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My car is too low to drive over a mid-rise lift and I'm not interested in driving up on a pair of 2 x 12 wood ramps, so I plan on recessing the lift into the garage floor.

I plan on at least a 6" reinforced concrete base that will be 5.5 inches below the garage floor (4 3/4" height of mid-rise lift + 3/4" plywood sheet to close off the opening when not in use.

Has anyone formed/poured their own concrete?

If so, can you provide some details, links to web sites, etc?
 
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search on mid-rise lifts on here and on google and you will find a lot of good information. plenty of people on here have done that and done it themselves, seems to be not too difficult either. i am in the process of doing this as well myself so i have been researching this for a month or so now in preperation so i have found a lot of good info on this. i too have the same issue with my car being to low and refuse to use plywood all the time
 

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My lift wouldn't work for you, probably. But I dug the hole for mine and mixed the concrete all by myself and all without any previous experience -- so the pictures in this little video might be helpful.



I used an inexpensive hammer drill to tie the new pad into the old one with rebar. This drawing is goofy, but it shows the basic pattern I used for the concrete. I needed to have the top of the new section 8" down, and I poured 8" below that, and also a six-inch-thick 'wall' along the perimeter.

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Lots of good info in this thread, too.
 
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Nice video!

I just have a tough time seeing how I can pour this in one shot. I keep on thinking that as I fill the edges, the concrete will just flow down and under the form and fill the center section.

I can easily do it in two steps, but not mixing my own concrete, that can get pricey having the truck come twice.

What kind of concrete did you use? Standard here is 3000 psi. What I'd like is that super smooth, very hard/dense concrete they use in machine shops for example.
 

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I need to visit more often...had no idea you were doing a lift. Looks amazing like all your other projects Jack!
 

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I just have a tough time seeing how I can pour this in one shot. I keep on thinking that as I fill the edges, the concrete will just flow down and under the form and fill the center section.

I can easily do it in two steps, but not mixing my own concrete, that can get pricey having the truck come twice.

What kind of concrete did you use? Standard here is 3000 psi. What I'd like is that super smooth, very hard/dense concrete they use in machine shops for example.
I asked the same question, since I'd never done it before. Someone pointed out to me that homeowners pour steps all the time. The stuff starts to set right away. I was mixing two bags at a time in the mixer and then dumping it in. I did the lower part first, and then filled in the higher section. It didn't 'flow' at all.

I used Quikrete from Home Depot. I think it was the 4000 psi version, but there's some danger in comparing home-mixed ratings to readi-mixed. The ultimate strength has a lot to do with the mixing and curing conditions. The smoothness of the top surface has to do with how the concrete is troweled and finished and also how it's allowed to cure. Maybe aeration plays a factor in that, too -- how the bubbles are vibrated out. There are also epoxy-type concrete mixes with less aggregate in them.

I'm no expert, though. Hopefully some of the real concrete guys on the forum will sound in.

I need to visit more often...had no idea you were doing a lift. Looks amazing like all your other projects Jack!
Thanks. I'm pretty sure it's the last big garage project for me. (Famous last words, I know. :) )

I really LOVE having the lift. My car's been up on it basically from day one -- engine rebuild, suspension refresh. It is a world apart from jackstands.

This picture was taken right before things started to get really messy.

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For me, it was a pretty simple decision. My concrete slab had been poured in 1925 and had shifted considerably since then. There had been a front section added on in the 1960s which had sunk about an inch and a half. There was no vapor barrier, so epoxy would never work.

Plus, I have a 911. So there was no doubt there would be some oil (either from the engine or the transaxle) coming down. So I got a couple of bags of vinyl concrete and did as much as I could do to level the pad. You can see it here.

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Even so, it has undulations across the width of it. But the tile is very easy to clean up (it doesn't absorb liquids like concrete does), and it's been fine with dropped tools, floor jacks and everything else I've thrown at it. It was also inexpensive. The tile itself was .59/sf. The total cost of the job was about $350 and took me about three days.
 
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Plus, I have a 911. So there was no doubt there would be some oil (either from the engine or the transaxle) coming down.

Not if you replace the seals. Except for my cam chain covers which are the only seals I haven't replaced (too hard to do with the engine in), my engine is bone dry.
 

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Well, I'm getting a whole new set of seals and gaskets right now. And my old motor stayed bone dry for about five years. But I pretty much only track the car now, and that kind of driving produces more of the heat and expansion/contraction related issues with these engines. Sooner or later, I'm going to see a little drip down there. I'm okay with that.

And since it's your own thread (so I'm not really hijacking), how about some details on the yellow 911?
 
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And since it's your own thread (so I'm not really hijacking), how about some details on the yellow 911?

The 911 is a car I've always wanted since I was about ten when one of the gas companies back in the late 60s was giving a Targa away.

I never saw the point to owning one with the turtle speed limits we have on our highways.

Then in 2009, an idiot on a cell phone drove his car into the back of my stopped-in-traffic motorcycle and rammed me into the car ahead sending me to the hospital for a while. I figured life can be short, so I bought my 1995 993C2.

Its in great condition and completely original.
 

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Jack,
For the grout between the tiles, how do you keep that from absorbing oil?

-Brad
 
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