Good News Bad News
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tatra
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case of beer and an afternoon with a notebook.............
UncleJoe
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Good news is that you have a nice 20 x24 garage....Bad news after you spend a day or two planning you are gonna want a 40 x 48 garage. Ask me how I know !
JCQuick
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you start by showing us pictures then we'll help you finish it
I would run the wiring first also. I liked that a third of my garage was unfinished when I bought it. I got to place the outlets where I wanted them eventhough they are not yet hooked up.
As with anything there will be things that you wish you had done different.
As with anything there will be things that you wish you had done different.
thomask
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dsiddons,
I would suggest you run several air lines also? Put your storage/tools on the far end wall.
I would suggest you run several air lines also? Put your storage/tools on the far end wall.
Drywall or plywood? Thought about doing the ceiling with that steel patio roofing to give it that industrial look. The wiring is done. All the plugs are in place and have the electical hook ups for the welder and air compressor. Didn't think about the airlines.. Thats a good point.. Do I need to seal the floor before doing drywall or after? There is so much to think about it's driving me crazy. I wish I had a bigger garage yes. But we down sized below our means to save some cash for our future. Thanks to Dave Ramsey.. What a miserable thing to do..
Definitely start with a plan.
There are some good threads on this forum -- here's one with just two-car garages.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14670
What do you plan on doing in the garage? What do you want to store in it?
There are some good threads on this forum -- here's one with just two-car garages.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14670
What do you plan on doing in the garage? What do you want to store in it?
bczygan
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Read as much of GJ as you can.
Start making lists of uses you want to accommodate.
Don't be afraid to poke holes in walls and expand where needed or add on storage lean to sheds or covered storage areas to get yard maint. or storage items out.
Think of your whole lot and all it's structures as space to live in and use as you like. Give us the whole layout and what you want to be able to do. Think big and outside the box that is your garage and house.
Take your time and plan it completely.
Plan electrical, air, gas, phone, computer TV water and waste lines.
Think about heating and insulation.
Did I say plan and dream as much as possible???
And we need lots of photos!!!
Start making lists of uses you want to accommodate.
Don't be afraid to poke holes in walls and expand where needed or add on storage lean to sheds or covered storage areas to get yard maint. or storage items out.
Think of your whole lot and all it's structures as space to live in and use as you like. Give us the whole layout and what you want to be able to do. Think big and outside the box that is your garage and house.
Take your time and plan it completely.
Plan electrical, air, gas, phone, computer TV water and waste lines.
Think about heating and insulation.
Did I say plan and dream as much as possible???
And we need lots of photos!!!
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If I knew the things I know now because of the Garage Journal and otherwise I would be better off. I bought my house because of my Garage, I never thought that 4 yrs later I would have that place packed.
At my Uncles garage I had planed to run airlines, That got put off and after I had realized that I had most of the stuff to do it at my garage I had the place "packed". So do all that stuff now. You will run outta space befor you know it.
At my Uncles garage I had planed to run airlines, That got put off and after I had realized that I had most of the stuff to do it at my garage I had the place "packed". So do all that stuff now. You will run outta space befor you know it.
nissan_crawler
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I have about the same size (19x23), plus the washer/dryer is in it. It's FULL, but organized.
Some things have changed, but it's mostly still like this:
She's pretty well full with the cherry picker and hydraulic press floating around. It's taken 3-4 arrangings to get it to where I'm "happy with it" (a.k.a., as good as it's going to get).
Personally, I would seal your floor before drywall, otherwise you'll really have to clean to get that dust off first.
Some things have changed, but it's mostly still like this:
She's pretty well full with the cherry picker and hydraulic press floating around. It's taken 3-4 arrangings to get it to where I'm "happy with it" (a.k.a., as good as it's going to get).
Personally, I would seal your floor before drywall, otherwise you'll really have to clean to get that dust off first.
JC23
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OK, a Hot Rod garage it is! But don't forget to 'pay' yerself with some fun. Like hanging a few Hot Rod parts or some Low Brow art on the walls. Better yet, on the cabinet doors. The 'other' idea with any garge is for it to be fun, FUN, FUN!
And welcome aboard! Where ya from? Ohio here.
Plainfield indiana. I have a 28' AV 8 and just moved into this small older home. Yeah, I have some old toys, pedal cars and grill shells to start with. Wish I had my old 6' round sinclair sign. Proably get started on the dry wall soon. I think the wife is going to lose the garage. Pair of barber chairs are in the plan also..
Part of the garage seems to be drywalled. It's brown???? Anyway it is drooping on the sides on the ceiling. Is this something that can be fixed when taped and mudded or will it need to be all torn out and started over? I bought the how to book but don't know a damn thing about drywall..
dirttracker18
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Nope, no easy fix there. someone used the wrong drywall on the ceiling. It is likely 24" oc and you need a more dense drywall for that otherwise it looks like yours.
You might be better off taking it down and putting up the proper stuff. If it is just on the sides of the ceiling you might be able to CAREFULLY bednit back up and sheet the walls to support the edges. If that is the case someone forgto to put up a nailing edge.
Rememer, everything can be fixed but at what point is it easier to start again? Up to you
You might be better off taking it down and putting up the proper stuff. If it is just on the sides of the ceiling you might be able to CAREFULLY bednit back up and sheet the walls to support the edges. If that is the case someone forgto to put up a nailing edge.
Rememer, everything can be fixed but at what point is it easier to start again? Up to you
JC23
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I would think you'd have to factor the lighting in on that ceiling repair. You gonna flush mount and hardwire? Or just hang the lights and plug 'em in? I went with plugs as I can repair a light easier on a bench than up on a ladder. Plus, I'll take 'em with me when I move.
Drywall isn't all that hard as it is tedious. It's forgiving when painted, too.
Drywall isn't all that hard as it is tedious. It's forgiving when painted, too.
bczygan
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Someone said on another thread to seal the conc. before DW because it's hard to clean DW from the conc. in prep for sealing after the DW is done first.
On a design note. To maximize use of space, organize and create work centers that have all the tools for a task, and/or make tools and accessories movable. Use all available space, every nook and cranny. For a working garage this can look messy. Put things in cabinets or enclosures with doors or curtains to hide the clutter, but still have everything close at hand. Look at the 12 Gauge Garage here on GJ. Jack has everything hidden in cabinets, yet there are a lot of fold down and other useful work surfaces.
On a design note. To maximize use of space, organize and create work centers that have all the tools for a task, and/or make tools and accessories movable. Use all available space, every nook and cranny. For a working garage this can look messy. Put things in cabinets or enclosures with doors or curtains to hide the clutter, but still have everything close at hand. Look at the 12 Gauge Garage here on GJ. Jack has everything hidden in cabinets, yet there are a lot of fold down and other useful work surfaces.
Falcon67
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LOL! And here's another plan - I'm almost at the tail end of moving out of my nice 20x24 and 10x12 shed. I'm at 9 pickup loads with 2 to go plus one load about 600~800 lbs of scrap metal and one dead pickup to drag across town. So plan to NEVER MOVE.
Damn, my back hurts.gjz30075
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I'd love to have your bad news!
It was where to start. Got some great ideas now. So maybe thats good new today.
timtim2008
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no pix?
Okay, got me some estimates on drywall. Ceiling and one wall has old drywall that has to come out. Material, labor, and demolition is 1500$ Trash dump is 100$.. This is a 20x24 garage will 10ft ceiling.. Is that a good price for drywall? He will paint and hang lights for 500 more clams..
ddawg16
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Sounds high......
Why not do the work yourself....it's not hard.....that is what beer and friends are for.
BTW....my garage is 'almost' the same size....see the link in my sig for pics.
In any case....before you get the walls done...DO THE ELECTRICAL. Much easier to run romex when your not dealing with drywall.
Some common things you will see here on GJ....it's never big enough....you never have enough outlets....or light....
So go grab a beer (or two), sit down and start searching...keywords, drywall, OSB, outlets, air lines, lighting, cabinets, concrete sealing, and tunes.