unloading/moving a 60 gal compressor

[toddmorr]

well sure enough, Old Dominion tried to deliver it with a full size semi truck/trailer after I told them it had to be a box truck to get into the neighborhood. But I had rented a motorcycle trailer from Uhaul so we just met at a large lot a mile from house for the handoff. The driver had an electric pallet jack in his trailer that made short work of pushing it up the short ramp of the Uhaul trailer. So I towed it the short distance back home, and up the inclined driveway. FSCurtis said the compressor was 475 lbs shipped but not so, more like 382 lbs.

anyway, you can see from the pics that the pallet easily fit into the back of Uhaul's smallest trailer. No issues at all sliding the pallet back down the trailer ramp. Yeah it's top heavy but 2 people could surely keep control of it, one could do it even, assuming some strength and effort.



next step gotta get a 30 amp power cord and receptacle installed.

 

[PugetDude]

well sure enough, Old Dominion tried to deliver it with a full size semi truck/trailer after I told them it had to be a box truck to get into the neighborhood. But I had rented a motorcycle trailer from Uhaul so we just met at a large lot a mile from house for the handoff. The driver had an electric pallet jack in his trailer that made short work of pushing it up the short ramp of the Uhaul trailer. So I towed it the short distance back home, and up the inclined driveway. FSCurtis said the compressor was 475 lbs shipped but not so, more like 382 lbs.

anyway, you can see from the pics that the pallet easily fit into the back of Uhaul's smallest trailer. No issues at all sliding the pallet back down the trailer ramp. Yeah it's top heavy but 2 people could surely keep control of it, one could do it even, assuming some strength and effort.



next step gotta get a 30 amp power cord and receptacle installed.

I was so looking forward to seeing the video of you and @LXCam frantically trying to keep it from rolling through the garage doors...

 

[ozyborn]

When I was younger I bought my 60 gallon vertical Puma air compressor. The shop loaded it into the bed of my truck. I lashed it down very securely. Once I got to my garage. I put a chain hoist above the garage door header beam. Used that to lift it just off the truck, move truck, lower to the ground. That hoist has come in very handy over the years that way. it is an 8x14 beam 9 foot long. Can handle a lot more weight than I subject it through. Now that I am older though. Hire the crew, get it delivered where I want.

 

[yatg]

well sure enough, Old Dominion tried to deliver it with a full size semi truck/trailer after I told them it had to be a box truck to get into the neighborhood. But I had rented a motorcycle trailer from Uhaul so we just met at a large lot a mile from house for the handoff. The driver had an electric pallet jack in his trailer that made short work of pushing it up the short ramp of the Uhaul trailer. So I towed it the short distance back home, and up the inclined driveway. FSCurtis said the compressor was 475 lbs shipped but not so, more like 382 lbs.

anyway, you can see from the pics that the pallet easily fit into the back of Uhaul's smallest trailer. No issues at all sliding the pallet back down the trailer ramp. Yeah it's top heavy but 2 people could surely keep control of it, one could do it even, assuming some strength and effort.



next step gotta get a 30 amp power cord and receptacle installed.

Better rethink this if its a true 5HP motor. Plenty of threads on here about wiring compressors.

 

[PoorUB]

next step gotta get a 30 amp power cord and receptacle installed.

Pretty certain you will be hard wiring that compressor.

 

[toddmorr]

not sure what the issue is with using a receptacle and power cord. the CT5 motor is 23 FLA, breaker is 230v/30 amp, about 30 ft of 10/2 to the outlet on the wall from the breaker box.

 

[PoorUB]

not sure what the issue is with using a receptacle and power cord. the CT5 motor is 23 FLA, breaker is 230v/30 amp, about 30 ft of 10/2 to the outlet on the wall from the breaker box.

Good luck finding a motor rated plug and outlet. You can easily find a 50 amp plug and outlet, but it will not be rated high enough for you 5 HP motor.
This has been beat to death here on other threads. You can find a plug and outlet rated for you motor, but it they are several hundred dollars each.

For example,
https://www.hubbell.com/wiringdevic...g-50a-250v-6-50r-black-single-pack/p/19416489

Notice it is rated for only 3 HP.

 

[Citation]

Good luck finding a motor rated plug and outlet. You can easily find a 50 amp plug and outlet, but it will not be rated high enough for you 5 HP motor.
This has been beat to death here on other threads. You can find a plug and outlet rated for you motor, but it they are several hundred dollars each.

For example,
https://www.hubbell.com/wiringdevic...g-50a-250v-6-50r-black-single-pack/p/19416489

Notice it is rated for only 3 HP.

I'm certain I'm not the best person to explain why but it would probably be helpful to explain why plugs for electric motors need to be so highly rated. For the non-electrical lay person it seems like a 30A dryer outlet should be fine for a 23A max load.

My understanding is the concern is not that the plug can't handle the load while running, rather you create an arc flash hazard if unplugged while the motor is running. The sudden break in the circuit can create a very high back emf voltage. That can result in both very high momentary current and a arc flash at the plug. The motor rated plugs are designed to safely disconnect under load. The same thing applies to switches that may disconnect a motor. This is not an issue when disconnecting resistive loads like an oven or dryer that's running.

 

[PoorUB]

I'm certain I'm not the best person to explain why but it would probably be helpful to explain why plugs for electric motors need to be so highly rated. For the non-electrical lay person it seems like a 30A dryer outlet should be fine for a 23A max load.

I am not certain either, but I motor can easily draw 4 or 5 times its rated amp draw on start up, so that 23 amp motor can potentially draw over 100 amps.

 

[PoorUB]

not sure what the issue is with using a receptacle and power cord. the CT5 motor is 23 FLA, breaker is 230v/30 amp, about 30 ft of 10/2 to the outlet on the wall from the breaker box.

Pretty certain your 10 gauge wire is too small too. I might be wrong, but I believe it needs to be rated for 125% of the motor run amps, so almost 29 amps which bumps you into 8 gauge wire.

 

[mike93lx]

not sure what the issue is with using a receptacle and power cord. the CT5 motor is 23 FLA, breaker is 230v/30 amp, about 30 ft of 10/2 to the outlet on the wall from the breaker box.

The fla rating doesn't matter. You size based on horsepower

Besides, an a/c disconnect is cheaper than a plug and receptacle

 

[ATC]

Glad you got it in position with no issues. I used a 2-wheel dolly when I bought mine...but I was much younger then. I used a utility trailer with ATV ramps (didn't have a built-in gate/ramp).

And mine has been running on a 50A plug/receptacle shared with my welder for well over 10 years now.

 

[toddmorr]

i get the arc flash risk. My thinking was to use a locking plug/receptacle to help with that risk. here's the plate from the motor.
I'll take a look at a disconnect on the wall, since my breaker box is less than 25 ft from the air compressor I wasn't going to go that route.

 

[The Cobbler]

plugs & outlets get discussed a lot & regularly on here for motors , it's due to the arc flash possibility & the high start up amp draw that they aren't rated for more than about 3HP if I recall correctly . a 5HP rated set up is in the hundreds of dollars range .
do people use non rated plugs & have success? for sure . is it code compliant? no.

 

[Cruzan80]

Pretty certain your 10 gauge wire is too small too. I might be wrong, but I believe it needs to be rated for 125% of the motor run amps, so almost 29 amps which bumps you into 8 gauge wire.

It depends on if he is using NM/b or THHN (yes, I get that 10/2 implies Romex). IIRC, THHN is fine for #10, Romex needs #8 (officially to meet code).

 

[mm08822]

Per NEC code, a 5hp, 230v motor load is supposed to be sized at 28 amps full load current. 125% of that number puts you at 35 amps. 8-2 NM-B is needed, not 10-2 nm-b.
NEMA plugs and recepts for 230 volt single phase are not rated for 5 HP. Hard wiring to an ac disconnect is a very inexpensive junction box (for your purpose) that has terminals in it and make disconnecting/re-connecting a whip to the compressor very convenient.

 

[Slednut]

The freight company dropped mine off at work. I used the fork lift to put it in the back of my truck . Tied it down for the ride home, took it out with my engine hoist. I used the engine hoist to remove it from the pallet and get it close to where I wanted. I then walked it into the corner of the shop. Found its kind of shy so I built a box around it with two layers of soundboard on the inside.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

I moved my Campbell Hausfeld single phase compressor by hauling it on its side in my truck. When I got home I pulled it out and had it on an angle with the bottom on the ground and leaning against the tailgate. Then I put a strap around the upper part and pulled it up to vertical. It's always been on a pallet so I just walked it into the garage.

 

[PoorUB]

I bought a used 80 gallon, 5HP Curtis years ago for $100. I grabbed my trailer, a bunch of tools and a friend and went to pick it up. No way to load it so we took off the motor and pump and set them in the back of the pickup, and laid the tank down in the trailer. When we got back to my place we reassembled it. With two able bodied guys it isn't that big of a deal, although the pump was heavy, something like 165 pounds. Easy to get off the tank, a bit more work to get back on. We may have used my overhead hoist to set it in place.

I rebuilt the pump a couple months ago. I tore down the pump on the tank, then removed the crankcase with the shaft in place in one piece. The head, cylinders, flywheel and pistons & rods were removed already. On assembly, I assembled the crank case, crank shaft, pistons and cylinders, then set it on the tank, then added the head and flywheel. The head and flywheel together were about half the weight of the pump so the crankcase assembly was still a handful.

 

[Sumboodie]

I have enough leaks and spills that's there's oil stains in the dirt, some are a few years old

I had to move one about the same size as this by myself. It was bolted to a pallet and I had a pallet jack and a box truck with a lift gate. It was scary as ****. Not to mention, you definitely don’t want the weight of a truck messing up that nice driveway of yours. The oil stains will also be very hard to get out.

 

[Gmonkee]

I moved two 60 gallon uprights multiple times around two shops. The hardest part was really just setting them up for service including hardwired leads off two different legs of 3 phase service. (2 phase motors)

We just did it the Mexican way and muscled them around with whatever transport we had handy.

It was hard on the paint after a while.

 

[Cruzan80]

hardwired leads off two different legs of 3 phase service. (2 phase motors)

240V 1ph is not the same as 2ph (only in select areas, a long time ago).