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hi guys so today i started my workbench build i had some old ruff cut 70mm*70mm that were actually holding a fridge up off the ground but i decided to use them so i planed them up ,came up great by the way. i duno what i woud of done otherwise ,anyway heres some pics

here is one side of the bench its goin to be higher at one end kinda droping down to alow my drill press to sit under my clamp storage cabinate

and does anybody have any ideas on how to piece it together van i run large threaded screws throught them ..
like this but bigger

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Kevin54 said:
Lagbolts

By the way,
Where you been lately. I haven't seen you on here too much?
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iv been on here just not commenting much .some stuff i have hardley no clue about ,so i guess my 2c would not be very helpfull to some but i try,

but now im having a hard time building this bench my top a-frame one side of the bench will screw together but them how an i to add the supports goin acoss ways to give it length because if i use the bolts i can go through the same spot to sucure it there
 
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ZipSnipe said:
Well it would have been nice if you had done half lap joints like this http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...E4E1C45ADEE2D3E1881B174B2C9C623240295&first=0

but since you already made your cuts I would do like 1/2 inch round dowels like this http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...F040A82D3C439019B5AD5E6&first=271&FORM=IDFRIR

and since your at the leg stage I would do some searches online for some pics of benches to get ideas

Good luck, measure twice and cut once!!!
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thanks yeah i can still do some half lap joints but only on the legs so i can add the cross sections kinda hard to explain ..


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Ya know Sam theres a program called Google SketchUp http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/download/index.html

, its free and very easy to learn, I use it all the time for projects as you can draw it in SketchUp first and see how you want it to come together.

But the other good thing is you can import models into it and see how other people have designed stuff, very cool program.

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Maybe dowel your short stringers and half lap the long ones
 
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ya know sam theres a program called google sketchup http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/download/index.html

, its free and very easy to learn, i use it all the time for projects as you can draw it in sketchup first and see how you want it to come together.

But the other good thing is you can import models into it and see how other people have designed stuff, very cool program.

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maybe dowel your short stringers and half lap the long ones
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omg that exactly what i had in my head iv had a headache trying to figure it our thanks you heaps


cheers sam
 
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ZipSnipe said:
Thats great for furniture but for a workbench you need strength , cutting screws in at an angle would never give you the strength you get with dowels, half lap joints or lag screws.

By the way you could pocket the lag bolts like this

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I have made several workbenches this way and they are very strong. I have one 10 footer at my sons shop and they move 4 and 6 cylinder engine blocks around on them. My 5 footer at home has my bench grinder and 6" vise on it, and as many grown men as you could fit on it could jump up and down on it all day and I have no doubt it wouldn't budge.
 
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i have made several workbenches this way and they are very strong. I have one 10 footer at my sons shop and they move 4 and 6 cylinder engine blocks around on them. My 5 footer at home has my bench grinder and 6" vise on it, and as many grown men as you could fit on it could jump up and down on it all day and i have no doubt it wouldn't budge.
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thanks i was thinking about doING that using a spade bit so its just below flush with the wood thEn just filling it in with some sawdust mixed with wood glue
 
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sscustom said:
that would be a great idea but i dont think id be moving it or knocking it down arfter its been built
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I have moved 12 times so it's always in the back of my mind...lol :)

I also just noticed that you are in Australia so I guess the Woodcraft, Rockler option wont work either. The barrel and bench bolts work better than lag screws as you won't get the racking that can develop. You can always make the barrels out of solid bar stock by drilling and tapping the hole. I have done that a few times for some past benches I have made. You can increase the strength even more by using a floating tenon. This would allow you to have the strength of a mortise and tenon joint but use the wood you already cut.

Just some ideas... :)
 
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I'm not a fan of lag bolts. I'd consider a captured nut with threaded rod. Or, for those short lengths, run threaded rod all the way from one side to the other. If you have enough stock, a through mortise all wood joint is a very strong joint, very traditional and very nice looking. I have some 60 year old M/T benches still in use. Ok, so I'm a woodworker. I like using repurposed wood.

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onewaydave said:
I'm not a fan of lag bolts. I'd consider a captured nut with threaded rod. Or, for those short lengths, run threaded rod all the way from one side to the other. If you have enough stock, a through mortise all wood joint is a very strong joint, very traditional and very nice looking. I have some 60 year old M/T benches still in use. Ok, so I'm a woodworker. I like using repurposed wood.

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thanks dave for suggestions but i dont think ill have enought stock but ill make due



cheers sam
 
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:bounce: I've never seen anyone use wire ties to hold a wood project together while assembling. I mean it works and all, but I do understand the "working by yourself" improvising. Great creativity, I've used tie down straps and bungee cords before too.

The bench is coming along nicely.:beer:
 
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sscustom said:
thanks i was thinking about doING that using a spade bit so its just below flush with the wood thEn just filling it in with some sawdust mixed with wood glue
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Forstner bit would give a better finish, plus you can use the top edge of the cutter as a depth guage so they all come out the same ;)

I'd also add 2 or 3 cross braces between the top rails.. & also the bottom rails if you're going to put some plywood on there as a lower shelf.
 
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NUTTSGT said:
:bounce: I've never seen anyone use wire ties to hold a wood project together while assembling. I mean it works and all, but I do understand the "working by yourself" improvising. Great creativity, I've used tie down straps and bungee cords before too.

The bench is coming along nicely.:beer:
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thanks yeah i was by myself , i didnt have a clamp long enough so i used them worked well i have to use whats at hand

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Forstner bit would give a better finish, plus you can use the top edge of the cutter as a depth guage so they all come out the same ;)

I'd also add 2 or 3 cross braces between the top rails.. & also the bottom rails if you're going to put some plywood on there as a lower shelf.
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yeah i am goin to be using the of cuts i have four bit of 2#4s so i can use them
 
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Looking great Sam!!! And if ya want it to be really sturdy you can wrap 3 sides with plywood sheathing glued and screwed should make it really rigid. On mine I just capped the ends with plywood and it made a huge difference in rigidness!!!

Keep up the good work!!!!!!
 
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ZipSnipe said:
Looking great Sam!!! And if ya want it to be really sturdy you can wrap 3 sides with plywood sheathing glued and screwed should make it really rigid. On mine I just capped the ends with plywood and it made a huge difference in rigidness!!!

Keep up the good work!!!!!!
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thanks you ,you helped alot with your sketch hopefully it should be finished soon

thinking bout staining it or oiling it either one .thinking bout using some 1/2 mdf of ply for the bottom shelf still undecided bout the top
 
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You've inspired me to go out and build one now...I was looking at buying one, but making it seems so much more fun.
 
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GTVi said:
You've inspired me to go out and build one now...I was looking at buying one, but making it seems so much more fun.
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hi man yeah i was at bunnings picking up supplys for mine i walked past a workbench that they had there it was a kit bench but this was the display one it was made from like 3#3s small legs on it and same for the top was flimisy as hell but didnt have any leveling feet on it ,,and they wanted $299 rip off so far iv got $60bucks into mine
 
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Stuey said:
Looking good! What kind of a top is that?
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its from a kitchen remodel from out new kitchen the company sent up the wrong kind so we asked if we could have it they said yes i think is some sort of MDF medium density fiberboard with a coating of scratch resisant coat ontop ,someone who builds kitchens will no more.

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hi guys so i almost finished my bench but along the way to getting suplys i picked these u too
irwin knife got it for $8 reduced for some reason with a 3pck of blades
irwin philips bit, 3/4 counter sink bit and some cheap spade bits that i will hardly use but they are there if i need them OHH AND THE MDF



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The half lap joints are much stronger to use. If you lag bolt into the end grain of your post the grain will open up and not provide a secure connection. The work bench I built when I was 18 lasted 43 years with half lap joints.
 
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The half lap joints are much stronger to use. If you lag bolt into the end grain of your post the grain will open up and not provide a secure connection. The work bench I built when I was 18 lasted 43 years with half lap joints.
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yeah half lap joints are strong . im pleased with how mines turning out its actually realy solid
 
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