Shed project - thanks Garage Journal

[ctandc]

I've been a longtime lurker. When I finally bought a house with a garage, I used ideas from here to get it more functional. That was almost five years ago. And since I coach travel baseball (which including off season training has me running 9 months or so out of the year) my "spare time" has been in short supply.

I recently sold my motorcycle (don't worry I'll be buying another one this Fall / Winter when prices drop...) and I've neglected my garage.

Finally I'm realizing I NEED A shed to get my lawn equipment and other **** out of my garage. Conveniently the PO of the house had a 11'x11' concrete pad poured. It was oddly enough used to house a dog. Don't ask, I don't know the full details, and after hearing the neighbors tell me some stories about the PO, I don't want to know the full details.

So I'll be stick building a shed. I'm going 10x10 to use on my existing 11x11 pad.

Then after that shed, it'll be a deck for the wife...then I can focus on the garage. See I figure she'll be so distracted by having the deck, finally, she'll ignore me hitting up the garage.

If it has gas or oil in it, I can fix it. If it has electricity running through it, I can probably handle it. If it GROWS out of the ground, I can kill it by looking at it....so wood working isn't my forte, but I can measure, measure again and use a saw and hammer...LOL.

I'm pricing out material now. This will be a standard shed, nothing fancy.

What had some other members used for 'siding' on their shed? I'm sure the wife would be VERY pleased it the shed at least resembled the exterior appearance of the house (yellow vinyl siding) so I'm considering either T1-11 and prime / paint it, or maybe regular old OSB and vinyl siding.

Pros? Cons? Cost comparison?

I'm sure I'll also have some questions as I need to run electricity to the shed from my breaker box (not that far) just for lights and a couple of outlets. (mainly for the battery tender for the riding mower). This shed will truly be just for storage.

Although the idea of mounting my air compressor out there and running air lines to the garage would be nice...LOL.

Oh, and I'm sure it's pretty standard operating procedure, but I'll be blaming this forum for all the expense and work in the future.

Thanks!

 

[vtx531]

What had some other members used for 'siding' on their shed? I'm sure the wife would be VERY pleased it the shed at least resembled the exterior appearance of the house (yellow vinyl siding) so I'm considering either T1-11 and prime / paint it, or maybe regular old OSB and vinyl siding.

Pros? Cons? Cost comparison?

I'm doing vinyl siding on my 8x8 shed. http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111971

7/16 osb is only $7 a sheet, the vinyl siding was $100 I think, and the trim probably another $80.

The T1-11 stuff was $30 each so that would have been $200+ then you gotta buy paint.

Maintenance free, looks great, matches the house. It was very easy and fast to install. I really like it.

Oh, also if your pad is 11x11 then I would make the shed 11x11 - gives you more space and you won't get water collecting on the pad at the perimeter. Don't worry about materials waste. You will have a bunch of waste anyways unless you do a bunch of clone sheds and get it figured out by the 10th one how not to waste materials. Not expensive anyways the osb is cheap. 2x4s are cheap.

 

[Jack Olsen]

I used T1-11 for the siding and the doors. I used OSB for the interior.

 

[rogsmart]

If your house is vinyl siding I would go with that. Make sure you get your details are right on trim, etc. so that the siding works the way it should. There usually are pretty good manufacturer's installation instructions for this stuff.
Oh and one more thing, if you're gonna blame us for cost overruns, scope creep, etc. you'll have to post lots of pictures before, during, and after, otherwise we're not taking any of the blame.

@ Jack Olson. I still start to drool every time you post a picture of that shed even after all this time. (Sort of a Pavlovian reaction I guess.)

 

[ctandc]

I was out of town this weekend, and finally got some good news. The pad I remembered as being 11x11 is actually 13x13. So much for my memory.

So now I'll be shooting for a 12x12 shed.

Still haven't decided on what to use for siding. Leaning towards vinyl at this point. I'll do a cost comparison after I'm done with the plans.

Works well for me too, since my county only requires a permit for 200 sq/ft or above.

 

[graffix000]

I was out of town this weekend, and finally got some good news. The pad I remembered as being 11x11 is actually 13x13. So much for my memory.

So now I'll be shooting for a 12x12 shed.

Still haven't decided on what to use for siding. Leaning towards vinyl at this point. I'll do a cost comparison after I'm done with the plans.

Works well for me too, since my county only requires a permit for 200 sq/ft or above.

as mentioned above, you should fill the pad so you won't have water build up on the pad.

good luck with the build. If you search around on here, I remember seeing plans on building a shed. Showed how to do everything.

 

[dirttracker18]

If you don't want to fill the pad you could leave a small pad out front, say 2 feet for an entrance. Use the full extent of the pad for the width (ie 13 feet)

Otherwise use up the pad, no need to leave a little piece sticking out around it. it will look strange and possibly cause water to pool or worse run under the shed. Be sure to use a membrane under the plate to keep it from wicking water up and rotting out.

 

[ctandc]

Well the plan is the build it 12x12. I will move it all the way back on the pad, so the overhand is for the entrance. I will make a concrete ramp in front that will blend with the existing pad.

The roof will overhang enough on the sides to keep water off the 6" or so of pad that won't be built on.

I plan on using tar or another weather proof material + treated base plates and probably liquid nails to boot.

 

[KEH]

If it was me I would run a course of concrete block around the pad, leaving the block out for the entrance(s), to keep the plate out of the moisture. Two courses would be even better since that should make it hugh enough so rain won't spatter up on the walls. I would still use treated lumber for the plate and door facings.

KEH

 

[70redbee]

In my opinion, if you don't build the shed the size of the pad, you will get water inside the shed on the slab. After you are disapointed with all the leaks, you will be back here asking how to keep the water out or how to waterproof it. No matter how you try to seal it, the shed is going to leak and then start to rot. I have been building for 40yrs. and know a thing or two about leaks and how to properly build, be it a shed or million dollar home. Please take the advise of the people here and do it right the first time.

 

[turbo6justin]

One more vote for listening to the board. Build the shed the size of the pad. If you want an apron in front of the doors I would pour that separately and sloped away. Even with only 6" sticking out it will get wet. Rain rarly falls straight down. Not sure of your location but snow will definitly be a problem if you have to deal with that. I built my shed for the same reasons you did earlier this year it is a fun little project.

As an added bonus if you go 13 x 13 vs 12 x 12 it will give you an additional 25 sq ft of floor space which I guaranty you will use.