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Above 1200 Sq/FT New Shop and House at the Lake! (4000ft2?)

Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.

kberjian

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I have been absent from this forum for a while as I had finished the build of the shop at my current home and didn't have anything worthwhile to share. Here is the old shop 3000ft2 Hot Rod Shop

I was fortunate to be able to buy 7 acres beside a lake. The land is ~300' wide and long going from the lake up to the highway. There is about 200' of elevation gain with three flat shelfs on the way. The property was heavily treed up until 2021 when a forest fire came through and burnt right down to the lake, it took all the trees, the old cabin that was there and even a piece of the dock. The owner at the time was quite old and ended up passing away shortly after. The burnt trees were all fallen and logged with a bunch of it milled and left behind covered in tarps. Fast forward 4 years and the family put the property up for sale and I bought it. The lot was untouched that 4 years and had become over grown with tall weeds and the nicely milled wood was rotting and weathered.
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I drove out with my trailer, rented a skid steer and chainsaw for a week, and went to work! I wanted to clean up the water front area (80' deep by 300' wide) to get it ready for a camper being placed there this summer.
I loaded one load of wood on my trailer to take home and then used the skid steer with forks to try to move the rest up to the back of the lot away from the waterfront. It was 30ish loads and I had to cut many of the pieces in half to be able to get them up the narrow road. I used the chainsaw to section a bunch of fallen trees and move them out of the way as well. I used the bucket to cut off the weeds off the top and also used some of the material to smooth out the access road ramp down to this area. Also found a bunch of landscaping blocks buried in the wood piles too. So many fun little surprises! It was 5 hard days of work to get it all cleared up.
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My family came out for the weekend and they had a great time pulling weeds, swimming, fishing and just exploring the land. Can't wait to do it more with them in years to come. I put some non-pressure treated wood down to get access back out to the dock. Out of picture attachment capacity so continuing in the next post!
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kberjian

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Also was having fun and built a small deck out of the 4x6 rough cut wood. Makes for a nice place to get out of the sun and take a look around! Overall it was a good bit of progress and I am excited to keep going.

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Big picture plan is to build a house down at the water (4500ft2 or so) and a new shop that is 4000ft2 with a cold storage on the side sometime in the next 2-3 years. Permitting here takes a long time due to the riparian, slope, enviro assessments that are needed to get your permits approved. Here is the location of the buildings and the style we are planning for the house at the water.
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Aladinsane07

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This should be pretty epic. Congrats on the purchase. Any idea yet of what amount of the work you're going to tackle vs. shop out to contractors?
 
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kberjian

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This should be pretty epic. Congrats on the purchase. Any idea yet of what amount of the work you're going to tackle vs. shop out to contractors?
I think I will let the pros do the house so my wife doesn't judge my work too harshly. For the shop I will have them put up the walls and concrete floor then do everything else myself inside, same as my last one. I found the journey to be half the fun so want to do it again. Retirement needs things to keep me busy.
 
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kberjian

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We wanted to be able to enjoy the lake before we built a house so we wanted a camper that had space for us and our 4 kids to be comfortable for a few weeks at a time out there. I tried looking at some newer trailers but didn't want to spend 50k like most wanted for something that comfortably sleeps 6. I ended up finding this Heartland Cyclone 3210 toy hauler at an auction because of some front end cladding damage and took it home for 3k. It has a generator built in, big queen bed at the front, a queen over the toy hauler, and a big toy hauler room at the back. The AC blows cold in all areas which is key with how hot it gets out at the lake. I was pretty pleased to find that everything works from the central vac, water heater, fridge, power inverter, 6 batteries, and I didn't even find any water damage in the walls or floor. I worked with my boys to build out the toy hauler with 4 bunk beds as well, each bed has a shelf, light and fan for enhanced teenager comfort. Since I can't get line power onto the lot until I start building the house I needed to figure out an offgrid solution. I decided to go heavy on solar and will use the 1600W of solar panels charging the 6ea 6V batteries in the trailer with a 3000W inverter. I ended up just plugging the campers shore power plug straight to the inverter and that allows us to just start the generator if we run low on battery and it will not backfeed into the inverter. From my trials I am getting 1000W in from solar and the AC draws 900-1100W when running. Overall it should work well enough for 90% of the time. Even got a Starlink mini to bring with us to ensure the kids texts can keep flowing.

The trailer weighs 11,000lbs so it is a beast but it will only get moved once down to the lake and the it will stay there for a long long time.
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kberjian

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Great project OP….

you ever had lakefront property before?

Mine was over grown and took me 4-5 years to get it the way I wanted…I love your new home design.

Here is a teaser for you to look forward to…
That is exactly what I want! love the landscaping. Scenery looks pretty similar!
 

tarmy

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That is exactly what I want! love the landscaping. Scenery looks pretty similar!
The part of your story that hit me…is the fire.

5 years ago we were surrounded by the Dixie fire….the only thing not burnt for 30 miles in every direction is in that pic. We were lucky…and our immediate area is nice…but fire can ruin things.

plant trees now, as soon as you can. By the time you finish building they will be looking good and instantly help get things looking the way you want.
 
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Struggled to find someone who would pull the trailer so I did something irrational and bought a truck. IT is a 2013 F350 with the 6.2L gas engine and it was a work truck in northern Alberta but still has lots of life in it with only 165,000 kms on it. I was able to get it at a very good price at $9000 Canadian. I drove 7 hours up to get it in a rental car then jumped in it and drove home another 7 hours. Unloaded it did decent for fuel economy at 13L/100km (18 MPG).

When I got it home I gave it some love to remove the spare tire mount, CB radio, backup alarm, etc. Also decided to give it the 200$ makeover with stripping the old wood and paint, giving it a new coat of black paint, and pressure treated decking. Was a fun day of work with my boys and made a big difference in how the truck looks and feels.

To get it to hook up to the fifth wheel I got a gooseneck to fifth wheel adapter. I hadn't work with this type of hitch before but was surprised at how easy it worked out. I was able to get the trailer hooked up without any issues. At the worst angle I had 2" of clearance from the corner of the flat deck to the front of the trailer.

The wiring was a bit wild because as soon as I plugged the trailers 7 pin into the truck it immediately blew a fuse in the truck for the rear brakelights and signals. After diagnosing I found that the junction box at the back of the truck where they connected the factory wiring to the flat deck wiring and trailer pin wiring was wrong. It was backfeeding the trailers 12V power from the batteries back into the tail light circuit. After getting that fixed I was ready to roll!

The drive out to the lake is 600km or so through the mountains so lots of steep climbs, decents and high thin air. The truck did amazing and it averaged at 28L/100km (8.5MPG). Was able to power up the hills and maintain a decent speed. Getting the trailer down the hill to the final resting place was exciting due to the steep gravel road. Ended up having all 4 truck tires and the trailer tires all skidding at various times but I kept it straight and slow and got it down into place. Since it will be there for a while I put a bunch of jacks under it to stabilize. Excited to make my way out there with the family soon to start enjoying it!

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Almost looks like Peach Land? If so, we just visited there for the first time since I was a teen and man is it ever beautiful out there.
If it isn't, well, it's still beautiful!
 
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