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chpns1

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Years ago, probably 1980s, California added KM to the mileage signs along the freeways. Used to see them on I5. Eventually they were removed. Haven't seen one in years. Do they still exist? Another waste of taxpayer money.

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That sign still exists in Thousand Oaks. The KM portion may have been added after I moved away from the area in 2000.
 
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^ Regarding dogbones.

I spotted (but did not buy) this (probably foreign) example at the flea this morning. Branded "Herkules." Posting for posterity and future searchers.
 

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I feel this is rather gimmick-y, and cannot find a better place to post it in the index.
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GB patent 497450 was granted to Harry Millward of Birmingham on December 20, 1938, for a mechanic's square that permitted multiple configurations. The patent explains how the tool may be used as a square, a bevel gauge, a depth or height gauge, a scriber (two ways!), and a caliper.
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(It’s a shirt. It's a sock. It's a glove. It's a hat. But it has other uses. Yes, far beyond that.)

This is a 4" square, and there are both 4" and 6" versions floating around the internet. Some (like this one) are only marked "MADE IN ENGLAND / PAT. No 497450". Some are marked "H.M.M. Ltd / MADE IN ENGLAND / PAT. No 497450" and some are marked "A MILMET PRODUCT / MADE IN ENGLAND" with no patent number.

Additionally, some squares which are not this thing--which are just sensible squares--are marked with H.M.M. Ltd and the patent number.

I can't find anything about H.M.M. Ltd (although I freely confess I did not do a deep dive into UK company registration), or about Milmet (there is a Millenium Metals that has a https://www.milmet.co.za/ URL, but they were established in 1999). I'd guess Harry Millward spent some time having his tool distributed by himself as H.M.M. (Harold Millward Manufacturing/Metalworking) Ltd., and it later as a MILMET (Millward Metalworking?) product.

The lack of patent numbers on the Milmet tools suggest that they're made later (1953 if the patent had actually expired?), but the above-mentioned presence of the patent number on a plain square suggests that quality control may have been a bit slapdash, so I wouldn't bet on that.

One of the threads I found discussing this called them "hmm squares", and searching for hmm squares and/or hmm ltd squares seemed to give me slightly better results that searching for milmet squares, but either seems to work.
 

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GB patent 497450 was granted to Harry Millward of Birmingham on December 20, 1938, for a mechanic's square that permitted multiple configurations. The patent explains how the tool may be used as a square, a bevel gauge, a depth or height gauge, a scriber (two ways!), and a caliper.
If you don’t look at it as a square, I put rather a bevel, it seems less gimmicky.

Here is a Starrett one that’s even crazier.

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Pages 99-101 here show more

 

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@RTM -
Not sure if you pursued that patent above, but:
I went through everything I could find online.
No mention of Harry Millward at gracesguide.co.uk
Trying to search for "Hmm" is pointless.
My understanding was that GB patents are issued to the company, not the individual, correct?
Did that still hold true in 1938?

Mentioned on a British site (rust collecting), but no clue about location.

Any other mention of this device is absent any information other than the patent number stamped on the unit.
 
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@RTM -
Not sure if you pursued that patent above, but:
I went through everything I could find online.
Nope, I had not. But in a quick search, here is what I can tell you. Looking it up in Espacenet, the landing page for this link shows His Name as the patentee, not a company.


From this link, you can click on the patent, then in the right window, click Original Document, and read the full text, not just the Google Patents summary.

This paragraph probably covers why it is used on the non-pivoting squares, he also included the laminated construction

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Any question about how the patent was used, why you can't find it elsewhere, etc., are beyond my scope of utility today.

I tired to put the patent together into a single PDF, but don't have the tools on my computer. Maybe later. But searching this, brings up a few others, including the Rust success site. (ETA, That was an ALF find, enjoyed the read, haven’t seen much from her in the last decade, love that stuff. Trying to find it on the wayback machine, see if the pics are there. ☹️)

british patent 497450

Going to google books just gives lots of snippet views.
 
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Falling asleep in the floor, so this could be spotty. Henry Millward & Sons were located in Redditch England, in the 1790s to 1850s, and H Milward was there 1892-1937, and that’s good enough for Google AI to believe they were our HMM, and was located there.


There’s half an hour lost.

Our Harry Millward was a Birmingham resident, a 30 min trip by public transit.

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Giving up on this one for now.
 
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Henry Millward & Sons were located in Redditch England, in the 1790s to 1850s, and H Milward was there 1892-1937,
You walked into the same briar patch, just from a different direction.
Google apparently cannot make the distinction between "Harry" and "Henry"

Puzzlingly, the patent document gives no indication as to location of patentee. :headscrat

I am pursuing this one no farther. I have it listed:

H.M.M. / H.M.M. Ltd., / "Improvements in or relating to mechanic's and like squares" / patent GB 407450 Dec 20 1938 Harry Millward / https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=GB&NR=497450&KC=&FT=E&locale=en_EP /

Millward / Harry Millward see H.M.M. Ltd., England /

....which is actually kind of bass-ackwards from the way the patent document assigns it.
Until something else comes up to clear the waters....
 

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I have one of the H.M.M. Ltd marked versions There are currently a few on eBay UK and so they are not rare. I can't shed any light on the manufacturer.

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Puzzlingly, the patent document gives no indication as to location of patentee
Birmingham, down to the street he lived on

Our Harry Millward was a Birmingham resident, a 30 min trip by public transit.

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ahh... okay.
I'll fix it and reverse the listings and put it under his name, which is where the patent was assigned.

(Both my mother and I caught some sort of bug on the ship and we've both been sick as hell over a week. One of the effects is that it's causing me to not think straight.)
 
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