so who uses autoenginuity as a pro tool

[dime]

well i have been looking at the proline set and was planning on getting it and a tough book to use as my more hi end tool so i was just wondering if anybody is using it for a pro setup or not? also what body controls and everything it will do and just in general what you think of it? I did use search but there seemed to be alot of opinions either way so i just thaught i would ask for myself.

 

[scott37300]

I'm not a pro but I bought AE with the ford bundle to use on my 250 diesel since you need to read the manufacturer specific codes for the diesel. I love it, especially for the price. The live data and all the other KOEO, KOEO, KOEO tests you can do with it. I'm sure it's not the best but for what I needed and the price it was the most complete package. And customer service is great and also the yearly update is only like 50 bucks, I usually update mine every other year so it's only 50 bucks every 2 years.

 

[dime]

right on im glad your liking it. i have a autoxray techscan 7000 scan tool right now for normal live data and all that. im looking at the autoenginuity setup for doing all the realy fancy stuff like the body controls air bags the more in depth bidirectional stuff that my 7000 doesnt do. and the cheap upgrades sound great i think its only 100 for the proline setup to upgrade. does anybody have an opinion on the a e proline setup vs a genisus or modis or any of those kinda hi end tools?

 

[dime]

Like I said I'm realy just wanting opinions on how the proline ae setup compares to the hi end scan tools like genysis and modis and whatever else you can compare too.

 

[dime]

so nobody but scott uses this or has an opinion on it?

 

[ptschram]

Genysis is a high end scan tool?
I used one a while back and wasn't that impressed by it.

Haven't used the autoengenuity so I can't comment on that.

 

[mech.reclined]

Depends on what type of vehicles and how "deep" you need to get in a diag.

 

[dime]

so what would you compare it to mech.reclined?

 

[jay50]

I used the AE Proline and love it. Best bang for the buck as far as depth of coverage and price. It takes a littlw while to get used to it, but worth the learning curve.
I hardly use the Tech2 or Virus anymore.

 

[mech.reclined]

Our shop was primarily a GM/Ford house before I came to work for them.Owners purchased a couple of Genysis tools with smart cables and that covered 75% of what they did.Some bi-directional,no program capabilites.They felt they were opening themselves up to unwanted problems by "reflashing" or downloading software upgrades.Coming from a Dealer background,they saw Ford's wonderful diagnostic hardware and said "no thanks".

I have been working on German cars since 1985 and they REALLY did things differently.Bosch had lots of tools out there and as the dealerships did away with those machines,money was all it took for us to get our hands on them.The Bosch "Hammer" for Porsche was one example.A few people started reverse eng. these tools,and they actually got better than dealer level equip..User friendly might be a better term.

Right now I use VCDS for all my Audi/VW work.Loaded on a netbook,I can use it while going down the road or in a stall.The guys at Ross-Tech upgrade this tool about every 4-6 months to de-bug and add new features.I can run a readiness test after repairing emissions faults without leaving my stall.No more 2 trip drive cycles,keeping the car overnight.I know its fixed.The only thing I have not been able to do with it is program keys.More to do with VW's security than anything else.

I have other 1 auto line scan tools that were purchased as they became dealer cast offs.All work extremely well for a specific time frame of certain model years.There are modules you can only access thru these tools.But,as new scanners come on to the market,they are able to read more indepth than before.Depending on what you mostly work on,is it more important to excell in say ford diesel diagnosis.Or do you want to be able to do a little of everything,leaving some holes because the software developers have not gotten around to that yet?

I would ask the various tool vendors "who do you know that has tool X in the area?".See if you can borrow a demo.When Snap On found out I was looking for coverage of more Euro cars,they had a Regional guy come out and give me a seminar on their tool.The Euro coverage at that time was sparse.If they sense a sale,most of them will stumble all over trying to convince you that theirs is best.Make them prove it.Set up a demo car and have them over to diagnose it.Even NAPA has a scan tool division.But do not buy until you are convinced that this will help YOU in your business.

 

[greasemonkey44]

i use ae on a netbook at work, im thinking for getting the domestic bundle too
right now its only generic but works well, and is very reasonable. the live data and mode 6 works well. i havent used it long enough(only a few months) to give a real review but i am very happy with it so far
as a side note have any other AE users used it to configure tire pressure sensors? i read they have a package for that, and have been doing alot of that bs

 

[mtkst19]

for vw keys-- buy vag commander, rip the 4 digit pin from the cluster. or look for the code on the valet key. then use the vag com to program keys. good to 2005/6 models i have found. look on ebay. the $35 asian version works for this. it is nice to be able to program keys/clusters/etc.

as for autoenginutiy,

i am thisclose to pulling the trigger on the euro bundle. i want it only for jag. for ford drivetrain jags i use a lincoln vin to scan cars now to get around not having oem specific. same way i use to scan land rovers as bmws until snappy came out w/ the lr keys. Yet i cant buy just jag only-- i would feel weird not having it all. may as well spend the little more for it all. im waitng to buy it when i have extra disposable income.


i have vagcom for vw/audi. i dont see that being replaced ever. yet for bmw/mb i will use whatever tool is close to me--be it solus or genisys. land rover i been using snap on, and now i got volvo via snap on. last work we used autoland vedis which was a strong euro scan tool as well as a bosch hammer.

after talking on the phone to a rep of theirs, i am game to buy one. They have a lot of good stuff on bmw--as the the owner is a bmw person. They basically have a gt1 cloned. they show they have support of porsche. curious to see how in depth it is.

 

[PaulsGarage]

This is my personal opinion based on my experience with AE, please take it as such. I am a professional mechanic with a dozen years of experience and have used many scan tools from dealer models to aftermarket specialized, like Auto Logic (very expensive and very good!) to cheapo little code readers. Auto Enginuity is by far the worst, and most frustrating scanner I've ever encountered.

I work almost exclusively on European imports, I've had AE proline in the shop for 2 years now and I have purchased the needed "enhanced" software for BMW, MINI, Jag,and Range Rover. I absolutely hate it! It works only about 25% of the time, I've warrantied the proline connector and it worked for a while but is almost useless again, also it commonly shows "no faults detected" yet acknowledges the check-engine light is illuminated. I then scan the same car with a 12 year old generic hand-held and I can retrieve the faults without problems.

I would encourage you to consider other options. AE is inexpensive but this is another case where you do get what you pay for, even at the low price this tool is a waste of money.

-Paul

 

[dime]

Wow paulsgarage that's the first I've heard negative about it, or atleast that negative. Keep the opinions coming people I'm sure I'm not the only one interested.

 

[greasemonkey44]

This is my personal opinion based on my experience with AE, please take it as such. I am a professional mechanic with a dozen years of experience and have used many scan tools from dealer models to aftermarket specialized, like Auto Logic (very expensive and very good!) to cheapo little code readers. Auto Enginuity is by far the worst, and most frustrating scanner I've ever encountered.

I work almost exclusively on European imports, I've had AE proline in the shop for 2 years now and I have purchased the needed "enhanced" software for BMW, MINI, Jag,and Range Rover. I absolutely hate it! It works only about 25% of the time, I've warrantied the proline connector and it worked for a while but is almost useless again, also it commonly shows "no faults detected" yet acknowledges the check-engine light is illuminated. I then scan the same car with a 12 year old generic hand-held and I can retrieve the faults without problems.

I would encourage you to consider other options. AE is inexpensive but this is another case where you do get what you pay for, even at the low price this tool is a waste of money.

-Paul

i heard bad things about their euro packages, a guy had trouble with porche another with beemers. also heard they updated/ changed thier interface and it was better
sux to hear that, i mostly do domestic and its very effective for that

 

[dime]

Ya I should have Probly specified I'm mostly interested in the domestic and Asian proline setup. I don't work on newer European cars very often. All opinions are appreciated though someday I may need to upgrade to the euro stuff too.

 

[Black_Blade]

I am looking into getting AE with the GM enhanced add-on. I work at a cab company, where 95% of the cars are chevy impalas (2006 and newer) with the other 5% being Dodge Caravans and Ford Freestars.
We currently use an OTC Genysis Evo 4.0, which is ok, but whenever we need to have the ABS bled, we have to farm it out to another garage that has the Snap-on Verus.
We would like to get a scan tool that gives us that ABS bleed functionality and by the sounds of it, AE Proline will be able to do this for us and at an attractive price point.
Has anyone used the AE Proline for ABS bleeding? All of its other features is just icing on the cake if it does this job for us.