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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage

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Hey Jack how do you paint your cabinets? Are you spray painting them or just using a brush and roller?

I like the picture of your boy. That's a riot. I remember the first time I helped my father change the engine on his old Ford pickup. I was probably only 10.
 
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Thanks guys. (And thanks for the compliment, Milt and Dan.) I took everything in to the machine shop today. Now I've got to clean things back up and wait a while.

empeg9000, I rattle-canned the red toolboxes, but everything else is quick and dirty -- brushes and rollers and latex house paint. It gives the cabinets a surface texture you can see in this big picture of the phone. If I were a perfectionist, I'd approach it differently. But the nice thing about doing it this way is that if you hit it with a piece of steel or something, you can just grab a disposable brush and touch up the mark.

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And here's something kind of strange that relates to the car. A skateboard company in San Francisco did a limited run of skateboards with a graphic of my old 911 on it. I haven't seen one in person yet, but they sent a picture of the first one.

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Jack, I use an easy car lift on my 914, and have found hockey pucks work great for other cars. My Jetta IVs would backup on the lift, creep backwards if you will. The Pucks solved that problem, while not as cheap as wood, they also don't split, like wood does.

BTW, love the boards, you need to add one to the garage.
 

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Did you say your Brother came down to help with the engine? Man you guys look similar for just being friends. Anyway, glad to hear there's not a ton of damage in the engine. it's such a crazy design seeing all the individual cylinder heads, it's like a motorcycle!

Also i'm digging your new tools, i was just thinking how i'd like to move UP to some more craftsman screw drivers from my odd ball assortment. I guess not quite the same caliber as what you upgraded to, but when i use one as a pry bar and snap the tip off, it's only a quick drive to sears to get me a new one! :lol_hitti

Anyway, I just realized this is my first post on your thread, I've read through the entire thing before and I always check the updates, but for some reason never commented. Must have been too awestruck. :bowdown: So, I guess i'll finally compliment you on all of your ingenuity and hard work. You're garage is crazy awesome and truly deserves all of the praise it's received from the guys and gals on the GJ and the coverage it's gotten in multiple magazines. Great job man!

BTW, i know you said your a writer, what exactly do you write? TV Shows? Movies? Documentaries? Just curious, if you can't divulge because of contracts or whatever I understand.
 

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Jack, when my eyes first caught those skateboard decks, I thought they might be door sill plates! That would be a neat California kustom thing for a CA 911, perhaps? Maybe without a pic of the 911 on it. OTOH, it wouldn't be the "harsh and austere" we old timey German car coots usually revel in. (Well, maybe a dark mahogany...)

Knipex... I had the bug put in my ear years ago by a friend, but it didn't sink in. This board got me rolling on a Knipex fetish now. Ohhh, German metallurgy... German production facility... they haven't even set up shop in Eastern Europe, let alone Asia!

Hmmm.... a sassy robot hit man? Maybe something like C3P0, but slightly less gay, but still very polite and well-heeled, and then, when you least exepct it, he's bludgeoning people with a crowbar.

Or,

No Country for Old Robots.
 
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Thanks, guys. Tyson and I could be brothers, pretty much -- even if you don't count appearances. We're very similar -- except that I'd have to say that he's more generous with his time. But then, there's not much I can do to help him. Nobody needs help with writing stories. When it comes to the important stuff, he knows a lot more than me.

And Clutch93, I write for movies. Mostly rewriting other peoples' work. It's not as glamorous as some writing gigs, but it pays the bills.

I'm not sure where the skateboard will go. But it kind of feels like the car deserves to have it up somewhere. We'll have to see.

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The surprising thing about this picture (which was taken about 15 minutes ago) isn't that the place is a little messy. It's that every piece of the engine, intake, exhaust and all the related pieces are now out of the garage. The case, crank, pistons and cylinders are at the machine shop. But I found a place for everything else, somehow. I needed to, since I wanted to do some grinding and cutting without having to worry about metal dust getting to the insides of my engine parts. The aluminum piece I cut and ground down to shape is on the island bench in the picture. It used to hold the AC compressor in place, but since I don't run air conditioning any longer I took this opportunity to cut away some dead weight.
 
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It doesn't seem any different at all. I tried moving it on the lift surface, now that it's only about 1900 pounds -- no luck. I might dig up a strong piece of steel and check the new balancing point to see if it matches with the math I'd done previously.
 

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Ok, here is probably a dumb question, but I have no knowledge of lifts, except they go up, LOL :). How long is it safe to leave you car up there on the lift? I mean will the lift ever give a little and slowly start to come down or anything? Does it have safety devices on it to keep it from doing that? Probably stupid question, I was just wondering.
 
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Many (but not all) have stops that hold the platform in place and allow you to relieve the hydraulic pressure and have the lift rest on solid steel. With good hydraulics, you shouldn't see any slow loss of pressure. But a physical stop protects you from sudden hydraulic failure, which could mean the crash coming down on someone underneath it.

Mine is designed to hold a load with just hydraulics for long stretches of time. Still, I have a physical stop as well -- it prevents lowering once the lift is raised even if there are mutlple failures in the hydraulic system. My table is also designed for 30 minutes of non-stop lifting and lowering -- which you wouldn't typically see in automotive service use.
 
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Many (but not all) have stops that hold the platform in place and allow you to relieve the hydraulic pressure and have the lift rest on solid steel. With good hydraulics, you shouldn't see any slow loss of pressure. But a physical stop protects you from sudden hydraulic failure, which could mean the crash coming down on someone underneath it.

Mine is designed to hold a load with just hydraulics for long stretches of time. Still, I have a physical stop as well -- it prevents lowering once the lift is raised even if there are mutlple failures in the hydraulic system. My table is also designed for 30 minutes of non-stop lifting and lowering -- which you wouldn't typically see in automotive service use.

OK, thanks for explaining that. I just have NO expericence with them and I am very curious. Sounds like yours is very well designed then and safe!:thumbup:
 
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I believe mine is safe -- but I'm taking a bigger chance than most by re-purposing a tool originally designed for another type of work.

(And truth be told, EVERYONE thinks their lift is safe... right up until the moment it fails.)
 

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Here's a thing with me. As soon as I discovered this board, I liked it. But the one place I was a little iffy on, right from the beginning, was the tool section. It seemed that some of the guys in there were a little bit precious about their tools -- almost like exotic brands and tool truck products were a kind of fetish.

But with a lot of things, the reason it bugged me is probably because there's a little of it in me, too. Even though I have a lot of Harbor Freight in my garage, I definitely can not cast any first stones. And it got worse today, after the mail man delivered the last of a recent ebay buying streak on my part. Here's an illustration.

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This is my pegboard over my main bench. I keep the tools there that I tend to grab frequently. Early on, there were some Sears screwdrivers and Harbor Freight wrenches. Nothing fancy by any stretch.

Then I went and spent a little time on the tool area side of things. That led to some new screwdrivers (they were on sale!), and then some fancy-pants German wrenches (they're really cool!). I'm now thinking I don't even need adjustable wrenches up there because of these adjustable Knipex things.

So here's the same pegboard today:

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And here's the brands called out. I'm proud to say my no-class-at-all metric/SAE dogbone wrench is still up there. But the rest of the board has gotten a much more European flavor, now.

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I got most of the stuff pretty cheap, but that's still expensive by Harbor Freight standards. And the Mac wrenches are actually made in China, I'm pretty sure. But they definitely have a lot better fit and finish than the HF ones did.

I guess you could call it 'tool attitude creep' the way the tools up there have slowly been displaced with better ones.

But do all your tools have to be the fancy kind? (Or in my case, apparently, the fancy kind with red handles.) I've got to stop reading the threads over in the tool section that talk about the 'best' of any tool category. It gets expensive. :wtf:

Aren't those stubbies actually Wiha?
 

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Looking good Jack.

I have convinced myself that a scissor lift is more ideal for my size shop vs my current Twin post Weaver lift. I will be selling it to install a scissor lift (a larger one than yours since I work on my truck) in the same manner as you did.

...and congrats on the other new addition. :beer:
 
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Aren't those stubbies actually Wiha?

Whoops. Two syllables. German. I got it wrong. You're right; they're Wiha.

Looking good Jack. I have convinced myself that a scissor lift is more ideal for my size shop vs my current Twin post Weaver lift. I will be selling it to install a scissor lift (a larger one than yours since I work on my truck) in the same manner as you did.

...and congrats on the other new addition. :beer:

Well, there are some real advantages to a zero-footprint lift in a smaller garage. And some of the scissors-type ones go very high.

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And thank you for the congratulations. It's a little crazy. I have a six-week job that I just signed on to do in only two weeks' time which will start up in the next few days. I've got a baby's room to put together (I'm welding a bed, believe it or not), and an engine at the machine shop, two oil coolers I've got to pull and send out to be ultrasonically cleaned -- and four shocks/struts that also have to go out to be rebuilt. (They've been pulled, at least.)

It's going to be busy. The car might be sitting on the lift for a while. :sad: :dunno:

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EDIT: Looking back in the thread, I see now how you hang the lights! Silly me:bounce:

Jack are those lights hanging off your garage door? Hows it work? Optical illusion?

By the way, your garage is what my original inspiration was for starting to work on mine. Simply beautiful.

It's okay that I'm stealing some of your ideas, right? I mean, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery:D
 
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It's funny. I was looking at the thread on your garage, and I saw that you mentioned fold-down work benches, and my first thought 'this is like my garage had a kid, but the kid was a lot better looking than his dad.'

I guess if I was to try and nail it down all the way, I'd say yours is more 1950s, and mine might be early 1960s. But I'm glad to have provided some inspiration, and I've been really impressed with what you're making.

The lights that hang at the opening to the garage are suspended on arms that come out from the side walls. I welded them together, and I remember the trick of it was to measure how much the arm would deflect under the weight of the lamps and then build that angle into the arm and its base so that the end result would be horizontal. The lamps themselves are made from some aluminized steel cake-baking pans I found. I drilled holes and added some cheap lamp guts.

Here's a picture that shows how the arm comes out.

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And here's a fuzzy picture from when I was making the arms. It shows how long the one arm is.

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Just fantastic.

I love the creativity yours displays, like those cake baking pans.

I definitely think the retro inspiration started with your garage, and with the vintage of tools I started acquiring, the 50's theme seemed appropriate. I'm also a huge fan of the styling from the 30s-50s (think art deco and curvy chrome) as I think it is some of the most beautiful architecture, so one thing led to another:)

I agree, yours has a fresh, clean 60s feel. Although, I do think some of the designs are absolutely compatible with other eras with minor changes. Yep, I'm pretty sure I stole that folding table design from you (although mine might need to fold 'down' instead of up). I'm also going to steal that aluminum trim cabinet accent design if thats okay w/ you:beer:
 

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Just fantastic.

I love the creativity yours displays, like those cake baking pans.

I definitely think the retro inspiration started with your garage, and with the vintage of tools I started acquiring, the 50's theme seemed appropriate. I'm also a huge fan of the styling from the 30s-50s (think art deco and curvy chrome) as I think it is some of the most beautiful architecture, so one thing led to another:)

I agree, yours has a fresh, clean 60s feel. Although, I do think some of the designs are absolutely compatible with other eras with minor changes. Yep, I'm pretty sure I stole that folding table design from you (although mine might need to fold 'down' instead of up). I'm also going to steal that aluminum trim cabinet accent design if thats okay w/ you:beer:

Ya it is fun seeing on here what he designs and I am glad he doesn't patent his designs on us! I hope Jack Olsen doesn't mind that some of us might try to copy what he does:thumbup:
 
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I didn't think the Popular Mechanics thing was going to be out until July or August -- and they didn't tell me it was there. So thanks for the link -- and the heads up!

I don't think my small, low-budget garage merits words like 'ultimate' or 'extreme' at all. I'd like to think it's 'creative' and 'practical.' But I'm still flattered to be included.

Isn't Eric Hokenson's garage on GJ? The painting on the 'vault' looks familiar to me, but I can't remember the user name. I'm surprised they didn't use more garages from here. I wanted to get the web address in there -- if the same feature makes it into the print edition (they told me the August issue), maybe a reference to this site will show up.

Because if you want to talk 'ultimate' and 'extreme,' there are ones on this site that really fit the bill. In fact, there are a few Garage Journal shops that you could easily park all seven of the Popular Mechanics choices inside of, and still have room for a small fleet of cars. :)
 

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Because if you want to talk 'ultimate' and 'extreme,' there are ones on this site that really fit the bill. In fact, there are a few Garage Journal shops that you could easily park all seven of the Popular Mechanics choices inside of, and still have room for a small fleet of cars. :)

Jack, just like I tell my wife, " Since when does size matter?":lol_hitti
 
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I just learned something new by reading that article. I thought that you grew up welding and doing fabricating work! I can't believe you just learned how to weld and do a lot of other things. Man you learn things fast and get good at them soon!:beer:
 

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That's one of the other things that is great about your remodel, Jack. It isn't some huge, $50,000 frame up 'ultimate' garage build (no offense against those at all!:thumbup:). It's your everyday 2-car garage that accurately demonstrates to the fullest ability what is possible when you get creative and are willing to pick up some new skills. A lot of the high $$ builds are awesome but out of reach to some of us, including me. However, to see something this cool, this fresh (and at a budget that is more in reach to guys like me), in a garage most of us either have or have experience with, make it all attainable and not just something we'll have to dream about forever. It is the pinnacle of the DIY resourcefulness.

Thanks for being an inspiration to a lot of us!:beer:
 
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Thanks!

Red Leader, when yours is done it's safe to say it's going to get a lot of notice. You've got a very good eye, and you're making a shop that's going to be useful as well as retro and cool.

And you'll also have something that will inspire guys who aren't going to write huge checks for an enormous car hangar (not that I wouldn't have a very large shop if I had the mean to write those checks :) ).
 

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It's funny. I was looking at the thread on your garage, and I saw that you mentioned fold-down work benches, and my first thought 'this is like my garage had a kid, but the kid was a lot better looking than his dad.'

I guess if I was to try and nail it down all the way, I'd say yours is more 1950s, and mine might be early 1960s. But I'm glad to have provided some inspiration, and I've been really impressed with what you're making.

The lights that hang at the opening to the garage are suspended on arms that come out from the side walls. I welded them together, and I remember the trick of it was to measure how much the arm would deflect under the weight of the lamps and then build that angle into the arm and its base so that the end result would be horizontal. The lamps themselves are made from some aluminized steel cake-baking pans I found. I drilled holes and added some cheap lamp guts.

Here's a picture that shows how the arm comes out

Good God! Cake pans! I see plagarism coming on. You just kill me. You're great at imagineering! I only signed on here because of an article in Car Craft and now it's ruining my life. In a GOOD way.
 

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Thanks!

Red Leader, when yours is done it's safe to say it's going to get a lot of notice. You've got a very good eye, and you're making a shop that's going to be useful as well as retro and cool.

And you'll also have something that will inspire guys who aren't going to write huge checks for an enormous car hangar (not that I wouldn't have a very large shop if I had the mean to write those checks :) ).

I appreciate your very kind comments. I am, however, standing on the shoulders of giants, and for me its good to remember where a lot of that started. You've created quite a legacy!
 
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