The Everything 3D Printer Thread

[jeepxj]

Same questions here thinking of jumping in, but don't want to limit myself or overbuy. Mostly small parts, and one-offs.

p2s with AMS

IMO best bang for buck for general purpose

 

[jayz66ragtop]

I've read mixed reviews about the actual run-times when going dual nozzle with a dedicated support filament vs a single nozzle setup and many report that they see no real world difference.

Something about the other nozzle not being able to run as fast, it's limitation when it comes to filaments, and whatever else I may be forgetting or haven't thought about.

I run a P1S and while there is zero reason to upgrade at all, I thought I'd look into getting a P2S or X2C.

I guess it depends on how much support material the print needs vs the non-support filament. If the print uses a considerable amount of support then the time can be greatly reduced. The bigger win is the amount of wasted filament due to purging. I have a tri-color print that took 19 hours on my X1C and wasted close to 1/4 of a spool of filament between the three colors due to purging. With some strategic spool placement, that same print on my H2C takes ~15 hours BUT the filament wasted fit in my hand with plenty of space left.

 

[KwikFab]

I guess it depends on how much support material the print needs vs the non-support filament. If the print uses a considerable amount of support then the time can be greatly reduced. The bigger win is the amount of wasted filament due to purging. I have a tri-color print that took 19 hours on my X1C and wasted close to 1/4 of a spool of filament between the three colors due to purging. With some strategic spool placement, that same print on my H2C takes ~15 hours BUT the filament wasted fit in my hand with plenty of space left.

True, regarding the support material vs non-support.

Only the H2C uses what I'd say, two normal nozzles that both can run at the same speed vs the X2C that uses their regular nozzle for the main, and a slower one for the secondary.

I guess I could wait it out to see when people start posting about their X2C.

 

[moab11]

I don't see any info about the X2C, are you confusing and mixing up the names between the X1C and the X2D?

 

[KwikFab]

I don't see any info about the X2C, are you confusing and mixing up the names between the X1C and the X2D?

X2D

I mistyped it and I kept overlooking the need to correct it now that my phone thinks it's what I'm trying to say

 

[Old tool guy]

How long can you pause a print? Bambu a1 and petg. Long print job, at some point it thought there was a problem feeding the filament so it paused. Probably 2 hrs later I saw it, gave it a swift kick in the **** and it continued as if nothing had happened. Looking at the finished product I can’t see where it paused, looks perfect.

 

[draco_1967]

Isn't the most efficient way to use the second material just for the support interface, not the whole support structure? That way it isn't switching material every layer, just the interface layers. Unless there is a specific need for the dissolvable filaments for internal structures...
I haven't played with that at all, just going off of the little I've read about it.

 

[Old tool guy]

Isn't the most efficient way to use the second material just for the support interface, not the whole support structure? That way it isn't switching material every layer, just the interface layers. Unless there is a specific need for the dissolvable filaments for internal structures...
I haven't played with that at all, just going off of the little I've read about it.

Correct, that’s how i do it, works well. Sometimes. Sometimes i use the same filament. The real time **** is purging every time it chamges filament.

 

[signcrafter]

p2s with AMS

IMO best bang for buck for general purpose

From a guy that has never printed anything and figuring out which printer would be best. The X2D with ams is only 150 dollars more then the p2s with ams I believe. I have no clue if the second head for supports is needed for what I want to print but my thought was I don't want to spend 750 for the p2s and then find out down the road the x2d would have been better. That extra 150 seems like a good idea to spend now and have the capability in case I need it. Is there any downside to getting the x2d over the p2s if you don't ever use the second head besides the price? I just hate when I spend money on something and later wish I had spent a few more bucks to have more features.

 

[Old tool guy]

Need a little help please. Just got a P1S, trying to use it for the first time. Did a test print, it’s ok. But trying to do a chair part i’m getting confusing data. As you can see in the picture, i have selected the p1s and the 0.4 nozzle. That agrees with what the printer shows on its on-board control screen.
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But when you look down below, it shows a 0.2 nozzle on a x1c. And the x1c is the only printer available to choose. What’s going on?
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[Cruzan80]

.4 is the diameter of the nozzle and .2 is the layer height. Two different things.

 

[KwikFab]

Need a little help please. Just got a P1S, trying to use it for the first time. Did a test print, it’s ok. But trying to do a chair part i’m getting confusing data. As you can see in the picture, i have selected the p1s and the 0.4 nozzle. That agrees with what the printer shows on its on-board control screen.
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But when you look down below, it shows a 0.2 nozzle on a x1c. And the x1c is the only printer available to choose. What’s going on?
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Just some standard preset - the X1C and P1S are pretty much the same.

I never mess with those presets, and have never had any issue. But again that's why you'll see "X1C", because you've got a P1S.

 

[Old tool guy]

.4 is the diameter of the nozzle and .2 is the layer height. Two different things.

i knew that. Really … i did.

 

[Cruzan80]

All good. Figured a quick answer was better than an in-depth one to start