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NJHandyGuy

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gentlemen i know this wonderul site is a support group for tool lovers. i am ready to give up on tools. Well not tools in general just mine. ifter hours of wrists hurting hundreds of bllod blisters scrapes and abrasions i swear i feel i am ready to sell every tool i own.

so what do you do when you feel this way????
 
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gte718p

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Yep I pay others to do my work. I only work on things that I want to work on.

If you want to sell, let me know :evil: i'm buying.
 
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earlthegoat2

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I just did a side by side comparison of 14mm Pittsburgh (old style), Craftsman, and Snap-On on a few severely tightened brass nuts. The Pittsburgh rounded the nut but still broke it free. The Craftsman and Snap-On performed perfectly and identically but the SO is longer and feels a bit better.
 
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scott37300

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jdv said:
If you're having a hard time, there is an easier tool out there, just have to buy it. :)
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This is my theory. If I canbuy new tools and do the job for the same price or cheaper than taking it to someone I will buy every specialty tool there is. Then the next time I have the right tools. Its amazing how nice things can go when you have the right tools. Just did a lower intake gasket for my grandma and spent a couple hundred in tools. Still way cheaper than a dealer and she was happy.
 
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crewchief888

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i hit something with a sledgehammer.

or just say f*ck it, i quit, then take a little walk and cool off

or customize a tree with my s-10


or drink a lot :lol_hitti


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jjjrmx5

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NJHandyGuy said:
yeah but i am pissed about vice grips there has to be a better way
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LOL.

Once you use a pair of Harbor Freight vice-grips, you realize that a big rock, a stick and duct tape is a better solution for fastener removal. :lol:

If Irwin's failed you, then u are using the wrong tool.

And BTW, don't get mad at tools. The gray matter between your ears is the real tool and your wallet merely an ends to a means, depending upon which fork you take as to DYI or farm it out.

"If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem" as they say.
 
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Camper

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Personally I would never sell my tools.
Whenever I feel like that I just walk away for a while but the tools are still there.
Eventually I get the itch and I am back in the garage cleaning things up.
But at least I don't have to replace them. I have a mix of tools from harbor freight to snap-on and certainly could not afford to buy new ones.....besides most of the tools I have are like old friends.

For me the garage is a retreat from the rest of the world when things get crazy....it also has turned into a neighborhood gathering spot which is cool.....:beer:
 
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ndoran

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I have been buying tools since I was twlve years old and I now have a collection that allows me to tackle man jobs. I have inherited tools from my father and grandfathers and everytime I use them they remind me of the times I spent with them as a boy when they taught me how to use tools an the skills required to do many jobs. through this i have enjoyed years of enjoyment and relaxation while building and repairing many things. Because of the time I have spent using tools it has helped me in my career as a professional design engineer because I know how to make and repair things.

Don't give up - take a walk and then come back. Also buy the best tool you can for a job - this does not always mean the most expensive. many jobs are certainly easier with the correct tool and it does avoid injuries
 
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bczygan

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NJHandyGuy said:
yeah but i am pissed about vice grips there has to be a better way
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Now Jay,
Between you, me and the fence post, you know that you have a low boiling point. Do you start a job with an attitude? I find that if I don't have the right zen mindset, that I can screw up a job and make it harder for myself than it needs to be. I get dangerous and sloppy and forget things and break things. The times you have hurt yourself were you in sync and working in the zone? Or were you distracted or angry or unhappy with the job? Here's a question for the pro mechanics out there. Do tools make the mechanic?
 
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wolflrv

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When it comes to rusty bolts..vice grips will only go so far...sometimes it's better to just lather on some PB Blaster for a day or two....go watch the game, mow the yard, take the wife to dinner...then come back and "worry" the stinkin' bolt loose. I just got through tearing down an old rusty motorcycle and patience is unfortunately your best friend. Take a break..have a beer...it will get better!
 
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My father's hands were constantly nicked up and ******. I made it a point to try and go another way. So my rule is: get gloves and always wear them. I like the Atlas ones that a re a knit glove coated with a layer of rubber.

Always wear them whenever you're working. Use the latex ones for finer work. I don't know why, but I get less nicks and bruises even when I'm wearing those thin ones.

Another good rule would be to never work on cars in a state that uses salt on its roads. But that's easier said than done.
 
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Jack Olsen said:
My father's hands were constantly nicked up and ******. I made it a point to try and go another way. So my rule is: get gloves and always wear them. I like the Atlas ones that a re a knit glove coated with a layer of rubber.

Always wear them whenever you're working. Use the latex ones for finer work. I don't know why, but I get less nicks and bruises even when I'm wearing those thin ones.

Another good rule would be to never work on cars in a state that uses salt on its roads. But that's easier said than done.
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This is what I live by also. If I CAN wear gloves working on something, I do. Almost no exceptions to that rule in my case unless it is more delicate. My hands are almost always scrape/cut free until I slip the gloves off and then BOOM I get a scrape/cut.:thumbup:
 
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pcpro15

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earlthegoat2 said:
A 4 pc set for 70 bucks.

I dont care what anybody says, including Snap-On, them aint no Snap On vise grips. LP series = low price. And quality.
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LP = Locking Pliers

They were on sale for fathers day (gift guide), which is now running until June 30th. Since you didn't even know SO vice grips existed... ill take your words in reference to quality as a grain of salt :lol_hitti
 
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garfunkle24 said:
They're re-badged Grip-ons, which are made in Spain. IMHO, they are much better than Vise-grips, particularly the ****** new Irwin ones.
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My point is made.

pcpro15 said:
LP = Locking Pliers

They were on sale for fathers day (gift guide), which is now running until June 30th. Since you didn't even know SO vice grips existed... ill take your words in reference to quality as a grain of salt :lol_hitti
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I did know these Grip On vise grips existed so your opinion is duly noted.

Also, you may find you need to brush up on your sarcasmese. It is the only other language I know.

Yep, I know, sarcasmese is not a word.
 
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AZ_Catskinner

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Vise Grips are a poor substitute for a cutting torch when dealing with stuck bolts. I just tore the teeth out of a nice set of Protos today before I got smart and put the blue flame wrench to work.
 
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Notwerk

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I wonder if griplocks might work better than vise grips.

Grip-On vice grips (Snap-on) are excellent. I love mine, btw.

Agreed on the gloves. I like to wear fingerless mechanics gloves over latex. Gives me plenty of knuckle/palm protection without sacrificing finger grip or dexterity. I always regret it when I get lazy and forego the gloves.
 
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AZ_Catskinner said:
Vise Grips are a poor substitute for a cutting torch when dealing with stuck bolts. I just tore the teeth out of a nice set of Protos today before I got smart and put the blue flame wrench to work.
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I find Visegrips to be a poor substitute for nearly everything. They are like the WD-40 of the tool world...ok for many things but not great for anything.

Coach
 
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MattT

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If you're using locking pliers on rounded fasteners it's no wonder you're pissed. Debating brands is pointless because they all **** if you need serious torque. Get you some small Ridgid pipe wrenches. They'll work.

Beyond that I take a smoke break when something starts to go wrong. Gives me time to chill out and think about the best way to tackle the problem. I've had a few really frustrating jobs where I spent more time smoking than I did working.
 
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Walk away, have a drink, some food, post a question, look at the manual, get a bigger hammer, try again.

Lots of the time when something seems impossible, I am doing it wrong.
 
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AZ_Catskinner said:
Vise Grips are a poor substitute for a cutting torch when dealing with stuck bolts. I just tore the teeth out of a nice set of Protos today before I got smart and put the blue flame wrench to work.
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This.

It's amazing what a little (or a lot of) heat will do for freeing rusty bolts. I used to be afraid of putting the torch to my stuff, and finally had a job where there was no other choice. Since then, I try to go to the torch before I break the bolt or otherwise screw it up. Don't have to cut the thing off with the blue wrench; often just a 30 second blastof heat will free things right up. Don't set your carpet or interior on fire though and don't walk away until you're sure all the fire's out and everything's cool.
 
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jeepfan93

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What's going on? Are you dismantaling and getting stuck? If you're scrapping get a torch. I've had my eye in the big kit over at Lowes. 9 times out of 10, My 15 year old Metrinch set will get the job done. I'm like 10 minutes away from you and got a lot of time if you need a hand with something
 
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