one album, then Fugazi, a little more jazzy and this band had a broader audience of young people since it wasn't a bunch of angry screaming. Both Minor Threat and Fugazi came and went in the span of a couple of years but were hugely influential in, again, certain small circles.
Do I remember Donna Summer? Is the Pope Catholic?Now if you remember Donna Summer, or Glenn Danzig, or optimally, remember both of these songs, I highly recommend this! I laughed the first three times I listened to it but I've since decided it really does work well.

Kirk, seems like I've been on statins since before I went through puberty.First, I'm glad I'm not to your level of health care yet. The Doc just put me on statins. Making me feel really old.
Second, I'm so with Kay on the music front. I post some of music discoveries on FB and most of my friends have never heard of the groups I list (Vulfpeck, the Hu, Vampire Weekend among some of my favs). College radio is my go to. I had one friend ask me what genre I listen to, to which I answered, "Yes". Just like it's good to learn new repair techniques and tools, the same can be said about music.
PS. If you want something fun, listen to Vulfpeck's 1612 (think Guy Mark's "Loving You has Made Me Bananas" to a more modern melody)
@Squankum, you are not forgotten... I can tell that you have a ton of history in music and are willing to learn and research new bands. I can see that you put a ton of effort into your writings. I'm going to hit the links, provided in your above responses.
Rick, I think heat was the enemy of magnetic tape, especially housed in a plastic thing. Didn't seem to matter if it was 8-track or cassette. If you left it in the car (at least in Florida) its days were numbered. I transferred all my 8-tracks to cassette and eventually bought the CD versions of the ones I loved.Bob, my first stereo... Had to have an 8-track player on it. That was an absolute must. It also had cassette, turntable, AM-FM receiver. I wore out my first 8-track tape (ABBA) by falling asleep one night while it was playing.... It sounded pretty weird the next morning when I woke up. But that was the downfall of 8-track technology. A continuous loop... What could possibly go wrong with that idea. BTW... Miss Autocorrect has no clue what I'm talking about. She wants to call my 8- track tapes... Patrick....?? I keep correcting Miss Autocorrect.
Rick, I have some hearing left but some of my younger (younger than dirt) friends are already talking about hearing aids. My enemy is pneumatic tools so I'm migrating to battery. My latest acquisition is a Cuisinart Automatic Grind & Brew 12-Cup Coffee Maker with Blade Grinder. It was $25 at one of our nearby thrift stores. It appeared to have been used, perhaps once. First time I turned it on I thought an F105 was warming up. The noise and the amount of stuff that has to be washed before making a pot of coffee educated me on the reason such a lightly used appliance was donated.@Squankum, another song I have to CRANK is Time Bomb... Saliva, Peyton Parrish, Judge & Jury....
Logan, Miami and I have a love/hate relationship so I have little advice on the things to do. I think you're already on the right track and Tripadvisor has some good suggestions:Random question completely off the recently beaten path in this thread if you'll indulge me Bob...
If you were to recommend touristy type activities to a 40 something yrs old couple coming to Miami area without kids....what would your(or Liane's) be? Wife and I may be headed to Miami for a couple days without kids and trying to figure out what we may do....a day will probably be spent doing nothing at the beach....likely an evening coastal boat ride as we enjoyed those in Chicago....Frost Museum of Science gets stellar reviews....night club scene is not for us, boat tour of Biscayne Bay and maybe snorkeling as well. Little Havana seems like a must see...what's the secret recommendations of the locals?

Emil, I don't know who told you that but my daiquiris caused some of our friends to quit drinking. Back in the Disco days we heard about a local Flanigans that offered "Wine Tasting Parties." A representative would come to your house with a selection of wines that your guests would taste and then purchase a bottle of said wine. We had a rowdy mob of Corvette Racers and Waxers show up and we all began tasting the **** out of this guy's wine. He got into the party mood and kept going out to his van to return with another case of wine. We had air mattresses and mats so no one was expected to leave our house drunk. The group outside in the pool was pretty loud and the unexpected knock on the door was a couple of city police officers. In her usual calm way, Liane yelled "it's the Police -- I have all your albums" and they laughed. We were warned to keep it down and if they had to return someone would be incarcerated.