The VISES of Garage Journal

[ZRX61]

Looks like it...

 

[Kevin54]

Figured I would ask the experts, does this old reed have a swivel jaw on the rear?
http://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/2472629925.html

Looks like it...

Doesn't look like it to me. I magnified the pic and the jaw looks to be stationary.

 

[SweetD]

I think it does have the swivel, due to the large pin sticking out of the top of the stationary jaw.

Dave

 

[bgott]

If you look close you can see the line between the swivel and the body. Either way, that isn't a bad price for a big vise.

 

[autopts]

He probably took the number right off of the vise. The 406R is a swivel back according to the number. It could have so much rust on it that you can't notice the separation between the body and upper jaw.

 

[outlander800]

I went and looked at it. It is a swivel jaw, I didn't take it though. The swivel base was seized as was the jaw so it needed work and the swivel jaw is not something I want. Would be a nice one to restore if you were looking for that style vise.

 

[ZRX61]

I went and looked at it. It is a swivel jaw, I didn't take it though. The swivel base was seized as was the jaw so it needed work and the swivel jaw is not something I want. Would be a nice one to restore if you were looking for that style vise.

ARRGGGGHHH!!

 

[zekers59]

ARRGGGGHHH!!

Definitely a disturbance in the FORCE...... a painful cry it is.....yes.....

 

[zekers59]

Here is my Wilton 1765 vise mounted to Lista industrial workbench with a butcherblock top. I grin ear to ear everytime I use it.

Cort -

Nice bench -- nice VISE!! Lookin' great!

 

[Amitygravel]

Not mine. Might be able to get it though.
Not sure what the tapped holes are about.

 

[demographic]

I went and looked at it. It is a swivel jaw, I didn't take it though. The swivel base was seized as was the jaw so it needed work and the swivel jaw is not something I want. Would be a nice one to restore if you were looking for that style vise.

You know those little things that you regret for years to come?

This is one of those things.

 

[ksd]

Picked up this Wilton shop king vise today for $10.00 thought it looked cool. I had not seen one before. Looks like it's missing the pipe vise jaws and the binder for the swivel base. Might look nice in a hammered green or bronze!

 

[mngundog]

Not my vise, but I liked the idea.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=121632&stc=1&d=1309663976

 

[Gary Indiana]

Picked up this Wilton shop king vise today

Lovely vise in great shape. I painted mine hammered gold.

 

[DocsMachine]

Finally took a few minutes to clean up that $99 Wilton I picked up a few months back.

Typical "rebuild"- just a trip through the parts washer, some rattlecan primer and "dark machine grey", and a fine Scotchbrite wheel for the bare parts.

Forgot about the 5-year guarantee in the other post, though:

So this badboy was actually made sometime in 1958, unless I miss my guess. It's in pretty damn good shape for fifty-three years old. Hell the handle still has it's rubber snubbers.

Doc.

 

[autopts]

Finally took a few minutes to clean up that $99 Wilton I picked up a few months back.

Typical "rebuild"- just a trip through the parts washer, some rattlecan primer and "dark machine grey", and a fine Scotchbrite wheel for the bare parts.

Forgot about the 5-year guarantee in the other post, though:

So this badboy was actually made sometime in 1958, unless I miss my guess. It's in pretty damn good shape for fifty-three years old. Hell the handle still has it's rubber snubbers.

Doc.

I have a 9400 Wilton with a "Guar Exp 12-31-61" It says Schiller Pk on the side, but if I back up the date 5 years, that would make it a 1956 and Wilton was not in Schiller Pk in 1956. They were still stamping Chicago. I think Wilton stocked these vises unboxed and stamped the date when they sold sold them. If their vise stock sat already stamped, the warranty clock would be running. Thats at least my take on it, may not be right though.
Is that a griinder you have next to that beauty?

 

[whelenfan]

very nice job on that wilton! that looks as if it just rolled out of the factory!

 

[SWT Racing]

I have a crappy chinese Bessey brand vise at the moment. It's not much to show off, but I made a set of soft jaws for it today.

They're not as nice as machined jaws, but will do in a pinch. I've been making jaws like these for years and they always come in handy. I generally use 1" Aluminum angle and glue a strip of magnetic tape onto each of the sections. It's dirt cheap and works very well. I started doing this to use my standard vise as a connecting rod vise for building engines.

 

[DocsMachine]

I have a 9400 Wilton with a "Guar Exp 12-31-61" It says Schiller Pk on the side, but if I back up the date 5 years, that would make it a 1956 and Wilton was not in Schiller Pk in 1956.

-Okay, so what's the timeline? I recall reading the "five year" thing in another thread a while back, but I don't know if I've ever seen any kind of detailed timeline of Wilton as a business. This one also says "Schiller Pk" on the side.

Is that a griinder you have next to that beauty?

-Sort of, it's a die filer. Like a scroll saw except it holds a small file. I use it like a small and precise belt sander, though I can also fit round, oval and triangular files too.

Doc.

 

[nnoble83]

never posted in this thread yet but here is my growing collection. One is an Athol from i think 1904 that i paid $30 for with the butcher block top, the other is a Prentiss I got yesterday for $75 with a bunch of other stuff (i cannot get the pin for the sliding jaw out), the last is a small Littlestown i paid $15 for.

 

[Brad54]

Damn this thread...
I started with a nice 4-inch Columbia that I gave a quicky clean-up and resto last year, replacing the Chinese vise I got from Sam's Club 10 years ago. Sold the Chinese vise for $50 I paid for it, and made $10 on the deal since the Columbia was only $40.

Then I found a huge Reed for $40, that I'll be putting on my welding table. It's perfect.

So last night I'm surfing Craigslist, and spot a Studebaker Hydraulic Vise. The guy was asking $100, and it looked about a thousand times better than the one that sold in Atlanta last year for $250.
I just brought it home for $80.

The guy was recently retired, and his father bought it out of a machine shop when he was little. His dad restored it/replaced the seals, and used it since. This guy used it until about 10 years ago, when he drained the fluid, plugged and capped the hydraulic ports and put it on his shelf.

I haven't found much online about it... unknown if it's related to the car company or not. I DID find a scan of an industrial tool company saying the vise could be mounted on a bench top, vertically on a post, etc.
I think I'm going to keep it and mount it under my welding table's top, perpendicular to the top, so I can clamp things off the side of the table, and clamp them upright, rather than side-to-side like a regular vise.

Jaws are in excellent shape, and are removable, and smooth--non-serrated. 5-inches wide, throat is 8 inches deep.
Three pedals: I THINK they're fast close, slow close and release.

I didn't need it, but damn... it is kinda cool!
I'd appreciate ANY info anyone can give me on Studebaker Machine Co in general, and these vises in particular.

 

[DocsMachine]

I haven't found much online about it... unknown if it's related to the car company or not.

-I think not. Studebaker, the car company, started out making, I'm not kidding, Conestoga style wagons in the mid 1800s, and by the turn of the century, were making both gas and electric cars under the name "Studebaker Automobile Company". They were also based in South Bend Indiana since pretty much day one, not Illinois as your vise says.

There were five guys that founded Studebaker, though, and over the years some left the company, others got married and had kids, etc, so it's entirely possible that the Stude who made your vise was related to the car guys.

Doc.

 

[ZRX61]

-I think not. Studebaker, the car company, started out making, I'm not kidding, Conestoga style wagons in the mid 1800s,
Doc.

I think the first things they made were wheelbarrows

 

[autopts]

-Okay, so what's the timeline? I recall reading the "five year" thing in another thread a while back, but I don't know if I've ever seen any kind of detailed timeline of Wilton as a business. This one also says "Schiller Pk" on the side.
Doc.

Wilton moved to their Schiller Pk. facility there in 1957, Rizzo Hardware moved into that building once Wilton move out to Elgin. I'm guessing once WMH bought them out in the 90's.

 

[Kevin54]

-I think not. Studebaker, the car company, started out making, I'm not kidding, Conestoga style wagons in the mid 1800s, and by the turn of the century, were making both gas and electric cars under the name "Studebaker Automobile Company". They were also based in South Bend Indiana since pretty much day one, not Illinois as your vise says.

There were five guys that founded Studebaker, though, and over the years some left the company, others got married and had kids, etc, so it's entirely possible that the Stude who made your vise was related to the car guys.

Doc.

Not a thing about Conestoga wagons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker Just farm, mining, and military wagons

 

[Catalyze]

nnoble83 - that Athol is the first that I have seen that was repaired, I always think of them as indestructable things.... your Prentiss is another one that I have never seen, 504 as a model number must have been a later vise, usually the swivel jaws that I have seen are the double digit ones like 19-22-23 plus the swivel base is the later style that has a "clamp ring" to lock it down like the last Bulldogs had, even the Prentiss emblem is like the later Bulldong embossings....more photos when you get a chance if you would be so kind.
Craig

 

[Catalyze]

Brad - way cool hydraulic vise! Nothing like juice to provide a squeeze.
Craig

 

[nnoble83]

nnoble83 - that Athol is the first that I have seen that was repaired, I always think of them as indestructable things.... your Prentiss is another one that I have never seen, 504 as a model number must have been a later vise, usually the swivel jaws that I have seen are the double digit ones like 19-22-23 plus the swivel base is the later style that has a "clamp ring" to lock it down like the last Bulldogs had, even the Prentiss emblem is like the later Bulldong embossings....more photos when you get a chance if you would be so kind.
Craig

here is a separate thread i had created on it

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108083

i have been referencing some of your previous threads about removing that damn swivel pin. i have since spun the head off and am now going to thread it and get a slide hammer on it. after which i will be making a new pin.

 

[Brad54]

...the other is a Prentiss I got yesterday for $75 with a bunch of other stuff (i cannot get the pin for the sliding jaw out),

I think this is the patent application for the jaw on your Prentis.

http://www.google.ru/patents?id=GmZ...=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

-Brad

 

[DocsMachine]

Not a thing about Conestoga wagons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker Just farm, mining, and military wagons

-Note I said Conestoga style wagons.

I suppose i should have simply said "horse drawn" wagon, but Conestoga was the first word that came to mind.

Doc.

 

[JMann2380]

Very cool thread. I just picked up a Ridgid make in Elyria Ohio, model # 60FSN. Paid $150 which is more than most, but this thing is in pretty good shape and I needed a vise for the shop. Can't wait to take it apart and clean her up.

Does anyone know the original color these came?

-Josh

 

[outlander800]

That rigid vise is a columbian re-brand. I would of paid 150 for that all day long, certainly cant replace it for that.

 

[Catalyze]

Jmann - aye mate....that's a vise!
No worries about that one, nice shape, not wailed on....good purchase.
It will still hold my urn long after I am gone.
Craig

 

[autopts]

Very cool thread. I just picked up a Ridgid make in Elyria Ohio, model # 60FSN. Paid $150 which is more than most, but this thing is in pretty good shape and I needed a vise for the shop. Can't wait to take it apart and clean her up.

Does anyone know the original color these came?

-Josh

What intreges me is that other Wilton rebrand. is there a name or C.O.O on it?

 

[JMann2380]

What intreges me is that other Wilton rebrand. is there a name or C.O.O on it?

It's actually a 20 year old Taiwan vise. I'll look tomorrow for a brand.

 

[Catalyze]

autopts has radar for Wiltons! He won't try to find Waldo....couldn't care less where in the world Carmen SanDiego is located. He wants to know about Wiltons! Next year, I am going to go up there and grab him. Then we are going to take a tour of the Wilton plant. I am getting him some Wilton socks, pajamas, and a T-shirt that says "I went to the Wilton factory and got this lousy shirt."
Craig

 

[honcho]

bought this Sheffield England manufactured NOS Record No. 5 and the accompanying swivel base recently from a a company called OnFair They have/had a bunch of made in England Irwin items. I bought the vise from their website and the swivel base from them via Ebay. The white spots in the picture are packing peanuts.

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[Nightshift]

autopts has radar for Wiltons! He won't try to find Waldo....couldn't care less where in the world Carmen SanDiego is located. He wants to know about Wiltons! Next year, I am going to go up there and grab him. Then we are going to take a tour of the Wilton plant. I am getting him some Wilton socks, pajamas, and a T-shirt that says "I went to the Wilton factory and got this lousy shirt."
Craig

LMAO @ Craig ... Nicky will love his new shirt! Be sure to post a pic with him in it Bill

 

[rsieracki]

Very cool thread. I just picked up a Ridgid make in Elyria Ohio, model # 60FSN. Paid $150 which is more than most, but this thing is in pretty good shape and I needed a vise for the shop. Can't wait to take it apart and clean her up.

Does anyone know the original color these came?

-Josh

not sure on original colors... but home depot orange for the "ridgid" in the back would be a nice ironic color.

autopts has radar for Wiltons! He won't try to find Waldo....couldn't care less where in the world Carmen SanDiego is located. He wants to know about Wiltons! Next year, I am going to go up there and grab him. Then we are going to take a tour of the Wilton plant. I am getting him some Wilton socks, pajamas, and a T-shirt that says "I went to the Wilton factory and got this lousy shirt."
Craig

not sure where the current wilton factory is but if you go by the old one in schiller park, swing by and pick me up, im right down the street

... then we can stop as the hostess plant a block away and have a fresh twinkee... there is town also

 

[jsokoly]

I'm bummed. I left work early today to go get a nice looking Parker vise, I think it was a 954--but missed it by 20 minutes. It was a CL deal in Denton, Tx. I'm hoping someone on here got it because it looked like it was on good shape and a decent price. As a consolation prize, I got a 1969 Bulova roto-vise. It's more of a jeweler's or hobby vise. I also go about a hundred pounds of new nuts, bolts, and assorted hardware. A lot of it is stainless steel. All for $20. I still wish I had gotten the Parker....

Jeff