Damn Snap On Truck

[wrenchr]

You know what they say, you can't take it with yuh, so enjoy it while your hear!!
Nice set!!
And thank you for everything!! Be safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason.

 

[Deafautotech]

Looks like a nice set to start out with. Try to get that one paid off before you buy anymore though. Once you start buying SO stuff it's hard to stop!

oh yeah!! you got me in trouble!!! i suppose to stop buy snap on tools but i cant do that because i need good tools to do like special tools...

 

[wilbilt]

an interesting homework assignment would be to tote up a total on the same pile on finished auctions at eBay.

Maybe a total on comparable (yeah, right) items from HF would be worth a laugh, too.

 

[Jononon]

Maybe a total on comparable (yeah, right) items from HF would be worth a laugh, too.

I think I know which set would win a benefit analysis over time

A comparison of the same set made up from other comparable brands, Knipex for the pliers etc., might be instructive as to where SnapOn compares well and/or badly

, although a single supply and warranty source is obviously handy, as well for as the finance.

 

[Crank1]

Yes, the tools came in a box. I just picked them up today from the Snap On dealer. I've been working the last 2 days. It came with a slightly worn(display model) KRA2055, and a brand new KRA2007 bottom. So you be the judge if it's a decent deal or not.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...group_ID=18012&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...group_ID=18013&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

 

[Uncle Buck]

Crank1, take this as you will.
Marriage is a two-way street. It amounts to a lot of give and take.
Sometimes, the give takes precedence. A lot.

The stats show that most marriages today end in divorce. I know a lot of young people that have been married and divorced. Some of them more than once.

The one common factor among all of those divorces was the "mine/yours" division. My time, Your time. My money, Your money. My kids/Your kids, My bills/Your bills, etc., etc.

I have been married to my wife for nearly 22 years. Since day 1, there has been no "Mine/Yours" thing going on. It is all "ours". It has been mostly great times, some bad times, and a few really bad times. The really bad times put the test on "The Few and the Proud".

There has never been a "Toy Fund", or a "Vacation Fund", or a "Build a Garage" Fund.

The "Put Food on the Table" Fund, the "Fix the Roof" Fund and the "Diaper the Kids' Asses" Funds have always taken precedence.

In my observations over the years, many marriages have failed due to the lady's "Spend it Till it's Gone" Fund and the man's "I Deserve More Toys" Fund.

I am just relating my experiences and observations. Based on the "don't tell the fiancee" thing, I would assume you are drawing the line early on. Are you planning this marriage for life, or just a couple of years?

And that dear friends is indeed how one stays married in today's chaotic world!

 

[Crank1]

I think y'all are taking the buying the tools thing way out of context. I do have a savings. I already have our wedding rings and engagement rings paid off. The wedding is taken care of. When we get married, I(being in the Marine Corps) am going to have to go live in this shittay barracks called the bachelor barracks here on base. Costs a dollar a day. I believe BAH(Basic Allowance for Housing) is around 700 a month, Comrats(Pay for Chow) is around 250, and Seperations pay is going to be around 200 a month. This is all on top of my base pay. Now I could easily go out in town and get a place for 600 a month that'll blow 600 of that 1150 every month, But NOOO, I'm going to suffer and live in A SHOWER STALL, honestly, its a squadbay, with a curtains dividing your living quarters, community showers and heads, no music, no phone calls in the sleeping quarters(Must go outside) >>>> But I'm going to take one for the team and live it those hellacious barracks so I can make an 1100 dollar alotment every month towards a savings account. When I get married, I'll have approx. 30 months left before I EAS, in which time, if i can put away 1100 bucks every month for 30 months. That's a pretty good hunk of change for a downpayment on building a house. Her Grandpa is giving us 10 acres of his farm. So we'll have 10 acres of land as collateral, hopefully 30 grand in the bank. And all the bills paid off(Because all of that extra pay is on top of your base pay, which is about $1100 a month on its own, I pay my current bills out of this money) I really dont see where taking care of things now, paying off bills and having a set of tools paid off when I am out is an entirely bad thing. ... Its not a my money her money thing, its the fact that it's barely beer/cigarette money for everyone else... I'm just doing something productive with it
Brandon

 

[wilbilt]

I really dont see where taking care of things now, paying off bills and having a set of tools paid off when I am out is an entirely bad thing. ... Its not a my money her money thing, its the fact that it's barely beer/cigarette money for everyone else... I'm just doing something productive with it

Sounds like a good plan. Don't be so sure about the beer money thing. Not very long ago, I was in a similar income situation, but with a wife, 3 kids and a mortgage.

I think though, if I were in your situation and determined to buy tools at this point, they would be house-building tools.

 

[MarkH]

A number of this group which ranges from teens to well much older. Sometimes we give each other grief, but many of us have made all of the mistakes, so we share. Don't take it personally, well actually take it personally that there are still groups that give a damm you do not make the same mistakes we probably made and see others make.

Enjoy, let us know what happens as you work. Actually I was older when I found there was good tools, frustrated having bought cheap ****, and boy did the cuss'in go away from not having to fight the job and the tool.

 

[ColdDuckTime]

You'll just have to forgive any curmudgeonly outbursts from me...I just have this enormous allergy to debt (include mortgages) of any kind.

I'm afraid this thing that Warren Buffet calls the 'Sharecropper Society' has gone a bit too far for my tastes.

 

[Crank1]

I understand everyone is letting me know what I should or should not do. I appreciate it, but sometimes some things are in different circumstances. I am going to tell my fiancee, just not now. I also do not like debt, but rather have the debt now while I'm in the Marines than to have the debt after i get out, then get laid off from a job, and cant afford to pay the bill for them. I am trying to get the stuff now, so I dont have to extend myself so much in the future when I will have a house to pay for.
Brandon

 

[Junkman]

I understand everyone is letting me know what I should or should not do. I appreciate it, but sometimes some things are in different circumstances. I am going to tell my fiancee, just not now. I also do not like debt, but rather have the debt now while I'm in the Marines than to have the debt after i get out, then get laid off from a job, and cant afford to pay the bill for them. I am trying to get the stuff now, so I dont have to extend myself so much in the future when I will have a house to pay for.
Brandon

Have you ever thought about saving and not buying until you have the need? If you have as much will power as you profess, then saving the money now and not buying until you actually need the items might be the better choice. If you buy now, then you have the problem as to where to keep them, and what do you do if they get stolen before you get out of the service. It is one thing to buy what you want, whenever you want, but you also have to think beyond the purchase as to where these items are going to reside and how much use you will be putting them to. If they are going to be in a closet somewhere and not be used, then I suggest you rethink your plans. Just some advise from an old man that has been down this road many times before you. I have a garage full of "things" that I thought that I might need someday, only to realize that "someday" has arrived and gone by, without my ever needing some of these items. Now, I am thinking of divesting a lot of my earthly possessions so my wife won't have to think about it when I am no longer on this earth. We spend a greater portion of our lives acquiring goods, and then in our twilight years, we start throwing out and selling them, many times having never needed them in the first place. Enough said..................

 

[toolfreak]

I don't think there is anything wrong with him buying the tools if he will be using them when he gets out of the service. The main thing I don't like is the high interest rate off the truck.

I do however agree with Junk's last post about it might have been a good idea to just save the money and bought them when you have the need for them. I have bought alot of tools thinking I would use them and turns out I have only used them once or twice.

People have always thought I spend too much on tools but I use them at work so they make me money. It's funny they always change there attitude about it when they want me to fix something for them. Congrats on the new tools and I hope you enjoy them.

 

[ColdDuckTime]

I do however agree with Junk's last post about it might have been a good idea to just save the money and bought them when you have the need for them. I have bought alot of tools thinking I would use them and turns out I have only used them once or twice.

That makes sense to me, too. Just as an exercise, I went through this set:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...d=2269&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all

...at $2247.40

and found what it would cost on eBay (which has the nice side effect of pay-as-you-go) for all new items including shipping, rounding up to the nearest dollar on everything...this is all from completed auctions.

Set, General Service, 6-Point (14 pcs. In plastic tray) Stock #:114ATMP <$97.00>
Set, Adaptor/Extension (6 pcs.) Stock #:206EAU <$75.00>
Set, Socket, Shallow, 6-Point (11 pcs.) (1/4" to 7/8") Stock #:211FSY <$57.00>
Set, Socket, Deep, 6-Point (11 pcs.) (1/4" to 7/8") Stock #:211SFSY <$143.00>
Set, Wrench, Combination, 12-Point (9 pcs. In tray) (3/8" to 7/8") Stock #:OEX709B <$120.00>
Wire Stripper/Cutter, (AWG 10 to 20), 6" Stock #WC6 <$20.00>
Set, Punch and Chisel, 11 pcs. (Center/Pin/Starter/Flat) Stock #PC710A <$99.00>
Hammer, Ball Peen, 16 oz. Stock #:BP16B <$28.00>
Mirror, Round, 14" extension (Mirror: 2 1/4" Diameter) Stock #:GA295 <$10.00>
Goggles, Chemical Splash Stock #:GAC1580 <$5.00>
Ratchet, Sealed Head (High Strength), Standard Handle, 7 11/32" Stock #:F936 <$40.00>
Set, Cutters/Pliers, 3 pcs. Stock #L300ACP <$75.00>
Set, General Service, 6-Point (17 pcs.) Stock #:317MSPC <$263.00>
Carbon Scraper, Rigid, Black, 7/8" Blade Width, 7 5/8" Stock #:CSA8C <$21.00>
Hacksaw, Deluxe (for 12" blades) Stock #:HS18A <$22.00>
Set, Screwdriver, Combination, Flat Tip/PHILLIPS ACR , Soft Grip, Red (8 pcs.) Stock #:SGDX80A <$92.00>
Hammer, Plastic Tip, 16 oz. Stock #:HBPT16 <$22.00>
Set, Wrench, L-Shape, Hex (15 pcs.) (.028" to 3/8") Stock #:AW1015DK <$35.00>
Pick-up Tool, Magnetic, Telescopic, Chrome Stock #T5C <$7.00>

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$1231.00

Now, it may well be that the truck salesman doesn't sell at full-boat retail (or charge sales tax), but it does sort of prove to me that eBay is about 1/2 of listed price.

 

[Jononon]

$1231.00

Now you're just tormenting the poor lad !

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

politically correct mortgages , just what snap on man complains about with his bad loans to lube rack monkeys , then they get fired and he is out

economics 101

 

[ColdDuckTime]

Now you're just tormenting the poor lad !

Oh well, it's Primatology 101 that the elder males have to growl at the juveniles when they rush through the forest canopy. I'd happily trade financial nonprowess (a privilege of youth, after all) for getting all my hair back.

It reminds me of when I approached my dad to borrow $1200 to buy a W30 Olds 442, who then proceded to laugh his *** off at the mere concept of lending his progeny money for a car. Those Depression Era/WWII dudes were (are, I suppose) pretty ********* about money.

 

[eschoendorff]

Oh well, it's Primatology 101 that the elder males have to growl at the juveniles when they rush through the forest canopy. I'd happily trade financial nonprowess (a privilege of youth, after all) for getting all my hair back.

It reminds me of when I approached my dad to borrow $1200 to buy a W30 Olds 442, who then proceded to laugh his *** off at the mere concept of lending his progeny money for a car. Those Depression Era/WWII dudes were (are, I suppose) pretty ********* about money.

Yeah... my dad is one of them. And he's ******** about EVERYTHING... money, RELIGION, politics, etc....

 

[wilbilt]

It reminds me of when I approached my dad to borrow $1200 to buy a W30 Olds 442, who then proceded to laugh his *** off at the mere concept of lending his progeny money for a car. Those Depression Era/WWII dudes were (are, I suppose) pretty ********* about money.

Heh. My dad actually lent me the $1300 to buy my second car, a '67 Chevelle SS396. I was surprised to say the least, but very pleased. Considering that I had rolled my first car, I had expected the short reply, but figured I would ask anyway....

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

This is Melissa and myself back in April, the last time I was home...

Second is my toolset. I think we can both live in harmony.

Here's a set similar to yours (not quite as much) on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/SNAP-ON-Tools-M...ryZ42261QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Wonder what it will go for?

-BWP

 

[Coach James]

You got a good steady, secure job for as long as you want it, a nice girl waiting for you to marry her and 10 acres of land coming your way. I'd say you have done pretty good for yourself.
Coach

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

nothing like mutual debt , enjoy your credit now

 

[Danglerb]

Its easier to share debt than it is to share wealth.

 

[Crank1]

Well y'all folks keep on naysaying, but wouldn't one assume it'd be better to be in debt now, investing in the future, that way, when I got a litter of young'un running around, I got money to feed them, rather than pay the snap on guy. Oh, btw, I have 3 more years left in the Marine Corps. and if i pay just my minimum payments, it'll be paid off in 36 months... 3 YEARS... when i get out, no debt.... WOW