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xcgates

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Google search turns up a Corvette forum, but also an odd entry on Uban Dictionary. Not vulgar or anything, but talks about CFOT being formally cool until a change in ownership.:headscrat
 

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Will there be a ground level concrete wall between the spiral staircase and the garage ? Sorry to be a naysayer, a secret lair is a very cool idea, but I would want to be really sure there was no possibility of flammables making their way from the garage to the living area :shocking:

There's a reason garages have steps from them to the house, and it's not to ensure your wife trips on her way to the dryer...

Seriously (about the steps)?

What's the reason?
 

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Great googly moogly.

Agreed. This is definitely the googliest of mooglies.



I really like how you built the garage (first picture) so that the mountain in the back would form the peak of the roof....you've planned everything! Great space! Nice work!

I'd pretty much bet that he built the garage and then had the mountain moved into place.



That's one hell of a tornado shelter.

Truly ---- especially the tunnel.



Everything about this project is brilliant.
you should install a periscope to spy on the neighbours / watch for delivery men :)

Great idea ---- or cameras with the monitors in the bunker.



Ah great idea, I got a laser level recently, so I can put it to use for this.

Do you mind telling me which laser you bought ---- and anyone feel free to chime in. I want/need one.
 

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What am I missing? :headscrat

Google search turns up a Corvette forum, but also an odd entry on Uban Dictionary. Not vulgar or anything, but talks about CFOT being formally cool until a change in ownership.:headscrat

Yeah, you're pretty close.

Utah is a regular on the Corvette Forum Off Topic (CFOT) board, and gets plenty of grief from the regulars there - most notably for his photography skills. A number of CFOT folks on this board as well -- it's a small world, isn't it??

:beer:
 

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Seriously (about the steps)?

What's the reason?

Flammable gases (and things like carbon monoxide) are heavier than air. Steps up into the house keep them from making their way into the living space. Steps down into living space invite them to pool down into the space. Also a reason that mechanic pits aren't seen anymore.
 

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Giving Utah grief about his pics? *Writes not to self*

Clearly they have never seen any of the filth *I* pass of as pictures.:lol_hitti
 

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Utah is a regular on the Corvette Forum Off Topic (CFOT) board, and gets plenty of grief from the regulars there - most notably for his photography skills. A number of CFOT folks on this board as well -- it's a small world, isn't it??

Ok - Now it makes sense!
 

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Seriously (about the steps)?

What's the reason?

Flammable gases (and things like carbon monoxide) are heavier than air. Steps up into the house keep them from making their way into the living space. Steps down into living space invite them to pool down into the space. Also a reason that mechanic pits aren't seen anymore.

Okay, I learn't somethin' new today ---- and I was thinking about putting a pit in the garage addition.

I suppose that I could put a drain / vent at the bottom of it ---- or just not do it at all.

Thanks for the information.
 

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Okay, I learn't somethin' new today ---- and I was thinking about putting a pit in the garage addition.

I suppose that I could put a drain / vent at the bottom of it ---- or just not do it at all.

Thanks for the information.

Carbon Monoxide and many solvents will seek to the lowest level. I have an acquaintance up this way that was burned badly in a pit at a large dealership years ago. A drain and REAL GOOD ventilation is an absolute must. I do hope that the Bunker has adequate ventilation and an alarm.
 
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Carbon Monoxide and many solvents will seek to the lowest level. I have an acquaintance up this way that was burned badly in a pit at a large dealership years ago. A drain and REAL GOOD ventilation is an absolute must. I do hope that the Bunker has adequate ventilation and an alarm.

Ah...makes sense. It passed inspection due to the fact that I installed an exterior door (with a nice tight seal) at the top of the stairs.

As for Carbon Monoxide... I don't ever run my cars in the garage, unless the door is open and I'm backing out. But I do have a detector in the basement and it's pretty well ventilated also. Hope this answers the question.

(but to be honest, the whole stairs in the garage things was news to me too)
 

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On the HGTV show, Holmes on Homes, there was a couple that had purchased a house with a walkout basement garage.

Mike Holmes was adamant about changing the garage to a regular room. He said that, as the basement had air ducts from the house's central heat and air system, it would **** the fumes from the vehicles' exhaust into the house.

I could almost agree with him IF the vehicles would sit running in the basement ---- but, as utah just said, I would only be driving my vehicles in or out of my basement garage (and obviously with the garage door open).

In my house (in Arkansas), the lower level (walkout basement) uses the same central heat and air as the upper level.

As a sidenote, since my family deals in a lot of real estate, I've been thinking about how many houses I've seen that have a couple steps down into the garage and how, now and then, I'd see one that has the garage essentially on the same level (no steps at all) as the main living space.

It's all just fascinating.
 

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On the HGTV show, Holmes on Homes, there was a couple that had purchased a house with a walkout basement garage.

Mike Holmes was adamant about changing the garage to a regular room. He said that, as the basement had air ducts from the house's central heat and air system, it would **** the fumes from the vehicles' exhaust into the house.

I could almost agree with him IF the vehicles would sit running in the basement ---- but, as utah just said, I would only be driving my vehicles in or out of my basement garage (and obviously with the garage door open).

In my house (in Arkansas), the lower level (walkout basement) uses the same central heat and air as the upper level.

As a sidenote, since my family deals in a lot of real estate, I've been thinking about how many houses I've seen that have a couple steps down into the garage and how, now and then, I'd see one that has the garage essentially on the same level (no steps at all) as the main living space.

It's all just fascinating.

Mike Holmes is a quack.

Everyone takes his word on his show as fact. But he's wrong about a lot of things, and he blows everything out of proportion. It's to the point where I can't even watch him without getting mad his little elf helper(Damon?) is a jerk-off, too.

Try dealing with customers after they watch him or Shell Busey. All of a sudden I don't know what I'm talking about because these pro's saw Mike or Shell do something different (or way more expensive) on TV!
 
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Not to hi-jack this thread, but what you say is interesting.

Here's my overall thought. When his show first came on, I thought it was mildly interesting ---- but then, as you stated, I started feeling that he was blowing things out of proportion. There was an episode in which he re-did a couples' basement ---- and he spoke about how he brought in a brick specialist and an iron specialist and a this specialist and a that specialist. After watching that episode, my thought was that I could act as GC and remodel your basement perfectly -------- for $10,000,000 (or a little more if I have to bring in a doorknob specialist).

I'm sure that a lot of General Contractors would like to see him crossing the street in front of their trucks ---- especially after they try to explain something to a customer who responds with something like, "That's not how Mike Holmes said it should be done."

That said ---- and to bring this post back to the subject of this thread ---- I would be curious as to what degree having a basement garage that uses the same central heat and air as the upper level could be dangerous ---- though utah and I may have answered the questions for ourselves in that we don't leave our vehicles running in the garage.


Mike Holmes is a quack.

Don't hold back. Say what you really think! :D :lol: :D
 

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Just speaking on having a garage on the same air system as the rest of a house, I'm not sure I'd like it as I frequently have very smelly/dusty things going on I don't need to put through what I'm filtering for house use.
 

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Maybe I am too far out of the box on this but...

I dont see a problem with using the same system to condition the air in house and garage as long as there isnt a return air duct drawing from the garage. i mean, I use the same system for my bathrooms as the rest of the house but I dont **** return air from them. (yuck, pyewy)

Just my take.


John
 

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Not to hijack any further, but a simple control system could be hooked up to eliminate the issue with CO. A CO detector is placed in a Outside Air/ Return Air mixing box. both the inlet of the RA and OA have control dampers, when the CO detects too many ppm of CO, the dampers actuate and bring in 100% OA. That is probably what you would see in dealership show rooms or service waiting rooms, etc. Return ducts in garages would not be up to code in the US
 
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I wouldn't have the same heating cooling system for my garage either.

In fact the garage only has a natural gas ceiling mount heater... and no air cond. The underground portion is on a completely seperate system from the main house. So on the off chance that a small amount of somthing or other got down there.. it wouldn't spread to the main house. In addition, there are about 7 steps from the basement of the garage up the tunnel to the main house..
 

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I don't think the danger would lie in stuff from the garage getting into the house, just merely being present in the basement. As long as you're not spilling copious amounts of gasoline or other flammable solvents, running your car for long periods of time in the garage with the door shut, etc., and you have a moderately well-sealing door, I don't think you'll have any problems.

Just as pure paranoia though I think I'd keep a couple of well-maintained CO detectors down there, as that would be my biggest concern given the nature of the construction (subterranean and encased in concrete).
 

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Been a long while since I visited this thread, but by far is one of the coolest builds I've seen. I just seen where you had a Lambo and it got wrecked. Glad no one was hurt. How long did it take from start to finish to repair it, or did I miss that. I know that you just don't take it to the local body guy around the corner to fix it. And if you don't mind me asking, looking at the damage, what does something like that cost to repair? I know when I hit a deer, I had $4000 in damage and it was way worse than what you show, but I imagine with being a Lambo it would be maybe 5-10 times that amount? Just curious as I'll never be able to afford a car like that, let alone repairing it :lol_hitti
 
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Been a long while since I visited this thread, but by far is one of the coolest builds I've seen. I just seen where you had a Lambo and it got wrecked. Glad no one was hurt. How long did it take from start to finish to repair it, or did I miss that. I know that you just don't take it to the local body guy around the corner to fix it. And if you don't mind me asking, looking at the damage, what does something like that cost to repair? I know when I hit a deer, I had $4000 in damage and it was way worse than what you show, but I imagine with being a Lambo it would be maybe 5-10 times that amount? Just curious as I'll never be able to afford a car like that, let alone repairing it :lol_hitti

Cracked the front bumper (carbon fiber) and dented the hood. All in all, pretty minor cosmetic damage. Total repair was just over $43,000 :scared:
 

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redonkulous build!!! I'm gonna show the wife this thread AFTER i rent the excavator! haha
 

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Mike Holmes is a quack.

Everyone takes his word on his show as fact. But he's wrong about a lot of things, and he blows everything out of proportion. It's to the point where I can't even watch him without getting mad his little elf helper(Damon?) is a jerk-off, too.

Try dealing with customers after they watch him or Shell Busey. All of a sudden I don't know what I'm talking about because these pro's saw Mike or Shell do something different (or way more expensive) on TV!

I have a very direct Holmes experience. He re did a "pizza cutter" "shoebox' townhouse unit. Over did it is more like it. well he wrote the builder accusing one of my signatory contractors of not meeting code. Well the contractor actually helped write the code originally and everything met code. So he was called out for it and on the show he tries to save face by saying, "this should be minimum code". The builders will use tin foil and cardboard if they could save a dollar, so we work within those tight budget parameters, then he comes in, throws a pile of money at a project,and claims it should all be done this way. Well, we should all drive AMG mercedes, but unfortuneatly, we need a market for entry level cars the masses can afford.
 

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awesome build. If I`m ever able to do something like this my wife would prefer underground.:bowdown:
 

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not "worth" but that's what was paid to get it fixed.. :bounce:

Utah, Weird question but did you buy it from or do you like Steve Harris Imports?
Does Utah have an official Lambo dealership now?
Is that Exotic Imports still off of I15 and 160-170th or further down? I remember doing work for their opening 13 or 14 years ago.
Several years later I almost bought a Maserati Merak from them.
 

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Mike Holmes is a quack.

Everyone takes his word on his show as fact. But he's wrong about a lot of things, and he blows everything out of proportion. It's to the point where I can't even watch him without getting mad his little elf helper(Damon?) is a jerk-off, too.

Try dealing with customers after they watch him or Shell Busey. All of a sudden I don't know what I'm talking about because these pro's saw Mike or Shell do something different (or way more expensive) on TV!
Overall I think he's pretty good. There's always multiple ways to fix a problem but Holmes uses a champagne approach when most of us can only afford the beer approach. It would be nice if he would be a little more clear on that aspect.
 
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Utah, Weird question but did you buy it from or do you like Steve Harris Imports?
Does Utah have an official Lambo dealership now?
Is that Exotic Imports still off of I15 and 160-170th or further down? I remember doing work for their opening 13 or 14 years ago.
Several years later I almost bought a Maserati Merak from them.

Didn't buy from Steve Harris.... but they used to service my Ferrari 360 I had. Service manager is great....

Bought the Lambo out of state.

Exotic Imports is no longer there. I remember going in and drooling over the Lambos there. Closest Lambo service is either Denver or Vegas.
 

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I was just telling a co worker about this build... I wasnt sure if it was still alive as I hadnt visited in many years. I LOVEEEEEEE everything about this thread.
 
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I was just telling a co worker about this build... I wasnt sure if it was still alive as I hadnt visited in many years. I LOVEEEEEEE everything about this thread.

Still here. Always a "work in progress" :bounce:
 
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