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Should I use the college discount for SO tools?

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I'm currently in college for a 4 year manufacturing program, and anyone here can use the discount to get most of the SO tools they offer at half price. Since my dads gone off somewhere, he took almost all of the tools from home, so I just have what's in my little machinists box. No tools at the house except for a screwdriver and a drill.

Question is, should I really take advantage of the discount and buy some quality tools? I barely have enough just to be a basic machinist. No ratchets. No sockets. Nothing like that but a single combo wrench set.

Is it worth it? I've been looking at some of their stuff. It's rather appealing..
 
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I'm currently in college for a 4 year manufacturing program, and anyone here can use the discount to get most of the SO tools they offer at half price. Since my dads gone off somewhere, he took almost all of the tools from home, so I just have what's in my little machinists box. No tools at the house except for a screwdriver and a drill.

Question is, should I really take advantage of the discount and buy some quality tools? I barely have enough just to be a basic machinist. No ratchets. No sockets. Nothing like that but a single combo wrench set.

Is it worth it? I've been looking at some of their stuff. It's rather appealing..

What tools do you really need as a machinist that snapon sells?
 

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I bought more than I would like to, spent about 2k in the last few months, my box is full of snap on, but even at 50% off, the prices are hard to justify.
 

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Yes! and if your good with negotiating you can get even more off. if your serious about ur career then this is one of the best places to get quality tools as once you leave college you don't get the discount. But being in college means ur poor :(
 

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Do NOT buy sets. They have these "starter" sets filled with fluff, in order to make them more complete you need to buy other sets, and end up with expensive duplicates.

Use the discount for tools where snapon has the market cornered, mostly special stuff. Cordless impact, air hammer, flare wrenches, torx bits ect ect. Those are areas where a discounted student price is rarely ever debated value/quality.

Other areas are under much more debate and free to shop elsewhere.

(or you can go the resale route)
Basically, if you leave college with either nothing or a giant box filled with only that brand, you did wrong. :D
 
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What tools do you really need as a machinist that snapon sells?

I don't. My point is, I'm going to need tools at home anyways. And when I move. I'd really like a ratchet/socket set, at the minimum. Over 75% of the tools I currently have are American made, at a cost of about $2200. Starrett, Armstrong, Proto, Craftsman, etc. I'd like to expand that. I'm a real follower of the "Buy american made" movement. However, I don't put that ahead of quality. I have many tools from Germany and Japan as well, just not as many.

I also like to work on cars, make things for the shop (benches, etc), and i'd be nice to not have to borrow things just to do it.

I try not to buy cheap stuff, and 50% off sounds great to me, I'm just not sure whether to pull the trigger on it or not.
 

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Do it, just be very selective on what you purchase.

As you have probably already found, no brand makes the BEST of EVERY tool, and definitely doesn't have the best VALUE.

As mentioned before, there is so MUCH debate when it comes to basic combo wrench, chrome socket, and ratchets. That means you have a choice in several brands/models.

In other areas, someone asks "who makes the best ___", everyone agrees on snap on and the debate is over.

Other tools are rebranded anyways, so go to the source.


The last thing you want is a huge tool loan at exorbitant interest on top of student loans. As a further kick in the nuts, you will most likely not have a tool truck servicing you on a regular basis, so cannot justify extra price based on to the door service.

The guys who go "hog wild" with the oversized box filled with chrome are the ones who get preyed on by GJ members, later when they are forced to sell for less than they paid.

Be very selective with each and every tool you consider purchasing from them. Especially since COO is important to you, as they are also a global company like everybody else.
 
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Yes! and if your good with negotiating you can get even more off. if your serious about ur career then this is one of the best places to get quality tools as once you leave college you don't get the discount. But being in college means ur poor :(

Yeah. I'm surprised I spent so much on tools anyways. The "required" starter set for my class is $300. My Starrett calipers and mics were that much. But then again, you can never have too many tools. Unless you start buying things of the same item, then you need some help :)

The last thing you want is a huge tool loan at exorbitant interest on top of student loans. As a further kick in the nuts, you will most likely not have a tool truck servicing you on a regular basis, so cannot justify extra price based on to the door service.

The guys who go "hog wild" with the oversized box filled with chrome are the ones who get preyed on by GJ members, later when they are forced to sell for less than they paid.

Be very selective with each and every tool you consider purchasing from them. Especially since COO is important to you, as they are also a global company like everybody else.

Yeah, I really don't need any more loans. It comes out to be around 28 a year, which is definitely enough. The guys in the automotive programs need like $4000 in stuff. Crazy.

On the COO issue, I'm fairly certain that all of the specific SO branded wrenches/ratchets/sockets are made in the US. That's probably what I'll buy for now, but I really need to look at the catalog and see what I'll actually use.
 

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...Question is, should I really take advantage of the discount and buy some quality tools? I barely have enough just to be a basic machinist. No ratchets. No sockets. Nothing like that but a single combo wrench set.

Is it worth it? I've been looking at some of their stuff. It's rather appealing..

Does Howdy Doody have wooden balls? :)
 

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I don't. My point is, I'm going to need tools at home anyways. And when I move. I'd really like a ratchet/socket set, at the minimum. Over 75% of the tools I currently have are American made, at a cost of about $2200. Starrett, Armstrong, Proto, Craftsman, etc. I'd like to expand that. I'm a real follower of the "Buy american made" movement. However, I don't put that ahead of quality. I have many tools from Germany and Japan as well, just not as many.

I also like to work on cars, make things for the shop (benches, etc), and i'd be nice to not have to borrow things just to do it.

I try not to buy cheap stuff, and 50% off sounds great to me, I'm just not sure whether to pull the trigger on it or not.

50% off is good but you have to ask yourself even at 50% they are still high next to other tools. SK will have some nice tools coming out USA made soon, they were just bought out by Ideal. Not sure where the prices will be when they do. If you do a lot of work at home maybe you can justify the price. Snap on prices are pretty high and IMO not justifiable for normal folks unless you just have tons of extra money. I was looking at the sockets shallow/deep SAE/Metric, it was like 740 bucks to get them. Even at 370bucks that is still 250 dollars more then same stuff in Gear Wrench brand. The odds are you won't want to drag tools to and from work. So you'll prolly end up with two sets of tools. My machinist buddies do not seem to have a lot of snap on type tool at work. Just basic stuff. They do however they have lots of money ******* in measuring tools and they don't go cheap there.
 

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you could prob make a few bucks resellin new stuff for 75% of retail at least. use that to get yourself some tools.
 

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It's funny, there are some schools who get the tools at 50% off retail and there are other schools who get them at roughly 66% off.

Watch out, not everything is 50% off and there are some items you can actually get cheaper on eBay new. Like one guy said before me, be very diligent about what your buying. The sets don't save you any money when compared to buying each item individually. Trust me, I have figured it all out before.

Like others have said, buy a couple easy sellers like 8 piece screwdriver sets and sell them. Use the profits to buy wrench sets and sockets for yourself. You can then get your tools for next to nothing. Sell internationally and really make a killing. They pay double for the same tools in Australia.

Regardless, if you buy smart, you can always get your money out of it. Thats my opinion at least.
 
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It's funny, there are some schools who get the tools at 50% off retail and there are other schools who get them at roughly 66% off.

Watch out, not everything is 50% off and there are some items you can actually get cheaper on eBay new. Like one guy said before me, be very diligent about what your buying. The sets don't save you any money when compared to buying each item individually. Trust me, I have figured it all out before.

I see what you mean. Some are more than 50% off. Some are more for the student than the list price! What the heck is with that? I'll be sure to check Fleabay before I buy anything though. I wouldn't mind putting about $200 in and reselling them, getting a little extra spend money on the way. Great idea.
 

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here's something for you to think about. My SO rep that comes to my school, will change out items on set orders if you don't need a particular item. Just ask your school's rep, shouldn't be a problem if mine can do it.

In addition to what is listed on the SEP site, if you type in the part number, then you can find additional items that you can get at student cost. There's a bunch of tools in the main catalog that is not listed on the SEP site.
 
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In addition to what is listed on the SEP site, if you type in the part number, then you can find additional items that you can get at student cost. There's a bunch of tools in the main catalog that is not listed on the SEP site.

They kinda just threw a huge list of the tools on the site that you can view (My schools website), but I'll have to take a look at the actual catalog. The one they give us is ALL text.
 

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At 50% off, why not buy something? If you're not an automotive tech you likely won't need the convenience of a tool truck driving to your place of employment, so no need to buy everything. But think of it as a life time purchase. When have you ever regretted getting "excellent" instead of "good enough?" "To buy cheap is to buy twice."

Yes, yes, I know, some folks will say buy Wright or Armstrong and get top quality US tools cheaper than tool truck prices. I agree. But at 50% off, why not get the socket sets/basic wrenches/bit drivers that everyone needs if they're doing any type of mechanical work? Not being a pro I can't justify buying off a tool truck, but I certainly would purchase some things at a 50% discount.

Be careful, but be smart. These would most likely be lifetime purchases. Not much can that be said of any more (computers, cell phone, digital cameras, vehicles, clothes????).
 

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Yes, yes, I know, some folks will say buy Wright or Armstrong and get top quality US tools cheaper than tool truck prices. I agree. But at 50% off, why not get the socket sets/basic wrenches/bit drivers that everyone needs if they're doing any type of mechanical work?


This is slightly flawed logic and somewhat true. I will explain. Some items are a bargain at 50% off or even full price. BUT before determining that, you have to research to find if the tool is truly superior, or atleast cheaper than the competitor. Sometimes SO pricing is even better than the competition.

Buying it JUST because it is half off makes little sense for tools that you plan on keeping unless they are better/cheaper/both.

Example? Let's use wright standard length combo wrenches. I am making up numbers/points purely for this example. Let's say after doing your research, you find the wright has atleast as good (or better) finish, ergonomics, fitment, warranty, strength, and clearance (or any other metric you use to gauge "performance") Then checking SO discounted price vs your best price on wright for the same thing. What if the wright is cheaper? It would absolutely not make sense to purchase the SO "just because it is half off" if it is still more expensive and doesn't offer a marked performance advantage.

Now that example is purely fictional, but is just that. An example. Buying something just because it is discounted/"on sale" is actually a type of emotional weakness lol. Some stores take advantage of that by marking up the msrp and then offering it "on sale", to take advantage of those emotions. Tire kickers who try to bargain down used car price just for the "rush" fit into the same category.

Since the main hardline tool collection is such a hotly debated topic (which brand ratchet is "best", which wrench is "best", which socket is "best") I strongly recommend you do research and trials to form opinions first. Some of the earlier threads have "fastener contact point" tests or even torque tests to help you decide.

"Brand myopia" or "blind brand loyalty" is what companies strive to build, but no way to build a tool collection. I like some of their stuff, others I will pass on. My specific opinions are not so relevant to you on which part of their lineup I like and dislike. Just as a quick example, I like their striking prybars. I use them daily and they satisfy me well, compared to many lesser units. On the other hand, I dislike their standard impact sockets, and am not satisfied. They perform the fastener removal task, but could be much better, especially for the price. It is mostly aesthetic so I do not bother with exchanges or warranty, just slowly replace them with alternatives. They may be sold to someone else who will enjoy them more in the future.
 

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Does anyone know if any of the "Classic" KRA series roll cabs are included in the SnapOn SEP Program? Are they about 50% off too? I have been planning on taking some evening classes in the fall from my local community college's auto tech program, but didn't think I'd qualify for Snap On's program because I wouldn't be going to school full time, and I'm only taking the classes as personal fulfillment and for the enjoyment. But according to some of the posts on this thread it may be worth my while to pursue the SEP program after all.
 

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Snap-On's intent appears to be to familiarize students with their products and get them started on what is hoped to be a life-long SO habit.
I doubt that the intent includes setting up students to be tool resellers, in competition with SO dealers.

When I was in college, a returning veteran student bought a huge master set at discount. It took him 2 pickup loads to get it home.

I put in a student order for about $50 worth of SO tools. The order was cancelled when another student was reselling tools flagrantly! Something about crapping in the hands that feed you......
 

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Does anyone know if the reps that peddle the SEP program get paid commission for the tools that they sell?
 

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Does anyone know if the reps that peddle the SEP program get paid commission for the tools that they sell?

My rep acted VERY much like a salaried salesmen, aka doesn't give a rats behind. He was there full time monday through friday, all day except for long lunches.

He also did not want to give me the full industrial catalog or the pricelist that comes with it. I pressed, he caved.

He was mostly interested in only selling a select few starter and master kits listed on posters/flyers in his office.

As far as bargaining prices, I highly doubt that. When he punched part numbers in the computer, prices/invoices were generated, and that is what it is. No excess/stock on hand, everything was ordered via website. No investment on his behalf. No direct warranty exchanges since no tools on hand.

He didn't seem typically enthused about me paying in cash full (no revolving credit) he much preferred I set up a line of credit at associated interest rates.
 
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I am in the same boat. I talked to the rep and he was a little evasive about this. That tells me that it's his call. I'm not going to be there full time but I would be there for at least a few courses per term (6-8 units total).

Does anyone know if any of the "Classic" KRA series roll cabs are included in the SnapOn SEP Program? Are they about 50% off too? I have been planning on taking some evening classes in the fall from my local community college's auto tech program, but didn't think I'd qualify for Snap On's program because I wouldn't be going to school full time, and I'm only taking the classes as personal fulfillment and for the enjoyment. But according to some of the posts on this thread it may be worth my while to pursue the SEP program after all.
 

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if you go the SO route, don't forget that nothing looks like a SO tool than another SO tool...
and that helps 'em disappear more easily when everybody in the workplace has the same tools! :D

dare to be different young man, dare! :rocker:




:D
 

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Other tool companies offer student deals as well.

SO is great. So are Matco and Cornwell. I was a student once too and I took full advantage of the SO student rates. Unfortunately I liquidated most of it when I went into the military.
 

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The only scan tool that is part of the SEP program is the Equus, no others can be purchased under SEP. Also no shop equipment such as battery chargers, jacks, etc.

Well in the OP's case, he can order not through SEP, and still get a discount ;) Not as good, but still not retail price. If I visit some time Trucky, you should hook me up :D
 
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