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Pferd Machinist's files in plastic pouch, cut 2, 200mm (8") (532 WR 200 / 11800532)
Ordered these directly from Germany for a substantial saving over local. I didn't need all these shapes but the set was way better value than fewer singles. I had 250mm (10") before but thought shorter would be better when not working out in the open. Nice handles and tough pouch, both better than the equivalent Bahco.
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Pferd Special file universal sharpening file, 200mm (8") (PF 1212 ruk 200 H2 / 11272207)
Pferd Wood rasp tanged half-round pointed, cut 2, 200mm (8") (PF 1552 200 H2 / 11233207)
The sharpening file is single cut 2, with smooth rounded edges to avoid digging in.
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There are slots for two additional files in the pouch, however due to the bulk of the handles it doesn't roll up very well with more than the original 5 if you have handles on the extra ones. I would have liked some way of knowing what's in each slot without pulling them out, but perhaps difficult to do that while keeping the handles and case generic. I might stencil it.
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Pferd file brush (HBF 10 ST 0,15 / 43698013)
This seems to be mismarked as the wires are 0.3mm, which is fortunately what I wanted, but hadn't noticed when ordering. Seems to be a HBF 10 ST 0,30 (12601000). This brush appears under several German brands, and there's also a slightly different one with a less refined handle shape and no hanging hole (which of course you could DIY). I'll treat the bare wood handle with something.
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Funny, I used one of my Pferd files today! Mine came in the Wera foam inlay.


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Latest tool pickup, VIM Nora 150/150XL ratcheting wrench heads... Cool tool or gimmick tool, still deciding.

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Video review here:
They have their place in a mechanic's arsenal to defeat engineers that don't consider repairing a vehicle. They offer you an infinite range of handle selections. Although since Toolant's release of their standard length fixed/reversible flex ratcheting wrenches maybe not as much. I use mine often. Shop around for the best deal.
 

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They have their place in a mechanic's arsenal to defeat engineers that don't consider repairing a vehicle. They offer you an infinite range of handle selections. Although since Toolant's release of their standard length fixed/reversible flex ratcheting wrenches maybe not as much. I use mine often. Shop around for the best deal.
Hi Fed,How is the toolant wrench perform currently? Any problem with their quality?The backdrag,the steel quality?the satin chrome plating,etc
 

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Dewalt knockoff vacuum. It’s portable and praction. IMG_7618.jpeg
I have the Dewalt version of that. It is a pretty good vac. Not super strong but for brief work a good compromise between size/weight, portability, and performance. I have been using it a lot. It is good for small home project clean ups.

The Dewalt attachment set is unusually robust as mass produced plastic stuff tends to go these days. That was a good surprise and helps it hold up well.
 
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lund

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Not really tools but magnetic tool holders.
Ratchet, extension and pick holders from Etsy. Seller DBA QRT Organizers. He makes nice stuff.

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I used to be really phobic on magnetizing tools since I did a lot of work on small electronic stuff where sometimes you wanted drivers magnetized and sometimes absolutely not. I also sometimes do metal work and grinding where magnetized tools can be a disaster picking up ferromagnetic crud. Couple that with the reality that demagnetization can be a pain (requires a decaying and oscillating field waveform to really do it correctly) so once something steel is magnetized it can be hard to get rid of it. I became a little less phobic with magnets around tools used mostly for automotive stuff in recent years. But it is still irksome when steel gets magnetized and picks up magnetic material dust etc in the garage.

Are other people phobic about magnetizing tools or do you not care? Magnetization certainly has virtues in some cases. Particularly, sockets with strong permanent magnets embedded within to help retain nuts when working in deep engine compartments and stuff like that can be life savers in cases where a drop can be a nightmare. But I try to keep that kind of stuff reasonably far away from ratchets, extensions etc to avoid unintended magnetizations. I also started using magnetic parts trays for cars in recent years and those are helpful to avoid scatter mishaps and keep things sorted (one tray per disassembled part etc to reduce combinatorics on "where did that go" type moments). Secondary magnetization pickup (part to tool) for automotive stuff tends to be small enough to not be a big problem.
 
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......Are other people phobic about magnetizing tools or do you not care? ......

I can't speak for other people but magnetizing my ratchets, extension, picks, etc with the small magnets on these holders is the least of my concerns.

FWIW, I know guys that use much larger and stronger magnets to secure handguns and magazines without any negative side effects.
 

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I can't speak for other people but magnetizing my ratchets, extension, picks, etc with the small magnets on these holders is the least of my concerns.

FWIW, I know guys that use much larger and stronger magnets to secure handguns and magazines without any negative side effects.
All depends on what you are doing. I am pretty sure guys doing metal work with grinders etc would loathe even light magnetization on tools they are using in their shops.

Demagnetization of ferromagnetic materials (like steel) is an interesting topic. There are a lot of junk products claiming to do that for small tools like magnetized screwdrivers tips. Example: put driver tip in some permanent magnet block with a hole in it to supposedly "demagnetize." That kind of stuff is likely worse than doing nothing for good physics reasons. Doing it right requires a pulsed oscillating magnetic field tuned to the specific need. That is not a triviality to get tuned right also.

I would agree for automotive stuff it may not matter much if a ratchet etc is magnetized unless you work around a lot of dust/grit that magnetically couples enough. If you do have small stuff that can be magnetized, you will notice quickly! Imagine working on sensitive circuits with the same wrenches dragging around conducting grit. Bad problems can follow.

One funny thing: I started using magnetic trays for parts while doing automotive disassembles. It is inevitable that you brush up against these with wrenches etc when working. This resulted in a magnetized wrench "gathering" a light steel part I needed ... which I could not find anywhere because it was stuck to the wrench in an awkward to notice position. I looked everywhere, only to find it a week later with a "look what we have here moment" after fabricating a kluge after giving up searching. But the magnetic trays also saved a few part scatters etc while working on our family cars (what ... me trip over a bowl of parts on the floor ?!?). Nothing is perfect, and context of uses set what may or may not be optimal.
 
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I can't speak for other people but magnetizing my ratchets, extension, picks, etc with the small magnets on these holders is the least of my concerns.

FWIW, I know guys that use much larger and stronger magnets to secure handguns and magazines without any negative side effects.
This is a speaker in my old laptop--which has never been anywhere but my desk, as distant from the grinding/cutting area of the (tiny) shop as possible:

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Imagine what a magnetized tool or tool holder on the bench where I do much of my grinding would look like!

I'm certainly not arguing against magnetized tools or holders in general, just sayin'--there are times and places for them, and my shop at any time ain't one of them. I'm actually jealous about the holders, as they seem right handy.
 

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Looks clean, but that is wild with how much wasted space I'm seeing.
I was chuckling similar. It is impressively clean. I tend to have stacks of files in drawers ... maybe with stacks organized by type and fine/coards cut, sizes, spares, etc. I would need walls of cabinets with this spread out foam holder approach! Things get damaged and changed too.
 
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This is a speaker in my old laptop--which has never been anywhere but my desk, as distant from the grinding/cutting area of the (tiny) shop as possible:

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Imagine what a magnetized tool or tool holder on the bench where I do much of my grinding would look like!

I'm certainly not arguing against magnetized tools or holders in general, just sayin'--there are times and places for them, and my shop at any time ain't one of them. I'm actually jealous about the holders, as they seem right handy.

Yikes. Permanent magnets on the fan motor. Those chains can conduct and magnetize other parts of the circuit boards and chips mounted and the signal buses are high frequency. You can see where that can go ...

I am surprised that you can keep electronic stuff like that with high frequency circuit boards working if you have that much magnetic dust !! If you are lucky, you can clean it out with a very strong and small vacuum nozzle while lightly brushing. I am sure you know, but for others: NEVER blow it out with compressed air!!!! That can scatter the magnetized strands in the circuit board creating lots of "fun."
 

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All depends on what you are doing. I am pretty sure guys doing metal work with grinders etc would loathe even light magnetization on tools they are using in their shops.

Demagnetization of ferromagnetic materials (like steel) is an interesting topic. There are a lot of junk products claiming to do that for small tools like magnetized screwdrivers tips. Example: put driver tip in some permanent magnet block with a hole in it to supposedly "demagnetize." That kind of stuff is likely worse than doing nothing for good physics reasons. Doing it right requires a pulsed oscillating magnetic field tuned to the specific need. That is not a triviality to get tuned right also.

I would agree for automotive stuff it may not matter much if a ratchet etc is magnetized unless you work around a lot of dust/grit that magnetically couples enough. If you do have small stuff that can be magnetized, you will notice quickly! Imagine working on sensitive circuits with the same wrenches dragging around conducting grit. Bad problems can follow.

One funny thing: I started using magnetic trays for parts while doing automotive disassembles. It is inevitable that you brush up against these with wrenches etc when working. This resulted in a magnetized wrench "gathering" a light steel part I needed ... which I could not find anywhere because it was stuck to the wrench in an awkward to notice position. I looked everywhere, only to find it a week later with a "look what we have here moment" after fabricating a kluge after giving up. But the magnetic trays also saved a few dump part scatters etc while working on our family cars (what ... me trip over a bowl of parts?). Nothing is perfect, and context of uses set what may or may not be optimal.
This is what I will be fooling with (body work) - paint and filler dust and primer overspray are my biggest issues.

Just a home / retirement hobby shop - metal grinding dust is very minimal and generally takes place quit a distance from the wall with the tools on it.

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My tool cart lid is covered in magnets and it hasn't been an issue.

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Yikes. Permanent magnets on the fan motor. Those chains can conduct and magnetize other parts of the circuit boards and chips mounted and the signal buses are high frequency. You can see where that can go ...

I am surprised that you can keep electronic stuff like that with high frequency circuit boards working if you have that much magnetic dust !! If you are lucky, you can clean it out with a very strong and small vacuum nozzle while lightly brushing. I am sure you know, but for others: NEVER blow it out with compressed air!!!! That can scatter the magnetized strands in the circuit board creating lots of "fun."
My new laptop sits on a foam-rubber "filter" pad made for use in dusty environs. Hoping it works. Air intakes are on the bottom, outlets on the back.
 

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Congratulations on him winning the Lottery.
I would say my Snap-On rep is lucky to have me as a customer. One who's more of a collector and always pays 100% cash up front for everything I want. He reciprocates by going the extra mile to find obscure items I want to add to my collection in addition to the more mainstream tools. He's great with communication and promptness. I know I'm lucky to have him as my dealer, after reading so many stories of bad tool truck dealers. Maybe he's a Unicorn?
 

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My new laptop sits on a foam-rubber "filter" pad made for use in dusty environs. Hoping it works. Air intakes are on the bottom, outlets on the back.
That should help. Dust has a way of finding a way though.

Some advice if you are not aware or for others: You can buy cooling pads that are conduction cooled (like a small refrigerator) to deal with the heat and then plastic bag the device (or membrane over keyboard and replace it now and then). Stuff like that can be effective in really bad environments.

It could also be a good idea to use a small tablet (say if just looking at docs) that is much more sealed with less heat and put filters over any vent and plug ports. Touch screen keyboards will, by nature, be sealed and the dust might not interfere enough with the capacitance measuring response. Those can be better for work use anyway. Then keep computers with full keyboards, fans etc in another (clean air) room.

I do not want to see in your lungs .... ;) For the love of god ... never grind a permanent magnet !!!!
 

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I do not want to see in your lungs .... ;) For the love of god ... never grind a permanent magnet !!!!
Have you heard of "cow magnets"? I take the same approach--I inhaled a large RE magnet years ago. It catches all the dust before it gets deep in my lungs. I cough it up and clean it every couple of years.

Don't try this at home, kids!

I actually use a thing called an "N95 filter mask" when grinding/cutting. Coughing up black masses doesn't impress the ladies.
 

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Have you heard of "cow magnets"? I take the same approach--I inhaled a large RE magnet years ago. It catches all the dust before it gets deep in my lungs. I cough it up and clean it every couple of years.

Don't try this at home, kids!

I actually use a thing called an "N95 filter mask" when grinding/cutting. Coughing up black masses doesn't impress the ladies.
Good :)

I think they make visors with filtered electric fans. Those sound like they would be good ... positive pressure keeps crud out of the seams and forced air goes though a filter helping cool and keep clear vision.

I usually use N95 masks but it is an uncomfortable battle to keep them sealed and vision clear with glasses or goggles. Reminds me of Covid "fun" also.

It is amazing what comes up in Garage Journal discussions. But auto mechanics may be the most common category of contributor and things are sometimes stilted to that direction.
 

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This is what I will be fooling with (body work) - paint and filler dust and primer overspray are my biggest issues.

Just a home / retirement hobby shop - metal grinding dust is very minimal and generally takes place quit a distance from the wall with the tools on it.

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My tool cart lid is covered in magnets and it hasn't been an issue.
Wow. That is some serious space for a home retirement & hobby shop. Impressive!

My one experiment trying to paint a car with minimal room clean up and air control did NOT go well. In your case you might even want magnets to pick up crud in specific locations vs getting distributed.

It is sobering how much micro-droplet dust spray painting makes. I tried spraying latex paint once house painting and never went back to it due to it generating so much masking and clean up work.
 

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All depends on what you are doing. I am pretty sure guys doing metal work with grinders etc would loathe even light magnetization on tools they are using in their shops.

Demagnetization of ferromagnetic materials (like steel) is an interesting topic. There are a lot of junk products claiming to do that for small tools like magnetized screwdrivers tips. Example: put driver tip in some permanent magnet block with a hole in it to supposedly "demagnetize." That kind of stuff is likely worse than doing nothing for good physics reasons. Doing it right requires a pulsed oscillating magnetic field tuned to the specific need. That is not a triviality to get tuned right also.

I would agree for automotive stuff it may not matter much if a ratchet etc is magnetized unless you work around a lot of dust/grit that magnetically couples enough. If you do have small stuff that can be magnetized, you will notice quickly! Imagine working on sensitive circuits with the same wrenches dragging around conducting grit. Bad problems can follow.

One funny thing: I started using magnetic trays for parts while doing automotive disassembles. It is inevitable that you brush up against these with wrenches etc when working. This resulted in a magnetized wrench "gathering" a light steel part I needed ... which I could not find anywhere because it was stuck to the wrench in an awkward to notice position. I looked everywhere, only to find it a week later with a "look what we have here moment" after fabricating a kluge after giving up searching. But the magnetic trays also saved a few part scatters etc while working on our family cars (what ... me trip over a bowl of parts on the floor ?!?). Nothing is perfect, and context of uses set what may or may not be optimal.
If you absolutely need “non-magnetic” tools, there are specialty alloys for those, and places that sell the tools for those purposes, such as around MRI machines.
The basic magnetizer/demagnetizers, are made for general convenience.
 

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This is what HVLP sprayers are for. Larger, low-pressure droplets that go where you want them. Depending on siding type, you may need to back-brush.
Thanks. That is what i hear. I inherited a HVLP sprayer from my father, but I have yet to try using it. I gather HVLP is much better at not painting the room with dust as well as leaving a good, uniform finish. I am not sure they work well with LaTeX paint though (too thick unless diluted a lot?). I think he was using it for finishing handmade furniture (lacquer type finishes). I also gather HVLP is used a lot for things like car painting too. I have not had the time to try it out and figure I better experiment to find the best viscosity etc. I am also scared of cleaning spray systems after some painful experiences with LaTeX spray guns.
 

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Those are the ones , yes. Can't find them anywhere. I should have brought them with me.
After decades of use , they didn't look nearly that clean though

If you're shopping for some FACOMs that are similar, try Ebay. The secret word is "isoryl" when FACOM uses that handle. I'm seeing lots of individuals but no sets.

Here's the 13mm nutdriver by FACOM, with Isoryl handle:

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I have one of these in my shop if you want me to take pics, measurements.


Also, UltimateGarage in NJ is a source of FACOM. They will probably know if FACOM has given upon this kind of handle. But they've got several in stock and on sale.

 
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Waiting for me at the post office today were:
Gasgacinch gasket adhesive. NO LONGER has "Edelbrock" anywhere on the label, if you're having trouble finding it. Just search "gasgacinch" and you'll fine it online.

Weird! I checked the Edelbrock website, gone. If you look up a set of intake manifold gaskets, however, the product listing includes:

"We recommend the use of Edelbrock Gasgacinch (Part #9300) on the intake manifold mounting surfaces of the cylinder head and on the bottom side of the intake manifold gaskets (side without silicon beads). The Gasgacinch will secure the gaskets in place, ensuring a proper seal."

I wonder if Gasgsacinch isn't sensor safe? May have finally become an issue as more of their customers like EFI etc.
The only distributor listed in SoCal is Mazdatrix. Edelbrock isn't showing on their distributor map in SoCal or their new HQ in Mississippi. Odd!

Looks nice looking straight down at it. Turn the package sideways - that thing is 1/2" thick. Has what appears to be a wire stripper built in. I'm hoping my "Secret Santa" recipient will treasure it - I got more knives than I got fingers and toes.

1. I didn't send you this knife.

2.You say that like it's a bad thing! Maybe I'm an old coot but my large hand hasn't liked the march to make folding knives two-dimensional instead of three.
 

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I used to be really phobic on magnetizing tools since I did a lot of work on small electronic stuff where sometimes you wanted drivers magnetized and sometimes absolutely not. I also sometimes do metal work and grinding where magnetized tools can be a disaster picking up ferromagnetic crud. Couple that with the reality that demagnetization can be a pain (requires a decaying and oscillating field waveform to really do it correctly) so once something steel is magnetized it can be hard to get rid of it. I became a little less phobic with magnets around tools used mostly for automotive stuff in recent years. But it is still irksome when steel gets magnetized and picks up magnetic material dust etc in the garage.

Are other people phobic about magnetizing tools or do you not care? Magnetization certainly has virtues in some cases. Particularly, sockets with strong permanent magnets embedded within to help retain nuts when working in deep engine compartments and stuff like that can be life savers in cases where a drop can be a nightmare. But I try to keep that kind of stuff reasonably far away from ratchets, extensions etc to avoid unintended magnetizations. I also started using magnetic parts trays for cars in recent years and those are helpful to avoid scatter mishaps and keep things sorted (one tray per disassembled part etc to reduce combinatorics on "where did that go" type moments). Secondary magnetization pickup (part to tool) for automotive stuff tends to be small enough to not be a big problem.

I mostly do automotive stuff, and I don't worry much about magnets. Besides, magnets are like, miracles.

 
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This is what I will be fooling with (body work) - paint and filler dust and primer overspray are my biggest issues.

I invented this myself and then the internet taught me I sure wasn't the first: box fan with a good air filter on it. I just run mine 24/7/365 on low for general (not saw-) dust collection in the shop. You doing something like this, or maybe something more serious?

 

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I think the only reason for air impacts/ratchets these days is if you're into HD trucks, I mean real Class VIII trucks, a big 1" air impact and all the things required to operate it are the ticket. That's not very many people though.
I had this discussion with my friend a while back and he was crapping on the battery impact tools initially, but then a few week later he bought one of these
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and one of these
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But we all know how it is when your friends tell you need more tools...
Come to think of it, I think I need one of these
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Battery recharging is a lot less intrusive in your life than an 80 gallon compressor recharging.
Battery platform is handy for some things. I bought one of these heavy DeWalt 1/2” impacts and am impressed with the power it has but I would not want to handle this heavy thing all day long. Too heavy. I’ll be keeping my 1/2-3/4-1” air tools. Yes I’m retired but I still do side jobs now and then. Yes I’m older and not a strong as I used to be. Battery tools are great to the point of portability but they just haven’t gotten the technology right to make them comparable to air tools for weight
 
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