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SouthernIllinois

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I recently won an LED Snap-On light that I want to hang on my shop wall (metal liner) with magnetic hooks.

Looking for the strongest magnetic hooks I can find. Something about 1-2” in diameter with a hook.

I have some like the ones pictured below but they just aren’t quite strong enough.

Thanks in advance

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I've removed an used the regular metal screws for hanging stuff or to install whatever length 1x3 or other small wood piece to attach to normally without new holes in the wall.👍
Thought of that but where I want to hang it is nowhere near an existing screw is and I am trying to avoid drilling holes in the interior of the new building.
 

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Magnets aren't great to hold against sliding like that. They're much stronger in direct pull. You need something to support it in shear. That could be as simple as a thin strip of metal attached horizontally to the siding with double sided tape (VHB type) that the magnets you already have rest on, to prevent them from sliding down.

Also, remember that the thinner the metal, the less pull the magnet has on it. So, again, a strip of thicker steel taped (or epoxied) to the wall might help.
 
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These from Harbor Freight are incredibly strong. Very hard to remove off a metal surface with one hand. Takes two hands to get mine off. The only complaint is that the "hook" is small. I'm sure they could be made larger or drill out the rivet and use a larger one.

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I order magnets that I can run a bolt and nut through to hang still like that. Get ones with a rubber boot and it won't be as likely to slide. Then I make my own hooks from 11 ga sheet that are much stronger than wire.

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This is similar to some of the hooks I've made. This one obviously isn't on a magnet. Sorry for using a potato.
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As mentioned above, the US General magnetic hooks have decent pull. I have W metal panel in my shop that is probably similar to your metal liner. One should hold it with no problem. Two definitely would if you need to orient it a certain way.
 

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Is it possible to drill mounting holes on the back of the light ? If so, could you use a HF magnetic strip and bolt to the back of the light ? Effectively making the back of the light a big magnet ?
I don't think that's going to work, the magnet would only touch the high spots on the metal panel.

@SouthernIllinois what's the light weigh?
 

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I don't think that's going to work, the magnet would only touch the high spots on the metal panel.

@SouthernIllinois what's the light weigh?
The top of a rib is flat isn't it ? Looking at the sign on my phone, it appears to be plastic and my thought is lightweight..

Those magnetic strips are pretty damn strong, more than what I would expect. I mounted one in a pull out tool board in a compartment of the Engine for quick access to recip saw blades. Someone stuck a old school chrome Arrow T50 stapler on it. As rough as a fire truck rides that damn stapler hasn't moved.
 

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The top of a rib is flat isn't it ? Looking at the sign on my phone, it appears to be plastic and my thought is lightweight..

Those magnetic strips are pretty damn strong, more than what I would expect. I mounted one in a pull out tool board in a compartment of the Engine for quick access to recip saw blades. Someone stuck a old school chrome Arrow T50 stapler on it. As rough as a fire truck rides that damn stapler hasn't moved.

I agree it's probably lightweight, but IIRC the mag strips are at least 12" wide, so that's going to span several ribs (unless I'm missing something with the panel orientation) and have very little contact patch.

There's a bunch of magnets at HD or TSC, pretty sure they have weight ratings and maybe even in "shear". Unless this sign is huge/heavy I'd think a couple will work.

I bought these a while back:


Mounted them to a piece of 3/16 steel angle with 4 mini LED bars on it, stays on the tractor ROPS no problem.

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I don't think that's going to work, the magnet would only touch the high spots on the metal panel.

@SouthernIllinois what's the light weigh?
The light doesn’t weigh much at all.

The ribs are 9 3/4” apart. I would put the magnets on the flat part.

I have hung several framed posters in the shop that way but this light is just a little heavier.
 
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These from Harbor Freight are incredibly strong. Very hard to remove off a metal surface with one hand. Takes two hands to get mine off. The only complaint is that the "hook" is small. I'm sure they could be made larger or drill out the rivet and use a larger one.

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I think this might be the answer. Thanks
 
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Rare earth magnetic hooks are what you are looking for.
I bought some from Home Depot and hang extension cords and levels and such on the sides of my garage cabinets.

I have bought these exact ones several times. They have worked well for a lot of things. They may even work for the light if I put a small strip of duct tape below them to prevent them from sliding.

I have used them to hang frames pictures and posters in the shed.

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I have bought these exact ones several times. They have worked well for a lot of things. They may even work for the light if I put a small strip of duct tape below them to prevent them from sliding.

I have used them to hang frames pictures and posters in the shed.

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Couple strands of clear fishing line tied to that conduit?
 
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As a follow up, I checked out the HF magnetic strips. Unless you run them vertically, they are not going to work, for 2 reasons. One, the magnets are recessed just a bit under the edge of the channel they are set in and secondly, there's not enough "steel mass" in the ribbed siding.

I went out to the garage and checked the one I have on the ribbed siding... however, when stuck to the bottom of and "I" beam, in same fashion, there's enough mass for them to stick.


BTW, @SouthernIllinois I knew you were retired Navy but didn't realize a Master Chief. Quite the accomplishment. :beer:
 

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Get a conduit hanger, put a hook on it and hang it on the vertical conduit?
 

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The HF magnetic hooks are pretty strong, but the hook is small and they are also 3" in diameter. I have two holding up a large paper desk calendar on a freezer door, they don't move unless I REALLY apply some force.

Strongest? Neodymium magnets. Those things are VERY strong (for good grade ones anyway).

Try Amazon or the above magnetic site link or check out

https://www.kjmagnetics.com/products/magnetic-hooks.

(Neat site with not just products but also info and explanations and projects about and with magnets. Go ahead, fall down that rabbit hole. 😁)
 

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I was under a time crunch to build a dog proof gate at our cabin & ended up buying a fishing magnet with an eye hook to attach it to a steel post. I figured I'd do it the right way later & have a powerful magnet to use at our dock. Alas, it remains unchanged.

It is way stronger than I needed. Would be easy to remove the eye hook & replace with a hook.

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As soon as I saw that picture, I thought hang from conduit. . . depending where he want's it hung. Conduit is going to make it easy adding an outlet for the sign as well.

Couple strands of clear fishing line tied to that conduit?

That pic was kind of deceiving. That is the south end of the shop.

I want to hang the light on the north end. On that end I ran the conduit lowered and horizontally. The blue pipe near the ceiling is an aluminum air line. I really don’t want to hang anything from it. I got lucky installing it and don’t have any leaks and I don’t want to risk creating one.

This is where I want to hang it - centered between the two windows. All that shelving and storage totes are going in the new pole barn when weather permits.

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That pic was kind of deceiving. That is the south end of the shop.

I want to hang the light on the north end. On that end I ran the conduit lowered and horizontally. The blue pipe near the ceiling is an aluminum air line. I really don’t want to hang anything from it. I got lucky installing it and don’t have any leaks and I don’t want to risk creating one.

This is where I want to hang it - centered between the two windows. All that shelving and storage totes are going in the new pole barn when weather permits.

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Dimensions on the sign?

Weight?
 

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Options:

Piece or pieces of unistrut or angle iron or flat bar or wood with attached or embedded neodymium magnets of the desired size, shape, and strength to hold themselves and the sign to the sheet metal wall panels.

If the sign is 'thin' material, the desired size, shape, and strength to hold right through the sign to the sheet metal wall panels. Sort of like fridge magnets holding something to the fridge door. Might not work out depending on the sign dimensions vs the wall panel rib spacing.

VHB tape.

VHB tape attaching a mounting bar/strip to the wall panels and then the sign is attached to the mounting bars/strips.

PSA velcro.

A complete wooden or metal picture frame to hold the sign and then the frame is attached to the wall panels as desired. Front glazing optional, but could reduce or eliminate wind flapping and dust, crud, and cob webs.

Rivnuts. 😁

Blind rivets to attach mounting tabs or strips to the wall panels.

There are options. 👍
 

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Or just use a couple of magnetic hooks to the wall panel just like you did for the other signs. Double them up and use some chain or string to hang the sign.

You have options.
 

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I have had these Harbor Freight hooks for a while. I believe they are rated for 25 lbs but as a previous poster mentioned that probably isn't what they can hold if allowed to slide vertically.

So I took one & hung a 10lb plate from it on my son's weight rack. It held:

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We tried 15 lbs & it slid. I'm actually curious to know how much our fishing magnet would hold but it's not here.

I assume this is what we have.

 

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Couple strands of clear fishing line tied to that conduit?
A couple of strands of fishing line from the screws just above where it will be mounted (already in the liner panel). No new holes and no sliding. Maybe a magnet too just to keep it from swinging in the wind when a door is open.
 

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Magnets need thickness to be effective - a lot of the examples shown in this thread are to things that are a lot thicker than 28ga building liner.

It is quite amazing how fast the strength falls off. Just look at the specs on a permanent magnet for lifting.
 

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I thought I was losing my mind. I was certain I had seen the your sign on the metal building FB group. It just popped up again at random. Very cool sign and nice shop.
 
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