Aaron_W
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Agree, at this point Walmart is just known for being a cheap one stop shop and that is it.
Walmart Getting Serious About Tools in 2026?
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Agree, at this point Walmart is just known for being a cheap one stop shop and that is it.
At this point? That’s been their whole Schtick since day one. And it seems to work for them.
Aaron_W
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We didn't get Walmart in California until the 90s and by then they were certainly going for cheap, but I don't think that was always their model.
four.cycle
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More to the point:
Hand tools were always one of the lower margin items sold in a retail setting.
Traditionally, that's the way the pricing was structured:
Hand tools = you were lucky to clear a 40% net margin
Air freshners, car wax, chrome widgets = 70% - 80%
It's still that way, just not set up the same as far as distribution levels.
Not as much money to be made on tools as on laundry detergent, diapers, and coffee pots.
Retailer will always go where the profit is.
Tools are just a "sideline" thing they offer as a convenience in an attempt to keep all of that customer's purchases "in house".
I don’t go to Lowe’s often but when I do, it seems like they have the same dust covered piles of craftsman tools. They had there the last time.
Walmart is a discount retailer and I’m hard-pressed tell a company that has 550 billion a year revenue. They don’t know what they’re doing.
Besides, we all know that nowadays,the name, “craftsman”evokes emotion and very little else
Besides Walmart slaps the name “hyper tough “on all kinds of inexpensive tools and sells them relatively cheap prices
That’s pretty much what Walmart does.
Walmart is a discount retailer and I’m hard-pressed tell a company that has 550 billion a year revenue. They don’t know what they’re doing.
Besides, we all know that nowadays,the name, “craftsman”evokes emotion and very little else
Besides Walmart slaps the name “hyper tough “on all kinds of inexpensive tools and sells them relatively cheap prices
That’s pretty much what Walmart does.
whateg01
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I really thought they were going to pull some hair from the wheelWell, this explains it
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Walmart has always been a discount retailer. High volume low margin has always been their thing.
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FYI, this little Hyper Tough tool is great:
It’s the tiny handheld blower Milwaukee should make using M12. It’s tiny! Compared to my Makita for scale:
I’ll keep it on the bench at home and may pickup another for work. USB-C charging pack and good build quality. I was impressed with the airflow for such a small tool but more impressive is the tiny size and great form factor. It’s my first Hyper Tough tool.
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It’s the tiny handheld blower Milwaukee should make using M12. It’s tiny! Compared to my Makita for scale:
I’ll keep it on the bench at home and may pickup another for work. USB-C charging pack and good build quality. I was impressed with the airflow for such a small tool but more impressive is the tiny size and great form factor. It’s my first Hyper Tough tool.
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milkovich
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DeWalt is just a house brand for HD at this point. SBD painted themselves into a corner chasing this quarters numbers over and over while screwing all their other distributors to push more through HD. It's so bad, someone with the buying power of Menard's doesn't even bother with Dewalt even though they carry Irwin/Bostich/etc.
There's tons of DeWALT at Lowes
For some reason I always think of HD as Milwaukee and Ryobi. Lowe’s is more of a Dewalt store along with smaller chains like Ace and farm stores.
milkovich
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I believe TTI has an even higher proportion of their business going through HD, but at least they treat their other distributors well. I think it's more like a Mexican standoff between TTI and HD, each needs the other whereas SBD and HD is more like an abusive relationship. Interestingly, ChatGPT seems to think Amazon is a larger outlet for DeWalt than HD but I kind of doubt that. There are 3rd party sellers and knockoffs as well as SBD and Amazon themselves selling on Amazon, it'd be interesting to see the real numbers. What I do know for a fact is that SBD quarterly promo prices to distributors are above HD's retail "on sale" price in many cases making it pretty pointless to try to sell 20v product even at the 10-15% margin online retailers try to survive on and HD moves about 50-60% more DeWalt than Lowes.
Walmart is a discounter.
Why would DeWalt want to dilute their already cutthroat-pricing product market further?
I had a lady I had previously purchased items from on FBMP contact me and say she had some literature I could have. Since it was right down the road I took a shot and grabbed two grocery bags filled with these. Some.cool old stuff!!! If anyone needs anything let me know I'm sure we can work something out.
four.cycle
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OH! WOW!
@NYBODYMAN please get ahold of @Mark Stansbury: GarageJournal.com member and Site Administrator for International Tool Catalog Library.
He can take those, scan them, convert them in to *.pdf files, upload them to ITCL, and then return the originals back to you.
He has done dozens of catalogs for me - and many for other members. 100% professional at this stuff.
And archive.org does have a "manuals" section.
email Mark
@NYBODYMAN please get ahold of @Mark Stansbury: GarageJournal.com member and Site Administrator for International Tool Catalog Library.
He can take those, scan them, convert them in to *.pdf files, upload them to ITCL, and then return the originals back to you.
He has done dozens of catalogs for me - and many for other members. 100% professional at this stuff.
And archive.org does have a "manuals" section.
email Mark
I meant to post this in the garage sale thread. Not sure how it ended up in here. I will repost there.
@Mark Stansbury let me know if you want to scan any of these
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I just bought both the Hypertough Blower and Right Angle Grinder
Wow... Grinder w battery $60
Blower w battery $40
Gotta say the price to performance on these is amazing so far. Got 6yrs of warranty for another $7
USB C charging 4ah batteries are $40
$240, crazy
Wow... Grinder w battery $60
Blower w battery $40
Gotta say the price to performance on these is amazing so far. Got 6yrs of warranty for another $7
USB C charging 4ah batteries are $40
$240, crazy
Steel_Rain
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Hyper Tough “multi-head” drill V2 (installation driver):
Very small profile, compared to the mini blower:
Compared to the Bosch Flexiclick:
Attachments feel decent quality and remind me of the M12 attachments:
Type C charging, comes with a battery, the four heads and a charging cable. Build quality is a step up from prior HT tools I’ve seen in the past.
Two criticisms: no included case or way to store the heads. Secondly, they use only magnetic retention for the offset / 90d heads and the magnet could be better. The bits won’t fall out but it’s not a collet.
This is a steal for $45 bucks with a 3-year warranty. A true poor man’s M12/Flexiclick/Dewalt installation driver, but worth the money in my opinion.
Very small profile, compared to the mini blower:
Compared to the Bosch Flexiclick:
Attachments feel decent quality and remind me of the M12 attachments:
Type C charging, comes with a battery, the four heads and a charging cable. Build quality is a step up from prior HT tools I’ve seen in the past.
Two criticisms: no included case or way to store the heads. Secondly, they use only magnetic retention for the offset / 90d heads and the magnet could be better. The bits won’t fall out but it’s not a collet.
This is a steal for $45 bucks with a 3-year warranty. A true poor man’s M12/Flexiclick/Dewalt installation driver, but worth the money in my opinion.
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Random, but I thought this was worthwhile to someone else.
If you happen to own the 12v Dewalt installation driver, the plastic organizer that's included fits the HT blower and installation driver:
DeWalt:
HT:
I know this might help 1 person out of a billion, but wanted to share for that guy.
If you happen to own the 12v Dewalt installation driver, the plastic organizer that's included fits the HT blower and installation driver:
DeWalt:
HT:
I know this might help 1 person out of a billion, but wanted to share for that guy.
I just picked this up too and don't really know why. I don't have and installation driver but have never needed one. Maybe it's one of those tools you never knew what you're missing until you have one.Hyper Tough “multi-head” drill V2 (installation driver):
Very small profile, compared to the mini blower:
Compared to the Bosch Flexiclick:
Attachments feel decent quality and remind me of the M12 attachments:
Type C charging, comes with a battery, the four heads and a charging cable. Build quality is a step up from prior HT tools I’ve seen in the past.
Two criticisms: no included case or way to store the heads. Secondly, they use only magnetic retention for the offset / 90d heads and the magnet could be better. The bits won’t fall out but it’s not a collet.
This is a steal for $45 bucks with a 3-year warranty. A true poor man’s M12/Flexiclick/Dewalt installation driver, but worth the money in my opinion.
I already have 2 flavors of cordless right angle drill, a bosch cordless 1/4" hex driver and also the drill as well as 3 M12 drills.
Haven't used the HyperTech yet but it is super impressive for the price in messing with it. Its certainly more powerful than the brushed Bosch 12v driver and drill but it is heavier. I would find it hard to believe it's more powerful than the M12 fuel stuff.
The only negative things I can say about it is it seems to take forever for the batteries to charge via USB. I would also like the tool with no attachments to have magnetic retention in it so I could use just a bit in the end to make it even shorter.
Wasn't going to get it but Walmart had free next day delivery from the store so I impulse clicked the box.
When I'm back to working in the field I will make it a point to use this drill only to see how it pans out.
Ok, did a little impromptu test of 12v drill drivers since I was organizing and had my work truck also in the driveway.
Here's how they rate power wise.
The hyper tough and the Milwaukee sub compact are real close in power. I was able to stop them both once or twice drilling through a 2x4 but the hyper tough has an annoying protection feature where it will turn off and you can't restart it until you pull the battery out and reinstall it.
I haven't used the Milwaukee sub compact at work yet as it came as a kit and I wanted the impact but the sale price with batteries wasn't much more than a bare impact.
I'm not sure what generation the M12 fuel is as I've had like 4 of them as they have failed and been replaced. Think this one is about 2 years old at most.
The Bosch are older but seldom used anymore and are brushed. I assume they make a brushless version at this point.
I'll try the hyper tough at work when I get back. I don't see it becoming a new favorite in the field as I'm an electrician and drill up to 1" knockout sizes holes frequently with the fuel. I don't see it making the grade with the safety cutout it has and the what seems like excessive recharge time via usb.
If you had 3 batteries and always kept one on charge in the truck it may eleviate the charging time issue as maybe the dedicated charger does too.
It's still a hell of a tool for the price.
I was able to stall every drill but the fuel and only the hyper tough had the safety cut out feature. I have previously stalled the M12 fuel with a hole saw and it doesn't have the cut out either.
Here's how they rate power wise.
The hyper tough and the Milwaukee sub compact are real close in power. I was able to stop them both once or twice drilling through a 2x4 but the hyper tough has an annoying protection feature where it will turn off and you can't restart it until you pull the battery out and reinstall it.
I haven't used the Milwaukee sub compact at work yet as it came as a kit and I wanted the impact but the sale price with batteries wasn't much more than a bare impact.
I'm not sure what generation the M12 fuel is as I've had like 4 of them as they have failed and been replaced. Think this one is about 2 years old at most.
The Bosch are older but seldom used anymore and are brushed. I assume they make a brushless version at this point.
I'll try the hyper tough at work when I get back. I don't see it becoming a new favorite in the field as I'm an electrician and drill up to 1" knockout sizes holes frequently with the fuel. I don't see it making the grade with the safety cutout it has and the what seems like excessive recharge time via usb.
If you had 3 batteries and always kept one on charge in the truck it may eleviate the charging time issue as maybe the dedicated charger does too.
It's still a hell of a tool for the price.
I was able to stall every drill but the fuel and only the hyper tough had the safety cut out feature. I have previously stalled the M12 fuel with a hole saw and it doesn't have the cut out either.
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lbhsbz
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Ironically, I just bought that same trio lol.I just bought both the Hypertough Blower and Right Angle Grinder
Wow... Grinder w battery $60
Blower w battery $40
Gotta say the price to performance on these is amazing so far. Got 6yrs of warranty for another $7
USB C charging 4ah batteries are $40
$240, crazy
That blower is surprisingly skookum! It's already earned back what I paid for it in laughs from screwing with the dog