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Capt Chrysler

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Was reading about the Tucker cars online a few days ago. One bit had some info on this other car of his. (That he was going to build)

I thought I saved a link to the site. But I guss I didn't.

Anyway here are a couple of photos (of drawings) I saved. Looks kinda KOOL!

Capt. Chrysler

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Tucker had some great ideas, this car would have fantastic.The movie about his first car was very good.
 
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we went camping at Stone Mountain in Georgia a few years back. they have a small car museum there and they had a tucker. only one i've ever seen, pretty cool car. here's a crappy pic.
 

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I remember watching a movie on the Tucker, he was WAY ahead of his time. its a shame he was pretty much forced out of business, I believe he could have made alot of great cars.
 

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There is a family in Tucker, Ga, the Cofers. They own the lumber yard in downtown Tucker. They have a very extensive antique auto collection and own a Tucker. After the movie came out, the owner would drive the car to work and park it out on Main Street in front of the business. Really nice looking car.
 

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interesting thing
tucker was doing pre sales in order to get some money rolling in
but, there was some deal where in order to make that legal
the customer had to actually get something for the money
they were handing over. so the dealership gave them Tucker luggage
or the radio and antenna that would be put in there car when it arrived.
a guy I know has the original radio and antenna in the original package

bob
 

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interesting thing
tucker was doing pre sales in order to get some money rolling in
but, there was some deal where in order to make that legal
the customer had to actually get something for the money
they were handing over. so the dealership gave them Tucker luggage
or the radio and antenna that would be put in there car when it arrived.
a guy I know has the original radio and antenna in the original package

bob

I've heard there are a LOT of Tucker radios out there. I've seen several over the years.
I'd LOVE one for a hot rod! Really screw with people's minds.

-Brad
 

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My father had a Tucker, bought it used, right after Tucker went belly up.
He bought it because he had always been a Science Fiction buff, and the car looked 'futuristic'.:)

He always laughed his a-- off when guys talked about 'the big companies put Tucker out of business because the car was so advanced'.
They were cool, innovative, and stylish.
They were not good cars.:(

Like the Delorean, the Bricklin, and about one hundred other odd ball but interesting car lines, they were cool, innovative, and either impractical or poor quality.

The build quality and overall quality of his Tucker was godawful.

My father really, really wanted the car to be good, but after a few years of it mostly sitting (never did have very many miles on it) he finally sold it for very little. No collector value at that time, as no movies had been made about it, yet, and frankly, when people looked at it, and drove in, (when it drove) they walked away.

Takes a LOT to get a line of cars reliable, well made and salable at a fair market price.

The Tucker is just one of hundreds of makers who could not hit any of the three points, despite some, in retrospect, cool ideas.


It is funny, the more years pass between people who actually drove the cars, as cars, vs. people who read books or watch movies about them, the better the car gets.
 

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The build quality and overall quality of his Tucker was godawful.

Takes a LOT to get a line of cars reliable, well made and salable at a fair market price.

The Tucker is just one of hundreds of makers who could not hit any of the three points, despite some, in retrospect, cool ideas.


That may well be, but I always heard that the existing cars were built by hand in a huge rush to keep the Feds off their backs for selling cars that didn't exist. That would explain the quality issues I would think.

The plan was always to do "proper" manufacturing once enough funding was in place.

Am I remembering this wrong or do others concur?
 

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tatra was building the same cars years before tucker..........google it........no i don't have one and never even seen one but i liked the tucker when i first heard about it and then got turned on to tatras..........at one time they were the world's fastest production car..............
 

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That may well be, but I always heard that the existing cars were built by hand in a huge rush to keep the Feds off their backs for selling cars that didn't exist. That would explain the quality issues I would think.

The plan was always to do "proper" manufacturing once enough funding was in place.

Am I remembering this wrong or do others concur?

Sorta right.
Many had different brand engines as those darn engine sellers wanted money, so they quit selling engines to him...

Feds were busting him for fraud, which he was engaged in...
He was selling products he didn't have.


He started on a shoestring, as no investor thought he had a good enough product or marketing plan to actually make money.
He didn't.
So he tried fraud, in hopes of pulling it off.
Strangely, the feds did not like that...


Oh, and adding, many other small manufacturers were covering the American landscape with small start ups. All died. None caught on. It takes a lot to make and sell a car for the masses.
It's all up hill.
Tucker wasn't as cool as many makers.




Decades later Delorean had the same problem.
Delorean was selling cocaine to finance his car, and the feds busted him in a famous sting operation.
People (who have never driven, worked on, or probably sat in a Delorean ) make the exact same claims.

Delorean cars sucked, pretty, but awful.
 
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There is one in the Bill Smith Collection, Speedway Motors Lincoln NE.

When they got it the center headlamp didn't turn. Seems the linkage was never tighten up.
 
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The Tucker was 40 years ahead of its time in many respects... I think of it as a 1986 Ford Taurus in 1948!

Even if the cars didn't actually drive as well as they look they are still cool. I read that for making the movie they had a hard time getting the cars to not smoke while being driven... needed to be well warmed up and even then they tended to put out a lot of blue smoke. Maybe that is to be expected when you take a Franklin helicopter engine and lay it down flat!

I belive the transmission came from the Cord 810/812. Tucker originally wanted to put the engine betwen the rear wheels with a torque converter for each wheel, but didn't have time to do the engineering, so he needed a transmission that would work with a rear engine layout. The only thing they could come up with was a transaxle from the 1936-37 "Coffin-Nose" Cords. Now these were pretty cool cars in their own right--front-wheel-drive V8 with a 4-speed pre-selector transmission. You select the next gear you want ahead of time, then when you press the clutch pedal a bunch of vacuum operated servos actually shifted the gears. Just don't select reverse while moving forward!

What I don't know is did Tucker get ahold of some NOS transmissions, or did they get them from junkyard Cords?
 

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The only things I can offer to this thread is that 1. I find them neat as hell, and 2. an account from my grandfather's twin brother's memoires. He was an early car collector throughout his life who lived from the early teens to late seventies. He owned several of the early Franklin automobiles, having lived near Syracuse his entire life, and wanted a Tucker because of the Franklin engine. His memoire also speaks very highly of the quality and engineering, but bemoans the rarity and high price of the few that he saw sold, even back in the 50's. He doesnt say much about the politics involved in its demise, but definitely lets us know that they were nice, and that he wanted one...badly. He listed his three favorite cars as 1. Pierce Arrow his father bought him new, 2. Franklin, 3. Tucker.
 

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I've actually seen three Tuckers and count myself lucky. Beautiful car, cool concept, forward-thinking ideas. Oh, and a great movie! What dreams are made of! We love legends and "what ifs" don't we! I do. ;^)
 

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we went camping at Stone Mountain in Georgia a few years back. they have a small car museum there and they had a tucker. only one i've ever seen, pretty cool car. here's a crappy pic.

I got to meet and come to know that man a little that had that that museum. I first met him back in the mid 80s. He would travel the country and buy up of 50s and before jukeboxes,amusement,etc. He would travel through and I worked at a amusement place fixing jukeboxes and games. I have been there at the museum and they redid old stuff there. One vacation we went there and he showed me around his shop the best I remember. He had some tucker radios and would have sold me one for about 50 to 100 bucks. I could kick myself for not getting one. The last I heard I think he passed away and his son was having a hard time keeping it going ,I think he closed it or was thinking about closing. I hope it is not closed that was a great place to spend a day just looking at the stuff. If no one has posted the site If you want to know more on them go to the http://www.tuckerclub.org/ site. I am a member there as well. A great site and quite a few tucker owners there. If its any info you want on them you will find it there.
 

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If you enjoy Northern California wine country, and Tuckers, you may want to check out Francis Ford Coppola's winery in Geyserville. He has a Tucker in the gift shop downstairs.

Not a bad place for a meal either, different items on the menu each day, and not ridiculous prices. You will need reservations if it is prime time.
http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/visit
 
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