To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Eliminate Garage door sensors?

nova65ss

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 20, 2005
Messages
1,556
Location
Raleigh, NC
It really has more to do than just kids but it is the main reason. The safety reverse is a very unreliable device mainly because most people just turn it all the way up. Got a problem with the door stopping, turn up the down force. Never mind that there is a problem with the door. Then when there is something in the way it will not stop and just crush whatever is underneath or damage the top of the door.



Seems like everyone is spending more time trying to disable them than they would spend if they just fixed them properly. If you do try and move or disable them just make sure they can eventually go back if you decide to sell. It will not pass at closing time without them.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

nissan_crawler

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 12, 2008
Messages
9,638
Location
Wichita, KS
It really has more to do than just kids but it is the main reason. The safety reverse is a very unreliable device mainly because most people just turn it all the way up. Got a problem with the door stopping, turn up the down force. Never mind that there is a problem with the door. Then when there is something in the way it will not stop and just crush whatever is underneath or damage the top of the door.



Seems like everyone is spending more time trying to disable them than they would spend if they just fixed them properly. If you do try and move or disable them just make sure they can eventually go back if you decide to sell. It will not pass at closing time without them.

So...people are idiots. That hardly seems the doors fault.

Again, back to what I mentioned at the beginning of this. We had to replace 4-5 sensors a year. Snow would blow in when we opened our door, and it shorted the sensors. They were in the position the manufacturer required. So tell me, what is the "proper fix" for this? In one year we would spend more money on the stupid sensors than we did on the opener.

Now that I live in Kansas, it's not an issue and I have them where they should be. However, they are nothing short of a royal pain in the *** for me, and 98% of the time I wish I had just mounted them by the opener.

Leafs blow, can't get the damned door closed. Want to close it and run out? Can't do it without hitting the sensor by the time you get to the door. Set something along the wall when you're late to work and bump the sensor? Have to aim the S.O.B. so you can shut your door, and in turn, be late for work. I couldn't get my door shut for the life of me one day...until I moved the vehicle parked alongside the garage. Apparently it was reflecting and bugging the sensor. Move vehicle, close door, move vehicle back, repeat every time you have to close the door.

Sorry, I think the sensor's are worthless. I've shut my door on several things, it's never damaged them or the door. The door stops, then goes right back up. Move item, shut door, big deal.
 

6768rogues

Banned
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Messages
4,524
Location
Western NY
My sensors are a couple of inches apart on the ceiling next to the opener. I have seen many doors reverse from leaves blowing by in the fall, etc. I have commercial doors. One has a residential opener with the sensors and the other is a commercial opener without the sensors.
 

jage

Member
Joined
Dec 26, 2009
Messages
7
backdead.gif


So I'm looking at a way to eliminate the sensors, and the "tube them together" trick won't work, because I think it's the sensors that are the problem. I'm getting a 2-1-pause flash, and according to the manual that 3-pause indicates interference.

The red sensor is mounted as indicated with respect to the sun, and yet I cannot get the garage door opener to go anywhere but up. All indications are that the sensors are installed correctly (when I cover one or aim away the code changes to 2-pause, which indicates the beam is interrupted).

I started this project trying to add electronic eye sensors to a 60s opener, which while adjusting the tension reverse safety feature (previous owners had it set to kill) after running it back to back a number of times, the casing burst into smoke and nearly caught fire. After watching it with a fire extinguisher in hand (first thing I put into the garage while moving!) and determining it was out, it never moved again.

Since that time I'm on my second salvaged opener and more than 20 hours trying to get something that works. I WANTED safety beams, however this model cannot operate without them and I would like to bypass them to ensure that I haven't overlooked some other malfunction in the door. Everything else seems like it's set up correctly, but after spending 5 hours today messing with the electronic eyes, I just want to know if that is where the problem is, or not.

If I could "bypass", meaning trick the opener into thinking they were working perfectly, I could verify that they are indeed the problem and it's not something else stupid I've missed (or a malfunction like GD opener #2!)

Without this option I'm left with calling a garage door tech, which considering I've gone through nearly 20 hours of DIY work to avoid throwing money into what is arguably the crappiest garage on Earth, would really ****.

It's a shame that I can't just jumper the terminals to set up the rest of the door because corporate America is so scared that they'll get sued for making it easy to bypass a safety feature. I've personally gone from someone who set out to add the safety of eyes to wanting to go back to an older model that didn't require them, just so I don't have to spend another 5 hours or $100 on this project.
 
Last edited:

tcianci

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 7, 2009
Messages
4,242
Location
Walpole, Ma
I work in many houses that have those sensors on the doors and they are way more trouble than they are worth. My door operator never had them, never will. They are just another soution looking for a problem, like arc fault breakers and those stupid "safety" outlets that we're required to install now... even an adult can't get a plug into them. Any GDO has a reversing switch with an adjustable force limit. If your opener is operating correctly, you're all set. It's highly unlikely that one neglected, poorly thought out "safety" device will save your bacon if the rest of your system is equally maintained.
And yes, I have kids, cats and rakes.
 

j-easy

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 17, 2009
Messages
62
I have the sensors, personally I haven't had any problems with them so I don't see any need to remove them.

but other people not having them doesn't really bother me either, to each his own.
 

tfi racing

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
2,907
Location
Cedar,BC
No answers after all this time?I'm also looking for a bypass for "testing" only purposes....:rolleyes:Funny thing is I was going to post a request on this board,but didn't want to drag all the "safety" trolls into the daylight.
 

Lou's Garage

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 12, 2008
Messages
582
Location
Anderson, SC
No answers after all this time?I'm also looking for a bypass for "testing" only purposes....:rolleyes:Funny thing is I was going to post a request on this board,but didn't want to drag all the "safety" trolls into the daylight.

I'm not aware of any simple by-pass for the safety sensors and I've tried. Jumpering them doesn't work, a resistor doesn't work, etc..... It would have saved me several hours diagnostic time when I had a bad wire in the wall.

IIRC from one piece I read, the sensors generate a square-wave type of signal to the garage door opener to indicate that everything is okay. I think that signal turns into a flat line (essentially a short) when there is a blockage. I've never verified this with an oscilloscope so I can't give any additional information but this doesn't sound easy to by-pass by any method.

Lou
 

buening

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 17, 2007
Messages
1,338
Location
Decatur, IL
My understanding is that most of these sensors send a series of pulses to the main opener, so they are not easy to bypass. I believe early versions of the sensors can be jumpered but the manufacturers quickly caught on to that. An oscilliscope would verify these pulses, but is not something everyone has. It would make for an interesting experiment, if you have that kind of time on your hands ;)
 

tyrell2004

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 27, 2009
Messages
116
I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade. But I had this happen to me when I had tried to over ride the electric eye safety feature on my garage door.
I had the wires unstapled from the walls, I was trying to get outside of the garage, to check reflection problems, by hitting the button, running through the closing door, (never got around to installing that optional keypad), hoping over the beam and ducking under the door, when I tripped over my napping three legged cat. (I won’t go into how that happened, but let’s just say it had something to do with some starter fluid, a lighter, and hard to seat bead on my ride-on tractor tire…. )
Any way as I stumbled over the cat, I reached for the side of the garage door opening to steady myself and instead of grabbing the jam, I caught a hold of the electric eye sensor wires and ripped the eye off the wall, as I was flipping backward (think slow motion… I watched as the sensor flew across the garage door opening and landed, one in a million shot, inside the toilet paper roll, did one slow quarter turn and lined up with the sending unit, so the door continued to close.
I whipped my head around to see what I might be landing on and saw my kids Red Radio Flyer wagon right behind me. Needless to say, my big fat **** did not land in the wagon but the back of my head hit the edge of the wagon and sent it rolling………..towards the wall where my garden tools are stored, (never got a chance to get the garden stuff out of the garage and into the shed I was gonna build, that was on the to do list.).
The Radio flyer rolled to the wall and knocked my garden rake off the wall, it hit the floor and bounced under the closing garage door, just so happened the rake landed with the tines up, right under the door and when the door hit the ground the rake flipped up, three stooges style. (I guess I had adjusted the reverse sensor a little too much to get past that binding roller problem I had last month.) Just at that moment, the cat was trying, and I do mean trying, to jump over the handle of the rake and the handle launched the cat skyward.
I quickly rose to my feet and made a lunge for the cat, (he don’t land to well on a counta that missing leg.). But I missed, eyesight was a little blurry from that bump on my head, and the bang of the rake against the garage door was a little distracting, as was the sound of the rake handle flying passed my head towards the far wall.
Not sure where the cat ended up, might of landed in the wagon, (cuz that’s where I found the other leg, more on that later), but the rake handle smacked right into the PVC air lines I had just installed on the compressor, ( I was able to use a salvaged tank by plugging the rust hole in it the with a drywall screw,. Saved some $$ there.)
The shrapnel from the PVC pipe, the vet said, would not cause an infection, but the cat is having trouble learning to walk on two legs.
My head is still aches from the bump, when it rains, my kid won’t play with the wagon cuz of the blood, and the garage, well there more to that story, but let’s just say, chain your welding tanks, and compressed air does help the wifey’s Christmas wrapping paper she lets me store in my garage, burn, ……….a lot.
The good news is the heat from the fire and the water in my air lines tempered the steel in the ramp of my Class Act Trailer, so now it is a lot stronger and should not bend when I load the propane powered ride-on tractor I made from an old steam roller, my BBQ Grill and some smoked kielbasa ………, if I can get it out of the lube pit, I had dug in the garage, but the fire dept said they may be able to help…………….I’ll post some pics.

BTW looking for garage plans, want to do most of the work myself……
 

Attachments

  • My Cat  Tripod - Duo.jpg
    My Cat Tripod - Duo.jpg
    30.9 KB · Views: 264
Last edited:

bacon

New member
Joined
Apr 27, 2010
Messages
1
I registered just to get a look at that cat, and boy I was not disappointed!
 

toyota2

Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2005
Messages
20
Location
West Virginia
He asked about bypassing them in the first place and I dont think he is going to change his mind about that no matter what is said. Is it a good idea to bypass them NO it is not is he going to bypass them YES he is.

I say go ahead and do it. Take the sensors off the rails of the door, leave two feet of wire on the sensors and cut the rest off, twist the wires together and screw them down on the terminals on the back of the opener and mount the sensors to the ceiling behind the opener facing each other. There done now wait until some kid gets hurt or you tear up something of yours and wish you had not done this.

Have fun.
 

sirsloop

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 23, 2009
Messages
1,220
Hmm... both my doors did dot have sensors when I bought the place. Sure makes it easy to get out when you want to close the door behind you. I do get a little concerned sometimes... certainly the potential for disaster.
 

KCarGuy

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 5, 2009
Messages
2,075
Location
50 miles outside Chicago, illinois
The Garage Door Openers that I use are "Old" units, before the sensors started coming with them. And I am glad they dont have them.

First off, these units work great, not a lick of issues in over 20 years.
Second, My kids are all grown and moved out. They just learned, like I did, Dont stand under the door as its closing.
If my dogs dumb enough to let the garage door come down on her, then see would most likely let me back right over her too...just kiddin'...I love my Boxer!
Third, everyone I know that has those sensors will wind up doing some type of adjustment or repair at least once a year, due to wear-tear, abuse, neglect...whatever.

I've heard the stories about cars getting damaged, people and pets getting hurt, and I am terribly sorry if someone has...But I dont know anybody in my 50 or so years on this earth who has gotten hurt.

Its Just another thing to go wrong with a garage door opener!
All I want is a Item to do its job, no more, no less...or I will do it myself.
just open the door when I ask, and then close it when I ask...Thats it.

If you have them, Great...I just think that there should be an "Over Ride" switch, so that the homeowner can make there own choice.

Meantime, I will do my best to get another 20 years out of the "Perfectly working" garage door openers that I have.

Just my $0.02
 

Rickster

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 26, 2005
Messages
6,218
Location
SE PA
The beam sensor only reverses the door when it's tripped. There is a door closing pressure adjustment on your opener motor. If you're crushing wagons you need to get ths ajusted to bounce back under a much lowere tension. The door openers always had the bounce-back feature then they added the light beam gizmo's.
 

Daniel Dudley

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
3,546
Chacun a son gout.

What ever. I got a big kick out of the cat story, but reviving old threads is kind of like watching old Lucy reruns. It's kind of like when my ex was having an affair on me, but I didn't find out until a year later, when I found out I needed to be ''tested''.

She couldn't understand why I would be upset about something that had happend over a year ago. Turns out I had an opinion about it too. Funny or what ?
 

johninlongmont

New member
Joined
Mar 29, 2011
Messages
2
man, I can not believe all the weenies on this thread!

you all better figure out a triple back up light sensor JUST IN CASE something goes wrong with that government mandated sensor

I am sick of all these government mandated safety and environmentally friendly taxes on our lives

I can't tell you how many hair dryer "government mandated safety devices" I have had to wire around when the ONLY PROBLEM with my product is the GOVERNMENT MANDATED SAFETY DEVICE WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY

maybe it's just you all install and maintain these stupid sensors and get paid to do it, I don't know

my sensors are making my garage door reverse back up and there is NOTHING IN THE WAY

aligning them seems impossible and like others here, I found just shorting them out doesn't work

I'll try the tp tube workaround, but I wish we could just get the government out of protecting me from any stupid thing they want to decide is a risk they won't let me decide for myself

:confused:
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

LIVELY

Well-known member
Joined
May 8, 2010
Messages
362
Location
Illinois
IF YOUR DOOR CAN CRUSH WAGONS AND RAKES--YOU BETTER HAVE THEM TORE OUT AND REPLACED:scared:

AJUST the pressure switches before someone gets hurt because your openers NOT WORKING properly and sues your bottom off !!!!:rocker:
COMMON SINCE HAS GONE :3gears:
 

bazzateer

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 8, 2009
Messages
6,075
Location
Watford, Great Britain
Yep you can flame me all you want, I have mine installed above the door..

I will say the same thing I tell everyone that asks.

I own my own home, I pay the taxes.. Only full grown adults live in my home and both of us are fully aware of what is acceptable in the garage. We treat the garage will much respect, it is not a play place for Children or pets. The garage door is the least of the dangerous things that can be found in a garage. We do not leave things in the path of the door, let alone in the path were a 4,000 pound vehicle will be driving.. So you will not find a little red wagon, garden tools or small babies left in the path of our garage door. It is treated like it is a street. Now you will say.. what is a dog or cat wanders in to your garage? Well the owner of the said animal should have control of the animal so that it doesn't get in to situations like this. If you can not control or don't have enough responsibility to keep this from happening this is not really my problem. Also when the garage door is closing is it not quiet, most animals would be frightened but the sound and scamper away.
Now almost the same with children, I do not have children nor do I ever plan on having children. If I did have I would have enough responsibility to keep them out of the garage and to put all safety precautions in place to keep them safe in and on my property. Now if for some reason a 1 year old would for some reason stumble in to my garage and decide to take a nap on my garage floor right under where the door closes the door will come down with enough force to push on the child/red wagon or other human or earthy debris it will sense the resistance and go back up. Again it would seem to me that it is not my problem that someone else's child that they are 100% responsible for is my problem when they invade my private property. If you don't know where you little children and pets and red wagons are that is not for me to watch out for.

When I was little Dad taught me that if you slam a door on your finger it will hurt, or do anything else that could be taught to teach common sense that is not common today. When I was a kid we never had to IDIOT proof everything like we do today.. That is why it is so hard to find some people with common sense now.. Everything is Idiot proof and nothing teaches people right from wrong and we wonder why we are stuck with a pile of idiots..

:Violent:

Sorry Rant off

:rocker::bowdown::beer:
 

mmb617

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 5, 2010
Messages
4,424
Location
PA
man, I can not believe all the weenies on this thread!

you all better figure out a triple back up light sensor JUST IN CASE something goes wrong with that government mandated sensor

I am sick of all these government mandated safety and environmentally friendly taxes on our lives

I can't tell you how many hair dryer "government mandated safety devices" I have had to wire around when the ONLY PROBLEM with my product is the GOVERNMENT MANDATED SAFETY DEVICE WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY

maybe it's just you all install and maintain these stupid sensors and get paid to do it, I don't know

my sensors are making my garage door reverse back up and there is NOTHING IN THE WAY

aligning them seems impossible and like others here, I found just shorting them out doesn't work

I'll try the tp tube workaround, but I wish we could just get the government out of protecting me from any stupid thing they want to decide is a risk they won't let me decide for myself

:confused:

I agree 100%. We didn't have any of this safety **** when I was growing up, and yet I'm still here. Certain safety features can be a good thing but the pendulum has swung way too far. Nothing can be made completely idiot proof, no use even trying.
 

jstroede

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 28, 2010
Messages
1,082
Location
Kansas City
Wow, I am dumber for reading this thread. Photo eyes are not a complex piece of equipment. Nailing through the wire and sunlight are really the two biggest issues with them, and I wouldn't really call them issues. I didn't realize that they were such a big deal for everyone. Funny thing is that they have just become mandatory for commercial openers too, so they aren't going anywhere. And for those people that are just in too big of a hurry to type in numbers in the keypad to close it, they can be configured for one touch close, or they have come up with these crazy things called remotes that will make your opener work too.

John
 

LIVELY

Well-known member
Joined
May 8, 2010
Messages
362
Location
Illinois
REALLY GUYS

HOW many of you have complete lockouts on ALL of your power items?

How many of you have complete lockouts on ALL your lifts?

How many of you have LOCKING gates in front of ALL your steps[going up and down]?

Do you have all your receptacle covers closed up to keep anybody from sticking an object into them from your not completely locked up tool box or covered peg board tool racks?

There is safety -then there is supposed to be common since:shocking:

like i said before--COMMON SINCE IS GONE FROM OUR SOCIETY:lol_hitti
 

Greatbear

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 17, 2008
Messages
1,702
Location
Columbia/Fulton, MD
I wonder just how many people who feel they just have to remove some sort of safety device would be the absolute first ones to scream lawsuit if something bad were to happen to them.

I can hear Johnny Cochran now: "If the door don't reverse, you gonna get a big purse!"
 

warspyder

New member
Joined
Mar 31, 2011
Messages
1
Wow! Laughed hard about the story of the cat...

I have 2 garage doors, one works fine and the other does not. I don't know if it was the snow or the rain but one sensor has gotten wet and the connections are all rusty and corroded. I don't hate the sensors but I don't like them.

I am stealing some taglines though, loved all of these!

Id rather hunt with **** Cheney then Ride with Ted Kennedy

If guns cause crime, all mine are defective. Ted Nugent

"A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject. " John Lott

"Taking my gun away because I might shoot someone is like cutting my tongue out because I might yell `Fire!' in a crowded theater." Peter Venetoklis
 

Stuart in MN

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 8, 2005
Messages
23,178
Location
Minneapolis
Garage door death ruled accidental
last update: March 17, 2011

Authorities have ruled that the death of a Barnesville man found trapped under a garage door was an accident.


Preliminary autopsy results find that 51-year-old Steve Peterson died of asphyxiation. Barnesville Police Chief Dean Ernst told the Forum newspaper that Peterson apparently was unable to breathe when the garage door came down on his chest. Peterson, a part-owner of Barnesville Bus Co., was found March 7 at the business. The police chief has said Peterson apparently was trying to duck under the garage door as it was closing when he somehow got caught under it.
 

slimpickins

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 27, 2011
Messages
2,404
Location
Canada
Garage door death ruled accidental
last update: March 17, 2011

Authorities have ruled that the death of a Barnesville man found trapped under a garage door was an accident.


Preliminary autopsy results find that 51-year-old Steve Peterson died of asphyxiation. Barnesville Police Chief Dean Ernst told the Forum newspaper that Peterson apparently was unable to breathe when the garage door came down on his chest. Peterson, a part-owner of Barnesville Bus Co., was found March 7 at the business. The police chief has said Peterson apparently was trying to duck under the garage door as it was closing when he somehow got caught under it.

Let's see, going under a machine capable of applying sufficient force to crush you.
Sounds like a Darwin Award winner to me. Didn't expect one that fast!!! http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/images/smilies/lol_hitting.gif
 

holdover

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 15, 2011
Messages
750
Location
VA
It is a free country, at least right now, do as you wish. but for me I have some young grandbabys to protect so sensors low and down pressure switch set real light.. heck as slow as I move now, I might get caught under it..
 

ddawg16

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 11, 2008
Messages
21,005
Location
S. California
man, I can not believe all the weenies on this thread!

you all better figure out a triple back up light sensor JUST IN CASE something goes wrong with that government mandated sensor

I am sick of all these government mandated safety and environmentally friendly taxes on our lives

I can't tell you how many hair dryer "government mandated safety devices" I have had to wire around when the ONLY PROBLEM with my product is the GOVERNMENT MANDATED SAFETY DEVICE WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY

maybe it's just you all install and maintain these stupid sensors and get paid to do it, I don't know

my sensors are making my garage door reverse back up and there is NOTHING IN THE WAY

aligning them seems impossible and like others here, I found just shorting them out doesn't work

I'll try the tp tube workaround, but I wish we could just get the government out of protecting me from any stupid thing they want to decide is a risk they won't let me decide for myself

:confused:

Wow....newbie was doing some serious reading to dig up thread almost a year old that started back in 2006.

To summerize.....

If your an adult, don't have kids and kids will most likely never be at your house....do what ever you want. Who needs safeties....

Then there is the "I don't want govt mandated safeties" crowd. Thats fine too....though I have found them to be one of the first to get a lawyer when something goes wrong.

For everyone else....it's pretty simple....adjust the downward force sensor...crank it all the way up...then cycle the door while adjusting it down....when it gets too sensitive...give it a nudge back.

Light sensors...adjust/fix. It just might save a scratch on your MC fender....don't ask me how I know.

I've had my Sears opener for 10 years now....No problems.....God, I wish it would die so I can get a Liftmaster.
 

johninlongmont

New member
Joined
Mar 29, 2011
Messages
2
Wow....newbie was doing some serious reading to dig up thread almost a year old that started back in 2006.

well actually, it just comes right up there at you on a google search...

Then there is the "I don't want govt mandated safeties" crowd. Thats fine too....though I have found them to be one of the first to get a lawyer when something goes wrong.

that's really more of a problem with our court systems than the people enticed by the $$$


I'm sorry if I insulted anyone, and if you have not yet been victimized by government mandated safety devices disabling your other than that fine working product, all I can say is: YOUR TIME WILL COME

;)
 

digdug18

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 14, 2010
Messages
311
Location
Danville, PA
I'm going to vote to fix your problem, and certainly not bypass the system. If you need to, run a new wire, but don't make your garage door a potential hazzard to someone not "in the know". Jeez. What's next -- disconnecting your air bag in the car?

Yeah, but either way all garage doors, except the industrial models, have a pressure sensor built in, so if it comes down on something or someone, it'll automatically go back up. I just replaced a 30 year old sears that even came with the feature.

I disconnected the break beam sensor, just easier that way.
 

ddawg16

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 11, 2008
Messages
21,005
Location
S. California
I've have 2 Sears chain drive door openers. I've had an intermitent problem with the light sensors on the one door almost since they were installed. I have a short that comes and goes in the wiring on the one side. Of course this causes the door to either stay up or down. Is there anyway to by-pass those goofy light sensors or do I have to rewire this whole thing. The thought of digging through attic insulation and tearing into finished and painted drywall doesn't thrill me.

Thanks..

I think it helps to re-read the post.

I don't think the sensors are the issue.....

If it is the light sensor, it will stop, reverse and the lights will flash.....as far as I know, almost all of the sears drives do that. And I don't think the sensor will prevent it from going up....just down.

I would be leaning towards the force adjustment or something else....

Might be a good excuse for that Liftmaster.....
 

rocketmac

Active member
Joined
Nov 15, 2010
Messages
32
Location
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
I've have 2 Sears chain drive door openers. I've had an intermitent problem with the light sensors on the one door almost since they were installed. I have a short that comes and goes in the wiring on the one side. Of course this causes the door to either stay up or down. Is there anyway to by-pass those goofy light sensors or do I have to rewire this whole thing. The thought of digging through attic insulation and tearing into finished and painted drywall doesn't thrill me.

Thanks..

Dave:
I disabled my sensors by taping them together with the sensors facing each other and it's been fine for 6 yrs. if anyone is lying under the garage door and cant see the door coming down then it serves them right. This is not to say that I wish any one to get hurt but if people used common sense , which isn't that common then it should be fine.
:headscrat
 

nehog

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2010
Messages
7,935
Location
Jaffrey, NH
Dave:
I disabled my sensors by taping them together with the sensors facing each other and it's been fine for 6 yrs. if anyone is lying under the garage door and cant see the door coming down then it serves them right. This is not to say that I wish any one to get hurt but if people used common sense , which isn't that common then it should be fine.
:headscrat

Until some smaller child (ever see a child with common sense?) comes along, a dog, cat, or whatever (common sense, Fido?) comes along, or SWMBO (she'll ignore the risk just because you're involved!) comes along, any neighbor comes along (and doesn't realize what you've done,) doesn't realize what is going on, and stands 'firm' and is hurt or killed. An improperly adjusted opener can and will kill--any I'd suspect that any opener that has the safety equipment bypassed in such a manner is going to also have the force adjustments and other adjustments mis-set as well.

Sure "it has been just fine for..." is good for you to feel OK about it, but then the neighbor's kid dies, or has a broken neck and is permanently injured then it's "OMG, I didn't know, I didn't realize."

It is becoming more and more likely that doing something as negligent as this not only leaves you open for civil liability (above and beyond your paltry amount of home owner's insurance) but also for criminal liability. OH, sure that can be good, at least while in jail for negligent manslaughter you won't have resources to pay the civil suit, but don't think your wife, and rest of the family will be even remotely as lucky--they'll loose everything, all because you knowingly did the wrong thing. :shocking:
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom