Let's see your toolbox.

[2barevo]

Is anyone running a similar tray like pictured to get some more real estate from their service cart? I dont have access to a sheet metal bender and wanted to see if a tray like this can be purchased.

 

[Callelle]

Is anyone running a similar tray like pictured to get some more real estate from their service cart? I dont have access to a sheet metal bender and wanted to see if a tray like this can be purchased.

Snap-on Store

shop.snapon.com

These are the ones Snap On makes for their boxes / carts. I've been trying to find one similar to see if it would fit my USG cart, but haven't found anything solid.

 

[Deutchewelder]

Here’s the Craftsman box that I bought in ‘98 for what seemed like a fortune at $400. Just posted a thread about upgrading the casters on it.

 

[LXCam]

Is anyone running a similar tray like pictured to get some more real estate from their service cart? I dont have access to a sheet metal bender and wanted to see if a tray like this can be purchased.

I have one in my KRL. It’s pretty shallow so all that’s in it are pencils/markers, **** like that.

 

[2barevo]

Snap-on Store

shop.snapon.com

These are the ones Snap On makes for their boxes / carts. I've been trying to find one similar to see if it would fit my USG cart, but haven't found anything solid.

ive been looking into meat or display trays but havent found the right size. Has to be around 28" wide.

 

[MR2FC]

Is anyone running a similar tray like pictured to get some more real estate from their service cart? I dont have access to a sheet metal bender and wanted to see if a tray like this can be purchased.

If it's for lighter stuff, you could probably knock up something from aluminium without a bender?

 

[Hakeem]

Nothing too fancy but it holds my tools!

 

[Tchicken]

I have been looking for a new box - the Masterforce seems sturdy enough for my garage. Rebranded by Montezuma for Lowes I think - anyplace else to find them?

 

[Ericmacc]

Masterforce is a menards brand

 

[Tchicken]

Yeah, I mis-spoke on the Masterforce - I saw them at Menard's. But they mirror some of the models on Montezuma's website, albeit without some bells & whistles at a much lower price

 

[kinglukas38]

Properly bolted on my side cabinet yesterday and made a proper top for the whole thing. Would definitely make a few changes if I had to do this again but for now I'm fairly satisfied

 

[MWEric]

Traded two (KIQ and USG) for one and some cash. My dealer gave me a deal I couldn’t pass up, probably because the terrible color combination.

 

[MWEric]

Man was that post poorly worded. I traded the two boxes for the KPA1022. The KIQ is an older Snap On box. Anyway the SO box was those two boxes and $5K. Here it is next to my KRL1023.

 

[AJHD]

I've been making some changes lately... moving stuff around and actually buying new tools again.

For anyone curious, all of my diagnostic/electronics related tools are kept in the house. I don't like leaving them in the 120*F+ heat of the garage if I don't have to.

 

[Dave455]

Error

 

[CGarage]

I've been making some changes lately... moving stuff around and actually buying new tools again.

For anyone curious, all of my diagnostic/electronics related tools are kept in the house. I don't like leaving them in the 120*F+ heat of the garage if I don't have to.

Take the batteries out, also.

Very important.

 

[Outlawmws]

Take the batteries out, also.

Very important.

If they use AA, AAA or 9V, use EverReady Lithium disposable batteries - no leaks, better discharge curve, and 10 - 20 year shelf life.

 

[CGarage]

If they use AA, AAA or 9V, use EverReady Lithium disposable batteries - no leaks, better discharge curve, and 10 - 20 year shelf life.

I still would not keep them in electronics in a high heat environment.

 

[Outlawmws]

I still would not keep them in electronics in a high heat environment.

I keep them in things that are stored permanently inside our car and rigs, and those temps get real high. I have one emergency flashlight still on the same battery for over 20 years.

Keeping the electronics out of the heat; understandable. the batteries don't matter if Lith.

 

[CGarage]

I keep them in things that are stored permanently inside our car and rigs, and those temps get real high. I have one emergency flashlight still on the same battery for over 20 years.

Keeping the electronics out of the heat; understandable. the batteries don't matter if Lith.

A flashlight is generally not difficult or expensive to replace.

A high end scan tool or DMM on the other hand…Not worth taking the risk.

 

[Outlawmws]

A flashlight is generally not difficult or expensive to replace.

A high end scan tool or DMM on the other hand…Not worth taking the risk.

Your're not listening - there is no risk of leakage from the disposable Lith cells ...

 

[CGarage]

Your're not listening - there is no risk of leakage from the disposable Lith cells ...

I am.

I stand by what I recommended.
Furthermore, lithium batteries can leak or rupture, which can damage electronics and circuit boards.

 

[drokihazan]

Take the batteries out, also.

Very important.

Lithium batteries are not going to cause issues to your diag tools and torque wrenches. They're just not.

 

[CGarage]

Lithium batteries are not going to cause issues to your diag tools and torque wrenches. They're just not.

It’s not worth the risk.
I remove the batteries.

I have some rare diagnostic scan tools no longer made from the early 90s to set air / fuel ratios and perform OBD1 basics and I store all of them without batteries.

I can afford the two minutes it takes to put in lithium batteries when needed.

When something is no longer available and no longer made, you need to think differently and treat that item as if it would be difficult to replace— because it is.

Edit: misspelled word

 

[drokihazan]

there is no risk

 

[Outlawmws]

I am.

I stand by what I recommended.
Furthermore, lithium batteries can leak or rupture, which can damage electronics and circuit boards.

You are confusing the rechargeables, with the disposables; completely different tech. - But you do you.

 

[racecougar]

It’s not worth the risk.

 

[AEAdam]

there is no risk

If you googled "Can Lithium batteries rupture/leak/catch fire" what would the answers be? If you put "rechargeable" or "disposable" in front of "Lithium" would it change the answers?

This just isn't one of those things where one simply can't say there's no risk. Only low risk or high risk. And I think batteries are effected by physical damage, environmental issues etc etc.

 

[CGarage]

If you googled "Can Lithium batteries rupture/leak/catch fire" what would the answers be? If you put "rechargeable" or "disposable" in front of "Lithium" would it change the answers?

This just isn't one of those things where one simply can't say there's no risk. Only low risk or high risk. And I think batteries are effected by physical damage, environmental issues etc etc.

Quite a few cowboys around here where spending the two extra minutes to install and remove batteries would be too much effort for them. And they —falsely believe— that there is nothing to worry about and are willing to risk their high end electronics.

This same thinking reminds me of the case of the basketball player and wanting to avoid California traffic by taking the helicopter. The pilot flies in bad weather to save time and the helicopter crashes. No survivors. Same symptoms and bad judgement.

 

[Outlawmws]

If you googled "Can Lithium batteries rupture/leak/catch fire" what would the answers be? If you put "rechargeable" or "disposable" in front of "Lithium" would it change the answers?

If it is different answers then you are relying on a delusional AI generated response. Do proper research.

Quite a few cowboys around here where spending the two extra minutes to install and remove batteries would be too much effort for them. And they —falsely believe— that there is nothing to worry about and are willing to risk their high end electronics.

That "Cowboy" comment cuts both ways ... But again you do you...

This same thinking reminds me of the case of the basketball player and wanting to avoid California traffic by taking the helicopter. The pilot flies in bad weather to save time and the helicopter crashes. No survivors. Same symptoms and bad judgement.

And this is one of the most ridiculous comparisons I can even imagine.

 

[CGarage]

If it is different answers then you are relying on a delusional AI generated response. Do proper research.




That "Cowboy" comment cuts both ways ... But again you do you...




And this is one of the most ridiculous comparisons I can even imagine.

Ability to correctly apply risk mitigation / management and critical thinking in your ‘decision tree’ flow model process should be re-assessed.

The comparison is actually a good one. The same people who make rash and flawed decisions with the simple things are apt to make the same kinds of decisions when human life is on the line.

 

[Outlawmws]

Ability to correctly apply risk mitigation / management and critical thinking in your ‘decision tree’ flow model process should be re-assessed.

The comparison is actually a good one. The same people who make rash and flawed decisions with the simple things are apt to make the same kinds of decisions when human life is on the line.

^^^^

 

[CGarage]

^^^^

What he said

 

[AEAdam]

If it is different answers then you are relying on a delusional AI generated response. Do proper research.

I don't consider googling stuff "research" but I did google it and got the answer you would expect. Whatever I put in, the answer was YES, there's a risk of combustion of leakage or whatever you typed specifically for whatever lithium battery type. They are batteries. You may have said it earlier: Alkaline batteries have risks. I have some old AA MagLites with swollen batteries to prove it.

Silly to argue there is NO chance of damage by leaving batteries in a device you care about. Of course there's a risk. How LARGE is the risk? Is it like the same risk as an alkaline battery? Why try to convince someone being careful they should be less careful?

We need to move on because this is off topic for this thread. I would just say to bring it back ON TOPIC, I'm not 100% sure about leaving lithium batteries on chargers. So I'm not 100% sure I want to retro fit my old toolbox with a "power drawer". I don't use my toolbox every day or every week. And I don't use power tools on my cars on every repair. So maybe it's smarter, given that there ARE risks associated with ALL batteries, to store batteries somewhere away from heat sources, out of direct sun light, and store them some place visible (i.e. not in a "power drawer"). Not trying to scare anyone. The sky isn't falling. The convenience of a power drawer simply isn't worth the 1 in 10 million chance of something going wrong TO ME.

 

[Outlawmws]

The topic and my comments were specifically non-rechargble disposable lithium batteries, but whatever. I've tried to disengage twice now; so one more time: You do you...

I'm done with this.

 

[LWB]

Back on subject. Old school...

 

[L.Cheapo]

there is no risk

There is most certainly risk. It is lower risk than alkaline, but I can assure you lithium batteries can and do leak.

I had CR2450s leak in my Miller Digital Infinity welding helmet. The helmet lives in my climate controlled house, as all my expensive electronics do.

I wish I had taken pictures. It took me a solid hour to get those batteries out and clean up the mess they made. They were Energizer batteries. Never again.

 

[Jgaz]

Back on subject. Old school...

Love the old school!
One question though, do you use lithium batteries in it?

 

[LWB]

Love the old school!
One question though, do you use lithium batteries in it?

Thanks. Just in my flashlights, impacts, etc. Funny enough, I left my AA batteries in a brand new Wurth tire inflator/gauge and the first time I went to use it the batteries were **** and leaked all over the place. I was lucky and was able to clean the contacts. It's alive!

 

[racecougar]

My main box is an ancient Snap-On base cabinet with Craftsman mid and top. I have an old Waterloo base cabinet set up by my drill press for drill bits, reamers, countersinks, taps, dies, etc. I also keep a Kennedy base cabinet up at the house garage for typical home repair tools.

I refinished the '67 Snap-On KRA-300B base cabinet a couple years ago to better match the Craftsman mid and top.

If anyone has a lead on the drawer I'm missing, please reach out!


And I'm wholeheartedly against leaving batteries in any worthwhile tool.