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Let me recommend that you buy a bulk pack. I've been bit in the *** by the manufacturer that changed the design or went belly up, leaving me standing there with nothing to do but buy the whole new deal, and go through the rigamarole of replumbing the mess.
That's good advice.
The same thing happened to me.
 
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Bob - we have a deep well, pretty good water, but have an iron problem, which leads to more than just red stains (black stuff, apparently likes iron enriched water). For years we lived with a whole house canister filter and a water softener plus bottled water for the SWMBO (out of the tap tasted fine for me). A couple of years ago, I added an iron filter (looks like another water softener) which really improved the iron situation and eliminated the whole house canister. With my recently imposed weight restrictions and a mate whose less than 365 days less than me as impetus for change, I went back to the well (so to speak) (water softener/iron filter dealer) and had them install a reverse osmosis filter for the kitchen sink and refrig water supply. Water tastes the same, but no more bottled water. One corner of the basement is now referred to as the "water department", I'm waiting for it to start billing me...
 

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Microwave and stove are working great. Put 3 quart pot of water on the "UltraHeat Power Boil" burner for some pasta and it did bring the water to a boil faster than the old stove but it's no induction burner. Air fried a few stuffed and breaded jalapeno peppers and it did a better job than the Ninja Foodi Smart XL Grill and air fryer. No more batch air frying.

Paper towel indicates the toilet supply line is leak-free.

Just when I thought I was home free, Liane made a face when she poured herself a glass of tap water (we don't buy bottled water) and said it tasted off. Regular visitors to the Emporium might remember I went almost 8 years before I changed the original whole house water filter cartridge: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/bob-heines-auto-emporium.319566/page-264#post-11037457

It has been almost a year since I pulled that yucky cartridge out of the housing.
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I shut the two gate valves on the water lines coming into the house and opened the hose spigot next to the main gate valves. Went to the cabinet above the filter, expecting to find the new cartridge I could swear I bought last year. Walked around the garage feeling confused for ten minutes before I returned to the cabinet to find the new filter cartridge box hiding behind two Zep Power House spray cleaner aerosol cans.

The filter wrench sits on top of the filter so I had the old cartridge out and the new one installed in less than five minutes. It appears I need to schedule filter replacement for six months because this one doesn't look a whole lot better than the 8-year-old one. At least the housing didn't need to be cleaned with CLR this time.
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Spent another ten minutes ordering a new filter (activated charcoal this time) and printing a label to remind me of the date I changed the cartridge.
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Let me recommend that you buy a bulk pack. I've been bit in the *** by the manufacturer that changed the design or went belly up, leaving me standing there with nothing to do but buy the whole new deal, and go through the rigamarole of replumbing the mess.

I laughed when I saw the labels and went to take a pic of ours.

I'll see your 2 filter changes, averaging every 4-1/2 years, and raise you a few. 5 changes over 6 years. Soon to be 6 changes - realized when I took the pic that I'm overdue - Thank you, Bob!

I've never had one that looked as bad as yours but we did have a semi-gnarly one once when the city had to do some serious maintenance on a feeder. Sure was glad we put in the filter when we replaced our water softener.

Last time we bought filter cartridges, we bought a 4-pack. The price savings was/is shocking. They're currently $82/ea or 4 for $221. Saves $27 each!!

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Let me recommend that you buy a bulk pack. I've been bit in the *** by the manufacturer that changed the design or went belly up, leaving me standing there with nothing to do but buy the whole new deal, and go through the rigamarole of replumbing the mess.
Kay, I appreciate the advice and that's what I've done. I ordered and received a single filter with both activated carbon and KDF (Kinetic Degradation Fluxion) to try for the next change. Not sure if the copper-zinc granules will do much good but our city puts some heavy doses of chlorine in the municipal system to sanitize the pipes. I used the pool water test kit on the city water when the chlorine taste was strong and it was triple the amount of chlorine in our pool water. It may turn out the KDF has no additional benefit so I ordered a 3-pack of 5 micron activated charcoal sediment cartridges for five bucks more than the single KDF cartridge.

When we bought this house in 1996 it had a small whole house sediment filter canister that was plumbed to never be removed. Like you, I had to replace the unit when they stopped selling cartridges for it. I cut it out and piped the new larger (and industry standard 4.5x10 cartridge) housing with unions so I can replace it in short order if it ever becomes obsolete or the housing cracks or otherwise goes belly up. You aren't kidding about the $#%^* rigamarole. I did make a wood fixture to help set up the 3/4" copper fittings on the bench. My dummy pipe was meant to mimic the dimension of the new housing with a 1" to 3/4" bushing on each side. Luckily the original plumber put a couple of bypass valves and piping outside so we weren't without water during the process.
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Of course the new filter cartridge was busted when I took it out of the box. I didn't think to open the box at Home Depot so I didn't discover the torn plastic wrap and cracked cover until I got home. Haven't repeated that mistake. That's the unobtanium cartridge next to the industry standard. Once all the copper was cleaned and sweated (with some deadly but reliable old lead solder) it was an easy job sealing the fittings on both sides of the housing and tightening the unions. The new larger housing sits about one inch proud of my 1x8 (plus door) cabinets but it's protected by all the **** surrounding it that sticks out further.
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That's good advice.
The same thing happened to me.
Jon, I doubt we're the only three.
Bob - we have a deep well, pretty good water, but have an iron problem, which leads to more than just red stains (black stuff, apparently likes iron enriched water). For years we lived with a whole house canister filter and a water softener plus bottled water for the SWMBO (out of the tap tasted fine for me). A couple of years ago, I added an iron filter (looks like another water softener) which really improved the iron situation and eliminated the whole house canister. With my recently imposed weight restrictions and a mate whose less than 365 days less than me as impetus for change, I went back to the well (so to speak) (water softener/iron filter dealer) and had them install a reverse osmosis filter for the kitchen sink and refrig water supply. Water tastes the same, but no more bottled water. One corner of the basement is now referred to as the "water department", I'm waiting for it to start billing me...
Gerry, our first house in the Hudson Valley had a community well and water tank on a hill above the 154-home development. The water was so hard flakes would form and fall to the bottom of a boiling pot of water. I installed a Sears water softener and hauled bags of salt for a few years and then Duchess county decided to connect the municipal water supply to our tank, bypassing the well. I replied by setting all the valves connected to the water softener to 'bypass' (I was too cheap to use the fancy valve so I just had a diagram on the salt tank).

A lot of homes in Florida have only well water and some have municipal to the house but wells for the sprinkler system. Even a relatively deep well in South Florida contains a lot of iron and a home using that water to irrigate the lawn always has orange-brown arcs on the siding.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Bob!
Same to you Mike!
I laughed when I saw the labels and went to take a pic of ours.

I'll see your 2 filter changes, averaging every 4-1/2 years, and raise you a few. 5 changes over 6 years. Soon to be 6 changes - realized when I took the pic that I'm overdue - Thank you, Bob!

I've never had one that looked as bad as yours but we did have a semi-gnarly one once when the city had to do some serious maintenance on a feeder. Sure was glad we put in the filter when we replaced our water softener.

Last time we bought filter cartridges, we bought a 4-pack. The price savings was/is shocking. They're currently $82/ea or 4 for $221. Saves $27 each!!

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Roger, it appears you have the industry standard 4.5x20-inch cartridge so your filter should handle a lot more gunk. Because of the cabinets on my garage wall I had to settle for the half-height housing. Missed it by two inches. According to GoogAI, these are the current standard sizes:

Common Standard Sizes:
  • 4.5" x 20" (Big Blue): The most popular for general whole-house use, offering a large surface area for contaminant removal and longer service intervals.
  • 10" x 2.5" & 20" x 2.5" (Standard): Common in smaller systems or for specific applications, fitting standard housings.
  • 10" x 4.5" & 20" x 4.5" (Jumbo): Larger diameter options for higher flow rates and capacity.
Pentair seems pretty proud of their Big Blue cartridges. Even their single 4.5x10 cartridges are almost $40. The single cartridge with both carbon and KDF was less than $40:

The 3-pack of SimPure 5 micron 4.5x10 carbon/sediment filters set me back just under $45.
 

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Sorry about not speaking up a bit this week, but this week was pretty tough on me... See, my Mom has fallen, she couldn't get up, so spent about three days on the floor, and it took a "courtesy call" from the local police to actually get into her apt to find her, in distress....... Once she arrived at the hospital, her temp was 93°. Her blood sugar had 500 numbers... Not good. Me and my big sisters are trying to figure out the bill to the hospital and her future, as the hospital is fast running out of rooms. Not good. Mom is not allowed to go home to her apt anymore, according to the doctors, so we have to do something. Lots of things... Very expensive things are happening in a hurry. And it's up to me and my sisters to do something quick.
 

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Bob, I once knew an uncle like that. Just a complete drunk. Worse than your stories... His eyeglasses were at least an inch thick. Just a complete failure. He did like frog legs for supper. Something the rest of the family didn't like. Thing was, he was married to my aunt, for a few years... My aunt wouldn't touch a drop of alcohol.. the marriage didn't last. Of course.
 

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The thing is.. with Mom, that she knows that she can never go home again, to her beloved apt. She knows this now. That part is kinda good. See, my sister had plans in place, many years ago. Mom decided to basically dis-own my sister... Over this very same thing.
.And so it it went for the past few years. Who am I to decide the same result? Mom can't live alone anymore, and we all know it, Mom is starting to realize that now. So, what my sister tried to start things, years ago, and Mom dis-owned her... And Mom is in the condition that she's in, nowadays, really shouldn't make me look like the bad guy, so much, anymore. At least I like to think that way.

I have two sisters, both older than myself. The older sister is a medical doctor. The younger sister of the two is an accountant. I'm just a lowly machinist. Ha. I have a neice that is an attorney. That being said gives me plenty of hope that we can make something work for my Mom. I have no doubt. But gives me reasons to not sleep at night and I'm taking Sumitriptan, again, for migraine headaches, lately. Once we get Mom into something stable again, I'll feel better. Mom is not allowed to leave Anoka County, we thought to bring her over the border, to Wisconsin, but don't think that would be good. My thoughts are just to do the correct thing for Mom. My sister lives within a mile away from her apt. If Mom can go there, she (Mom) won't be too far from my sister.
 
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How many miles are transpiring here?

My preventive maintenance plan for the missus's old dinosaurs with oodles of highway miles is: new serp belt, idler, tensioner, every 100K mi. It's worked so far.

I have a thrifty friend who found the right bearing number to replace the bearing in an idler pulley, found that O'Reilly's had it in stock, then began the difficulty of the kid at the counter/computer being unable to go get it off the shelf and grab it and sell it to him.... because the customer could not state... year... make.... model.... engine.... to bring up that bearing.
@Squankum, my policy used to be, let the bearing fail, be stuck at the side of the road, and then you fix. In most cases, you wait many hours for AAA to come by, to help, if they have nothing else to do, that day. I'm not complaining. They are very doggone busy, every time I ask for help. One time, Cheryl got herself into trouble, on a very winter-y day not far from home. She ended up in the ditch. She, after a while, actually walked home. (She was within a mile from home) It took my friends (AAA) about twelve ******** hours to come to her rescue. Cheryl left the "scene of the van in ditch", quite well away from traffic, and left the four-way flashers working. By the time my friends (AAA) showed up, the battery was long since dead... So we had to jump the battery before my friend (AAA) could start the van, to help the very small wrecker get the van out of the ditch, twelve hours later... Again, I'm not complaining, but their business model just *****, making you and everyone else wait hours at a time, for help to come.
 

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@Squankum, that's exactly why I made my own pulley, and stocked plenty of bearings on my shelf...

But I've since learned about preventative maintenance, through ASE webinars. Their recommendation is to replace the pulley each and every 100,000 miles. They also said, that at that point, that pulley, that bearing has just spent something like about a billion revolutions in its lifetime. I don't know about you, but think if I put that amount of miles (equivalent) on my hips, I'm due for a replacement. Or at least a shot of grease...
 
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@Squankum, that's exactly why I made my own pulley, and stocked plenty of bearings on my shelf...

But I've since learned about preventative maintenance, through ASE webinars. Their recommendation is to replace the pulley each and every 100,000 miles. They also said, that at that point, that pulley, that bearing has just spent something like about a billion revolutions in its lifetime. I don't know about you, but think if I put that amount of miles (equivalent) on my hips, I'm due for a replacement. Or at least a shot of grease...

It is kind of impressive that it goes that far just on grease. OTOH, it took Porsche to decide to put a bearing like that inside a motor.
 

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It is kind of impressive that it goes that far just on grease. OTOH, it took Porsche to decide to put a bearing like that inside a motor.
If I remember Porsche put a 2000 mile replacement on Porsche Cup Car hubs. At 2100 miles they just blew apart. Think the cost was 10k a corner. That was a money maker. Back when I ran a Turbo 944 in the ****** Endurance series they came out with a different shock package for each track. We did it once was a cash grab by Porsche. In 1985 I hit the Porsche parts trailer for lug nuts and they were 5$ each and they were not anything you couldn't have gotten at NAPA.
 

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I have to say if you want to play with big boys you will pay. One of the reasons I stuck with being crew you win if he wins. My long time race friend was moaning about the cost to rebuild a Porsche Cup car Transmission it was 50k. He keeps his cars at a garage condo at NJMP. It is a common complaint from drivers about the cost of racing, but many seem to find the $ if they want.
I remember a 750 alignment in late 80's on a race car. The car was put together with out bothering to measure anything. We first tried an alignment and a corner weight the car was not square. So we took it all apart made the a arms match spent a lot of time with bump steer he took the washers out and didn't put them back the same way. So it took two days and a lot of work to get it right. But as always the driver bitched about the 750$ alignment not mentioning the fact he put it back together wrong. Usually the rock marks are on the bottom of the A-arm not the top.
 
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Sorry about not speaking up a bit this week, but this week was pretty tough on me... See, my Mom has fallen, she couldn't get up, so spent about three days on the floor, and it took a "courtesy call" from the local police to actually get into her apt to find her, in distress....... Once she arrived at the hospital, her temp was 93°. Her blood sugar had 500 numbers... Not good. Me and my big sisters are trying to figure out the bill to the hospital and her future, as the hospital is fast running out of rooms. Not good. Mom is not allowed to go home to her apt anymore, according to the doctors, so we have to do something. Lots of things... Very expensive things are happening in a hurry. And it's up to me and my sisters to do something quick.
Rick, I completely understand. My mother lived 3 miles from us for years. In 2002, when she turned 90, I had to take her car away after I saw her making a turn from the wrong side of a divided street. Some of her meds, like Coumadin were critical so I began making daily visits to cook her dinner and set up her pills. I bought a pill dispenser that had morning, noon and night bins and an alarm went off when each bin of pills was to be taken. I drove her to the doctors and took her food shopping. Most days she spent five or six hours at a senior center that had pickup and dropoff service.

A year into that schedule, she called me unexpectedly and said she fell in the shower (a 4'x8' monster) and was bleeding. Got to her condo about four minutes later and found her in a huge pool of blood next to the phone in her guest room. Called 911 and because the firehouse was two blocks away, they were there in about two minutes.

After transporting my mother to the hospital in Boca Raton, we were informed they don't deal with trauma patients and she had to be transported to the Delray Beach hospital to our north. The Delray Beach hospital emergency room was like a visit to one of the "Hostel" resorts in the movies. My mother sat in a wheelchair in a nightgown for more than an hour before a "trauma" specialist could see her.

As my mother's dementia progressed, she began "sundowning." One night she heard a little girl calling to her from the parking lot and went out to find her. She didn't bring her keys with her and was locked out of the condo building until someone arrived near dawn and let her in. Three in the morning was the same as three in the afternoon for her so I bought a 24-hour digital clock but it didn't help. Because some fart smeller talked her into buying long-term care insurance, she was able to return to her condo surrounded by all her treasures and memories with round-the-clock nursing care. When the insurance ran out, I made an illegal(?) offer for the nurse to stay on for an increase in her pay, full social security and medicare (paid on our side as her employer) and two weeks paid vacation each year (two more than her former company gave her). It cost all of my mother's social security and pension so all I paid was utilities, condo fees and food.

Mom passed away on Mothers Day 2008 after celebrating her 100th birthday in November. She was only 95 but was obsessed with living to 100 so I saw no harm putting the candle on her cake.
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Bob, I once knew an uncle like that. Just a complete drunk. Worse than your stories... His eyeglasses were at least an inch thick. Just a complete failure. He did like frog legs for supper. Something the rest of the family didn't like. Thing was, he was married to my aunt, for a few years... My aunt wouldn't touch a drop of alcohol.. the marriage didn't last. Of course.
Rick, I have an addictive personality so I have to be careful about a lot of things. Much as I would love to pour some Johnnie Walker Black over some ice cubes, I know I would be a blackout drunk within a week. Same with a cigarette. One would lead to a pack a day habit just as fast as the JWB.

Sober and smoke free life with Liane is way better than drunk and puffing all alone in a cargo van.
The thing is.. with Mom, that she knows that she can never go home again, to her beloved apt. She knows this now. That part is kinda good. See, my sister had plans in place, many years ago. Mom decided to basically dis-own my sister... Over this very same thing.
.And so it it went for the past few years. Who am I to decide the same result? Mom can't live alone anymore, and we all know it, Mom is starting to realize that now. So, what my sister tried to start things, years ago, and Mom dis-owned her... And Mom is in the condition that she's in, nowadays, really shouldn't make me look like the bad guy, so much, anymore. At least I like to think that way.

I have two sisters, both older than myself. The older sister is a medical doctor. The younger sister of the two is an accountant. I'm just a lowly machinist. Ha. I have a neice that is an attorney. That being said gives me plenty of hope that we can make something work for my Mom. I have no doubt. But gives me reasons to not sleep at night and I'm taking Sumitriptan, again, for migraine headaches, lately. Once we get Mom into something stable again, I'll feel better. Mom is not allowed to leave Anoka County, we thought to bring her over the border, to Wisconsin, but don't think that would be good. My thoughts are just to do the correct thing for Mom. My sister lives within a mile away from her apt. If Mom can go there, she (Mom) won't be too far from my sister.
Rick, I visited too many relatives in nursing homes to ever wish that on my mother. When she was 90 and had her [in my opinion, unnecessary] annual mammogram, they found a small lump and her idiot oncologist performed surgery to remove the lump (a lumpectomy). Her sane primary care physician told her (and me) she didn't need annual mammograms because the damaged valve in her heart would kill her long before the cancer would. The mammogram people called my mother every year but the calls were intercepted until 2008, when she set up an appointment I didn't learn about until the night before. Sure enough, they found another small lump and the oncologasshole told me it was up to my mother to decide to have another lumpectomy. He performed the lumpectomy in late March and in April she developed pneumonia. She was unable to cough hard enough to clear her lungs. Her heart was failing and her primary care physician recommended Hospice care. She entered the facility on Monday, May 6, 2008, had daily visits with me, a visit from our son and his 7 children (her great-grandchildren) on Saturday, May 10 and I visited her on Sunday morning (Mother's Day) and she never woke up that day, passing away at 3 in the afternoon.
@Squankum, my policy used to be, let the bearing fail, be stuck at the side of the road, and then you fix. In most cases, you wait many hours for AAA to come by, to help, if they have nothing else to do, that day. I'm not complaining. They are very doggone busy, every time I ask for help. One time, Cheryl got herself into trouble, on a very winter-y day not far from home. She ended up in the ditch. She, after a while, actually walked home. (She was within a mile from home) It took my friends (AAA) about twelve ******** hours to come to her rescue. Cheryl left the "scene of the van in ditch", quite well away from traffic, and left the four-way flashers working. By the time my friends (AAA) showed up, the battery was long since dead... So we had to jump the battery before my friend (AAA) could start the van, to help the very small wrecker get the van out of the ditch, twelve hours later... Again, I'm not complaining, but their business model just *****, making you and everyone else wait hours at a time, for help to come.
Rick, AAA is like most insurance. You pay premiums as required but when you ask for them to provide the service you've been paying, time becomes relative. I'm pretty sure "Roadside Assistance" means they will help the side of the road as soon as possible. If your car is in the way, they may assist you to move it out of the way and fix the road.
@Squankum, that's exactly why I made my own pulley, and stocked plenty of bearings on my shelf...

But I've since learned about preventative maintenance, through ASE webinars. Their recommendation is to replace the pulley each and every 100,000 miles. They also said, that at that point, that pulley, that bearing has just spent something like about a billion revolutions in its lifetime. I don't know about you, but think if I put that amount of miles (equivalent) on my hips, I'm due for a replacement. Or at least a shot of grease...
Rick, I am on the "Replace the thing and attached pulley" because I don't own any precision tools.
It is kind of impressive that it goes that far just on grease. OTOH, it took Porsche to decide to put a bearing like that inside a motor.
@Squankum, I recall one dragster engine builder putting roller bearings in the bottom end of a Chrysler Hemi. It was fantastic and produced way more than expected horsepower. At some point either a clutch or some other piece of the drivetrain failed and the engine instantly turned itself into the highest revving hand grenade ever seen.
Is she still on parole for the bank heist?
Ruh Roh.
Ha, no. But it's interesting that you bring that up. Since I'm now poa, and My sister is not anymore, that creates some real issues as far as payment goes toward the nursing home, for the time being. We'll work through some issues for long term.
Rick, I've been paying Long Term Care Insurance premiums to John Hancock for more than 40 years so I don't have to depend on 'the kindness of my relatives.'
If I remember Porsche put a 2000 mile replacement on Porsche Cup Car hubs. At 2100 miles they just blew apart. Think the cost was 10k a corner. That was a money maker. Back when I ran a Turbo 944 in the ****** Endurance series they came out with a different shock package for each track. We did it once was a cash grab by Porsche. In 1985 I hit the Porsche parts trailer for lug nuts and they were 5$ each and they were not anything you couldn't have gotten at NAPA.
Michael, only Porsche could make yacht ownership to be a poor man's realm.
I have to say if you want to play with big boys you will pay. One of the reasons I stuck with being crew you win if he wins. My long time race friend was moaning about the cost to rebuild a Porsche Cup car Transmission it was 50k. He keeps his cars at a garage condo at NJMP. It is a common complaint from drivers about the cost of racing, but many seem to find the $ if they want.
I remember a 750 alignment in late 80's on a race car. The car was put together with out bothering to measure anything. We first tried an alignment and a corner weight the car was not square. So we took it all apart made the a arms match spent a lot of time with bump steer he took the washers out and didn't put them back the same way. So it took two days and a lot of work to get it right. But as always the driver bitched about the 750$ alignment not mentioning the fact he put it back together wrong. Usually the rock marks are on the bottom of the A-arm not the top.
A buddy at IBM raced a 1979 Datsun 200SX in an SCCA class and I joined his volunteer pit crew. Ten minutes into the race at the Daytona Infield Track his transmission tailshaft broke. We spent an hour on our backs pulling the transmission, expecting to swap in a spare. We couldn't get the input splines to mate with the clutch disk so it was dismantle and swap the input shaft. He got the car back on the track so it wasn't a DNF and he got a few points but it was not a pro team effort.
Bob: Just looked at the Natl weather...... Sorry, I forgot to close the door.
Gerry. the doc says my *** will thaw but it was touch and go for a few days.
It's been a few days since you've updated your thread. I hope everything is alright.
Kirk, I'm OK but my dislike for AT&T and resentment for their endless price increases made me sign up for Comcast Xfinity to replace my TV and Internet service. Went through a painful signup process on January 6 that included reading my bank routing and account numbers to a person whose first language was not English. Received texts on my phone and e-mails on my computer on the 7th, 8th and 9th welcoming me, thanking me for connecting to their service and letting me know my bank refused to pay the $25 signing fee and apparently charged Comcast for $25 for an unauthorized check via Plaid. Every text, e-mail and phone call to Xfinity took forever and I never got a response to my questions about service installation. They finally scheduled a 10:00-12:00 visit for Sunday (1/11/26). Van showed up around 11:30 and the person was unaware there was no Comcast wire of any kind going from my house to the pole in my back yard. I showed him the old Comcast cable stub on the attic wall above all the AT&T boxes near the ground. Said he would call the office and sat in his van for about a half hour. Came back to tell me everything would be installed on Friday (1/16/26) between 3:00 and 5:00. On Tuesday (1/13/26) Xfinity sends me an e-mail listing everything I've signed up for. Instead of the promised huge savings, their $322.80 per month is within $60 of my AT&T bill and if I chose to have the same number of set top boxes, Xfinity service is only $30 cheaper.

Tech shows up on Friday and has absolutely nothing needed for the install. He can't get through to his office on his cell (I live in a near-dead zone) so he asks to use mine. Coaches me on what to say and once again, the other end of the line provides no assistance. As he's leaving, another Comcast truck pulls in the drveway and asks what's going on. I explain that nothing has happended but based on texts and e-mails filling my in-boxes, Xfinity is thrilled to have me as a new customer and hopes I'm enjoying the service they are providing. The new arrival speaks my language and assures me everything will be fixed immediately. A tech will be at my house on Tuesday (1/20/26) to install the cable underground and hook up everything inside the house.

EVERY time I call Xfinity, they tell me I have to accept their free for one year cell phone service. I explain that I will be 82 this time next year and will have forgotten I ever signed up and a whopping new bill will hit my bank account. Based on my experience getting through to anyone competent at Comcast (Xfinity?), cancelling that no longer free service will be a long and painful process.

I begin receiving reminders of my upcoming appointment every few hours on Monday. More texts and e-mails on Tuesday and I open a window on my new monitor that shows my four security camera views. No one shows up at 3:00 or 4:00 but I get a reminder of my appointment and the need for someone over 18 to be at the home when the tech arrives. At 5:00 there are no new messages, no indication the tech is running late or that my appointment has been cancelled. Rather than calling to complain, I had dinner and waited until 7:30 to call. As usual, the automated answering system tells me to log on or text for assistance. Instead, I called on the land (VOIP) line and say: "Representative" a dozen times until I get a human. When they ask how they can help, I tell them to cancel my service and close my account. When asked if I wanted to cancel my cell phone service as well, I became rude. After several transfers, more questions about how they can make it right, I repeated cancel my service and close my account.

Believing I have cut my ties with Xfinity, I am surprised by an e-mail the next morning:
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The sane member of the household asks that I contact Xfinity to be sure they aren't still going to bill us for services we never received. OOOPs, they are billing me for their $25 screwup. Another call to Xfinity, more screams of: "Representative" and the person directs my call to the billing department. I explain my experience, my disappointment with Xfinity and Comcast and just as I was having second thoughts about giving them another chance, I received their bill for $25 for doing absolutely nothing. When he explained it was my bank's fault, I suggested I knew nothing about running a bank and suspected Xfinity knew nothing about running a TV and Internet service based on my experience. I am then told these decisions are made by more highly paid people and given a promise of a phone call (TO MY LAND LINE) as soon as a decision is made. I reminded him this was determining my future relationship with Xfinity and $25 is exactly how much it costs for me to ever consider a second chance. You bill me, 0% chance. You reimburse me, 25% chance.

So Kirk, to answer your question, I'm FINE (Frustrated, Incensed, Nasty and Exhausted). I'm sure I've done something else this month but i'll have to check what's on my camera memory card.
 

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Every time a new service provider moves into our area with promises, the local township FB group comes alive with negative comments about our current primary provider in the township (WOW). WOW has provided my service since '07, including buried cable from the other side of the road for a $250 onetime charge, (they've actually buried it 3 different times due to some "oopsies" from me, my neighbor and a construction crewmember), they've upgraded my service in the last few years from 30 Mb/s to 1Gb/s and have less than nothing more than an occasional suspected "slip of the finger" to get equipment reboots done.

AT&T is one of the challengers, now along with Frontier, who was our landline provider with the worst service track record in my experience. I'm not interested in changing to either of these bozos....
 

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I have been with Spectrum for a few years until T-FIBER came along with Fiber and a better price than Spectrum. So I committed and made the switch. Naturally the hardest part was cancelling Spectrum. Somehow I must have been keeping them solvent and they didn't want to lose me. So they obviously offered prices they had previously said were not available. But having stretched my patience to the limit they finally cancelled my account. (But they haven't given up hope)
T-FIBER though hasn't yet lived completely up to the promise. For me it's blazing fast but my wife has issues with slow speed. 🤷 And a couple of appliances still will not connect.
Back to Spectrum? I don't know yet.
 
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Went out to eat on Thursday a few of us pick a good place like Vincent's Clam Bar in Little Italy. We get there at 8:30 and they had decided to close for the week because of the snow. So we hit Japonica a Sushi Bar opened in 1978 food is out of this world.
But here up north the world is hunkering down from the impending storm. Claims are we have not had one this bad in ten years.
Stay safe people.
 

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BOB!!!!! HOLY COW!!!! We just got fiber optic this past summer. No muss, no fuss. I/Me/Myself did happen to cut the new fiber about 2 weeks after we got it. They couldn't bury it more than 3" in a couple of spots. Guy came out and fixed my screwup for free. It's good stuff. Sorry you're not having as good an experience.
 

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BOB!!!!! HOLY COW!!!! We just got fiber optic this past summer. No muss, no fuss. I/Me/Myself did happen to cut the new fiber about 2 weeks after we got it. They couldn't bury it more than 3" in a couple of spots. Guy came out and fixed my screwup for free. It's good stuff. Sorry you're not having as good an experience.
Who's fiber? We're seeing them pulling the fiber on this side of 27 - North of Bath. Not sure why I'd change from Wow at this point, I'm getting 900 Mb/s from them, not running a **** site or doing remote CAD; streaming is fine. I'd change for a lower price, but the MTBF track record is gonna have to be better than what I've gotten from Wow for years..
 

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Who's fiber? We're seeing them pulling the fiber on this side of 27 - North of Bath. Not sure why I'd change from Wow at this point, I'm getting 900 Mb/s from them, not running a **** site or doing remote CAD; streaming is fine. I'd change for a lower price, but the MTBF track record is gonna have to be better than what I've gotten from Wow for years..
It's out of Westphalia, by Westphalia Electric. They represent Homeworks I think. One of the big names (Comcast, AT&T, whatever) came through about 10 months later and complained about the way WE did the job. It's not uncommon to have 2 different movies and an online game going at the same time at our house.
 

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xtremek said: "It's out of Westphalia, by Westphalia Electric.",

Back around '05 my daughter was living west of Portland, had to use satellite. Rather than Hughes, she opted for another smaller company (Blue something maybe) marketed by WE... Had to get on a waiting list to get the service.
BTW, I get screwed by the same shallow burial on my Wow "underground burial". The contractor working for the 811 locator services said state standard code calls for a minimum of 6" for low voltage burial. Last time my cable got cut by a contractor parking his round point shovel in about three inches of sod. I've got to go round with them again in the coming months because I need to enlarge the parking apron and the cable's already been rerouted around the existing. Maybe I'll wait and see what the fiber folks are bringing..
 

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Think we got hit with the storm of the decade. I have 24 inches high of frozen snow and slush 4 feet wide at the end of my driveway. I live at the end of a state road and they send the same three types of truck teams that plow the Expressway 495. They turn around in front of old IBM GC
Now instead of fluffy snow like we had at noon now it is freezing sleet.
So stay safe out there.
 

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BTW, I get screwed by the same shallow burial on my Wow "underground burial". The contractor working for the 811 locator services said state standard code calls for a minimum of 6" for low voltage burial. Last time my cable got cut by a contractor parking his round point shovel in about three inches of sod. I've got to go round with them again in the coming months because I need to enlarge the parking apron and the cable's already been rerouted around the existing. Maybe I'll wait and see what the fiber folks are bringing..
The reason for the shallow burial is that it's running through some seriously tall pin trees that are planted close to the shop and tightly together. Nothing anyone can do about it.
Think we got hit with the storm of the decade. I have 24 inches high of frozen snow and slush 4 feet wide at the end of my driveway. I live at the end of a state road and they send the same three types of truck teams that plow the Expressway 495. They turn around in front of old IBM GC
Now instead of fluffy snow like we had at noon now it is freezing sleet.
So stay safe out there.
You got snow, we got cold, wish we could have traded. We got maybe 4" of very light fluffy snow over the last 3 days, but Saturday morning when we left the house it was around -20*F.
 

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Bob! Long time, no speaky... (My fault). I've been changing my oil all day long, today and more to go... Ha. I'm sure you read about some of this on the "Pull up a Chair" thread. I'm trying one of these plastic pump jugs, pump the handle, creates a vacuum and ***** the oil out through the dipstick tube. I'm trying to do this wintertime and it's taking a while. No fault of the setup, me figures... The winter temps are definitely hindering my progress, but there's more than that happening. I haven't changed oil on this Durango, going on 30,000 miles or so. Not my usual style... There could be a couple dead rats, a squirrel, some dead pigeons down in that sump of an oil pan by now. Who knows what's down there and think I'm trying to **** up at least some sludge off the bottom. That, I think, is what is taking so long. This is the first time I've tried one of these vacuum tanks to change oil with.
 

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This is quickly getting old, not having a heated shop, with a pit, etc... I'm starting to hate working on cars, outside. For many reasons. One being the winter temps. Another is, middle of summer, try to work on an engine, outside... In direct sunlight. Since I wear glasses 24/7... (Ok, not nighttime). It ***** to reach down into an engine, to replace a cam sensor, for example. The sun is too bright, my glasses darken and I can't see nada.. My trouble light is not bright enough to over-power the sunlight. What happens when it rains?

My idea is to buy another shipping container, leave a space in between and buy a "garage in a box" and put that in-between both tin cans. That, at least would get me out of the sunlight, I can work on a car when it rains. I can heat, wintertime. Eventually, I'll have to replace the boxed garage with a real roof. As far as floor goes, I'm too old at this point to mix my own cement anymore, but maybe a layer of pavers? A few at a time?
 

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My second container, I'd put some of my machine tools in. Some of the smaller machines that are still in the fallen shop. As far as putting pavers for a floor (in the middle) would prevent me from installing a two-post hoist, and most likely not a four post hoist. A four post hoist, I think, would best match what I had with the pit. I'll have to think on that some more.
 

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As far as floor goes, I'm too old at this point to mix my own cement anymore, but maybe a layer of pavers? A few at a time?
There are these magical things called cement trucks. Much easier than pouring your own for larger jobs. Then all you have to do is squish the cement out flattish.

In my old age I had tended to limit myself to 8x12 for self pours. Though, nowadays, with way less energy, I'm thinking a 6 foot oval is going to be my limit this spring.
 

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There are these magical things called cement trucks. Much easier than pouring your own for larger jobs. Then all you have to do is squish the cement out flattish.

In my old age I had tended to limit myself to 8x12 for self pours. Though, nowadays, with way less energy, I'm thinking a 6 foot oval is going to be my limit this spring.
Kay... Magic concrete costs money. Something I don't have. You did better'n myself with my limit being about 10 x 10 slab, every single weekend for about five years... Or maybe about the same.. When it came time to pour the pit walls, my Dad came to help, but limited himself to wheelbarrow duty. It was up to me to keep two mixers, side by side, mixing all day long. I figured we poured about 4 yards that day. I was one tired boy that evening... But it was a good tired. I figured all in all, I poured about 40 yards in 5 years. But I was in my twenties, back then and felt invincible. Toward the end, I had a good sized tractor and a gravel pit on my property, so the only thing I had to buy at the time was 94 lb sacks of cement and a handful of 3/8 re-bar.
 

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pump the handle, creates a vacuum and ***** the oil out through the dipstick tube. I'm trying to do this wintertime and it's taking a while. No fault of the setup, me figures... The winter temps are definitely hindering my progress, but there's more than that happening.

Rick, I got one years ago when I had a rounded-off soft metal drain plug on a new used car. The directions said to run the engine for 8 minutes from cold first. (Not too hot, not too cold, stuff stirred up some.)

The good news is now you have one. (I call it ****-O-Matic.) It can be used for antifreeze, brake fluid, and regardless of what the instructions say, gasoline! Handy thing to have.

Hope that engine's okay. I used to know a guy who did 30,000 mile oil changes in the 80's. Mobil 1 (back when that was kinda newfangled) and a new oil filter every 5K, plus a top up. He put a lot of miles on his cars and it was working for him.
 

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Rick, I got one years ago when I had a rounded-off soft metal drain plug on a new used car. The directions said to run the engine for 8 minutes from cold first. (Not too hot, not too cold, stuff stirred up some.)

The good news is now you have one. (I call it ****-O-Matic.) It can be used for antifreeze, brake fluid, and regardless of what the instructions say, gasoline! Handy thing to have.

Hope that engine's okay. I used to know a guy who did 30,000 mile oil changes in the 80's. Mobil 1 (back when that was kinda newfangled) and a new oil filter every 5K, plus a top up. He put a lot of miles on his cars and it was working for him.
I do 25,000 mile oil changes (Mobil 1) with 3,000 mile oil filter changes in all of the vehicles I've owned since ~1986. Never had an oil leak. I popped a couple of rocker covers during that time and the engines looked pristine.

YMMV

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