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PurdueSD

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Just got back from area plan and the building commision. Successful on the zoneing permit:bowdown: , the deconstruction permit was another story. When i went in to the building commision office, i found out that the gov't now wants you to jump through hoops to tear down a shoddily built garage, that they approved in the first place.
First step: Bring in a picture of the stucture you wish to tear down.
2nd step: place an intent for demolition notice in front of the build for 1 week.
3rd step: wait 7-10 days for the historical preservation people to say...duh, tear it down.

So that was a little hick-up in the road, but in a couple weeks we should be starting the tear down.

My father and i plan to build the new garage and tear the old one down. The only concern we've got right now is figuring out a way to get the old uni-pour footings/slab torn out without destroying my ashphalt driveway. Should be interesting.

The only work we will sub out on the new shop is the slab pour/ ashphault apron.

Heres what im starting with...22x44 P.O.S. it looks like it was made by one of those local garage builder companies 25 years ago. No overhangs, sagging homade 2x4 trusses, heaving concrete, steep approach, rotting siding..etc:

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Here's what will be replacing it:
30x56 shop with footings, foundation and 2x6 walls. 12' height far right stall, 10' height throughout the rest. Attic storage trusses. We are going to sink the elevation down, so the the approach has about a 6" fall over 10'.
(1) 10x10, (2) 8x10, (1) 9x7 doors. Here are the plans, let me know what you think...

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Oh man,
I love the high bay in the gable. My first thought was that your old shop wasn't too bad! Looking forward to seeing the progress and the pics. Keep them coming.
RickP
 
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Boo-yahhhh!

Got the Demo permit and the Building Permit today.

Demo should start next week, ill post progress pics.

Thanks for all the kind words guys!
 

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Looks good, thanx for Your reply to My post, thats what I'm after, is it prefab or custom/scratch build???? Is it gonna be wood or steel framed????
 
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Well here are some updates!

Building is gone and slab is being tore out in these pics. I didnt get to snap any deconstruction pics of the building. Was to busy sorting through all the mouse sh*&. Almost ever stud cavity was filled with some sort of rodent nest. There were spiders everywhere and we even got into some yellow jackets.

The 100HP skid steer wouldnt budge the unislab so we had to rent a jack hammer attachment. It went pretty smooth after that.

Hope you enjoy!

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Looks good so far..............Seeing disiduous trees all over is always a shocker to me. Mostely evergreens out here, plus we are in a drought, things are either brown or on fire!
 
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Here are the last of the updates/. This gets us up to current. Dont even ask about the two trees.

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I'm not replying to a guy who has Purdue in his username...;)

Just kidding. Project looks good. Keep the pictures coming.

-ben (Hoosier) :beer:
 

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Is it me or is there a guy standing near the tree to be pulled down in post #14, pic #7?
 

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I gotta ask, why didn't you use the blue tractor to pull the undercut tree down? Surely it has more bottom end than the pickup? (nice truck by the way, just looked like a task better suited to the tractor to me?)
 
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Is it me or is there a guy standing near the tree to be pulled down in post #14, pic #7?


Nope, i think thats just a plastic bag. We were both no where near it when we started yanking.

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Oh and Ben^ sorry for your misfortune. :)
 
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I gotta ask, why didn't you use the blue tractor to pull the undercut tree down? Surely it has more bottom end than the pickup? (nice truck by the way, just looked like a task better suited to the tractor to me?)



We did try the new holland, but it didnt do much. Its a 30hp and has low gearing but couldnt get traction. The tree just lifts the back tires. The truck has a little more weight.

What it finally took to get it down was the skid steer ramming it while i was pulling in low range with my truck. The ground under the old garage was a desert. Very very dry hard. This red oak had more roots on a oak than i had ever seen. The roots went out a couple feet and dove straight down.

Thanks for all the comments everyone. We got the footings dug today and inspected, ill try to get some more pictures up tomorrow.
 
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No windows?

Is security a big problem

I'm actually torn on this. I really cant decide whether i want any windows or not. There are 4 overhead doors that could be opened to get some daylight and or a nice breeze in.

Got any suggestions??
 

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I decided not to go with windows in mine. Security isn't an issue here, but with no windows that removes the chance of people peeking at what I've got stored inside. Also, the placement of windows would either overlook my neighbor's lot or get a lot of afternoon sun and heat the place up quite a bit.
 

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PurdueSD...

When you are in the house, do you open a window, or leave the door open?

I'm thinking that with the trees and such around, you most likely have a lot of bugs/mosquitoes?

But either way... if you plan on spending a fair amount of time out in the garage, say spring or fall esp. where you might like a bit of fresh air (but not to open up a full door)... windows would give you some great ventilation and cross breeze.

I don't know what your winters are like either, but again... thinking cracking a window open to air the place out a bit would be better than having to open a door?

Yep... they take up wall space... but sitting here today at 35C in the shade... I'm thinking the more ventilation the better :) (then again...air conditioning would be even better).

Oh yea... and blinds make it easy to hide what's inside, as well as keep the sun out on those really hot days :).
 

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I decided not to go with windows in mine. Security isn't an issue here, but with no windows that removes the chance of people peeking at what I've got stored inside. Also, the placement of windows would either overlook my neighbor's lot or get a lot of afternoon sun and heat the place up quite a bit.

I made the same choice for my garage. Crime isn't a "problem" where I am, but why invite trouble? My one concession to natural light...I put a small arch window up in the north gable. It's double pane glass, so energy loss shouldn't be too bad. I'll pick up a little natural light, and it's a good 12-15 feet off the ground, so security shouldn't be an issue.

If you want another compromise, consider some glass block for light. A friend of mine has some of this in his shop, and it is nice. Not much help with ventilation, though.
 

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I decided not to go with windows in mine. Security isn't an issue here, but with no windows that removes the chance of people peeking at what I've got stored inside.


I'm with you. Why invite trouble. If they can see something worth stealing, then they'll break in. Plus you don't have to worry about nosy neighbors wanting to borrow any tools.....
 

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Oh and Ben^ sorry for your misfortune. :)

It is unfortunate that he went to IU.

The garage plan looks great. Can't wait to see some update pics.

If you're looking for natural light and ventilation, how about using a ventilating skylight or two? Some are available with electric motors so you aren't working with a long clumsy hand crank.
 
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If you're looking for natural light and ventilation, how about using a ventilating skylight or two? Some are available with electric motors so you aren't working with a long clumsy hand crank.

I have something personal against skylights. To me if you put a window in a roof, you deserve it to leak...haha. Anyways, i'm going to have attic storage trusses, so they wouldnt do me much good.


Ahh decisions, decisions.

Ill post some pics of the block work tomorrow if i get a chance. Working on the garage from 11-3:30 and the giong to work from 5-3:30 is killing me. But it will definatley be worth it. I'm just glad to finally be building up instead of digging down.
 

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I had two windows on the South side of my garage which open into my yard. Never seemed to be enough ventilations. I ended up putting in an attic fan at the back of the garage to vent out the heat on those 90 degree day's and it made an incredible difference. Without it i couldn't even work in the back of my garage ( my garage is 40 feet deep ).

This year i added two more windows on the North side and I can't tell you how happy I am that i did. What a difference it's so nice working in the garage with Natural light.

Option B - would be to frame in windows and then just side over them. This way if you decide that you want to add Windows later then all you have to do is cut the siding.

just my 2 cents
 
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UPDATES!!!

Done with block as of today. Its been terrible in the 100* days weve been having!!!

The trac hoe was actually halfway enjoyable.
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Dads hard at it..
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Block work, not so enjoyable.
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Dont have pictures , but we got the last section of 10" block and short wall between the overheads done today.
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Hopefully we'll get the inspector out tomorrow and move on to some wood!
We'll both be glad to have this part out of the way.
 
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Inspector showed up today, got out of his truck...looked left, looked right. Stuck the "passed inspection" tag on one of the bolts and left. Thats the kind of inspectors i like to see...haha.

I am going to start putting the plates on tomorrow, its only supposed to be 101 degrees...
 

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Yeah, my footing inspection consisted of the guy coming out, looking in the hole, and asking "Is that rebar?" :)
He must have a brother in S. Fl. :) was helping my buddy pour his footer, the inspector came over and asked "Is that rebar" while looking in the trench...I said "nope, just a piece of wire we threw in there"....:bounce:
 

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As long as it's dry, take the heat. Be glad you're not trying to build in Northwest Indiana right now. In addition to temps in the high 80s and high humidity, we've had about 15" of rain this month - 2" or so every other day. Today also brought high wind - gusts to 80 mph. I've got thunder and lightning out my window now which means we're getting ready for the third round of heavy thunderstorms since 3pm today.

If you see the reports about the Chicago weather today, it's a ***** trying to go anywhere or do anything. A lot of major roads are under water. The ones not under water have down trees or down power lines - interstates aren't exempt. 80/94 in Indiana was under water at rush hour with stranded semis. 80 near New Lenox, IL had a power line down across all lanes. The Edens in Chicago was under about 4' of water. It just reopened after closing during evening rush hour.

They're saying tomorrow will be as bad or worse than today. Can't wait to drive to work.
 

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Rain, whats that..... We havent had any rain here in TN for atleast a month and a half.... Out of the last 21 days 20 of them have been in the 100's.... Everything is dying or already dead. I would LOOOOOVE to see some rain.....Its so fricken hot here, I think todays index put the temps up to about 115, next week its supposed to be around 95 WOOOOHOOO
 
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