Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT 1950s Craftsman Garage retro remodel

[rickairmedic]

Very nice Dave . Now you need one of those great bakelite covers for it with some type of " old looking " pushbutton in it .


Rick

 

[Red Leader]

BTW, your hit list doesn't mention the flooring. Doesn't that epoxy flooring have a shelf life???

The Epoxy-Coat contest ended and it looks like they will announce a winner either Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm excited!! It will be a really cool think for the garage if it happened, but if not that's okay too, just glad to be a part of something like that and contribute.

If I don't win, I might go back to my idea of the wood/garage-deck floor. I don't have $500 to lay down on a floor system all at once, so I'd have to pick a system to work on bit by bit, and the wood floor/composite floor sounds like the most fun

Also, thanks for asking about the Mrs and the kiddo. Both are doing great! He's a little fussy now and then (to be expected) but he totally rocks and my wife is a complete angel. I'm a very blessed man

 

[Red Leader]

Very nice Dave . Now you need one of those great bakelite covers for it with some type of " old looking " pushbutton in it .


Rick

Rick,

wow, funny you should say that. The cover that I was working on actually was one of the bakelite covers, with a metal push button in the center!

However, I have an idea cooking in my head that I think will do it all a little bit more justice.

I can throw up some pictures of the bakelite cover to see what everyone thinks, though. To me, after making it, it looked a little plain and the brown looked a little off, considering the black, industrial look of the box.

Thanks for your comments though!

 

[rickairmedic]

Dave you know we are picture whores . Feel free to toss up some pics or surprise us with it when its done . I am pretty sure after watching you do what you have done sofar I am sure it will turn out great.

Rick

 

[98TJ]

I was thinking today of cover plates. I was actually in process of making one, but I came up with an idea that is going to be a little more fun. I guarantee you'll like it.

I might try and hammer it out this weekend. IF (and that is a big if) I have time to do it.

I have a trim piece for a radio ('38 General Electric) that's sitting in silicone rubber right now. Waiting for the silicone to cure. Should be able to start casting parts tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure a cool switch cover could be made from what I'm casting.

 

[Red Leader]

98TJ,

Feel free to throw up some pics, I'd love to see what your doing!

-Dave

 

[98TJ]

I'll be sure to put'm up when I get to cast the first pieces. Should be late tomorrow or Wednesday.

 

[Wingnut65]

Nice work, Dave. I know if feels good to check the lights off the list.

The door opener switch is a neat addition. That flex conduit has the industrial look. Glad you hit it with black. I am blank on cover plate ideas other than the bakelite, although 'black' may fit in better. Not sure what a vintage switch looks like that would be any better than what you and 98TJ are working on now.

 

[shopnut]

I have to apologize to all my subscribers for having such lame updates. I can't imagine the letdown when they get a notification that there are new posts here, just to find out the content is, well, zero haha.

I was JUST about to unsubscribe due to a total lack of thread content, and then this gets posted ...

Official Update!!!

Whew - saved in the nick of time!

 

[tinbender 66]

Jack, looks great! Thanks! At this point, all options are on the table.

I dunno if its a way of saying thanks, but I voted for your garage today

Hoping you win!!!

Great idea on the box for the gd switches. I'll be covering the wall and the posts around my gd's soon and didn't have an idea of what to do with those pedestrian switches. Now I do. I'll make it different enough that I can claim it as my own idea. Thanks for the inspiration!

One benefit of being short on time and/or $ is that you (we) have time for a lot of imagineering.

 

[rickairmedic]

Dave I could try to turn you something on my little lathe to mount into the bakelite cover that would push against the original button inside the box . I have some extra brass and I think even a little stainless laying around that could be turned into a pushbutton .


Rick

 

[shopnut]

Dave I could try to turn you something on my little lathe to mount into the bakelite cover that would push against the original button inside the box

Along these same lines - back the cover screws out about a 1/4" and add some springs (or foam) between the box and cover so the entire cover becomes your push button. Just mount a block of wood to the back side of the cover to act as a spacer pushing the original button inside.

I used this trick before to create a stealth switch.

(Of course, you may have to explain where the door button is to your guests )

 

[rickairmedic]

Shopnut now you have the wheels in my little head turning . I am thinking using a bakelite light switch cover with a special made part that looks like a regular light switch from the outside but has a sort of cam on the backside . Flip the switch on and the cam preses against the inside switch and opens the door . Flip the switch off and again the cam triggers the switch and the door closes . I may have to play with this idea a little .


Rick

 

[schwalby]

What about one of these, you get them as a momentary switch. Comes in a bunch of color options. Rick could make a fancy cover / enclosure for it.

Jim the owner of OTRATTW is a great guy and would help make sure you wire it properly.

 

[flybefree]

Dave,

Good work on the door opener...but really I am dying to know if you won the contest.

I tried to read your whole story, honest, but it was SO LONG! I mean, it wasn't my cup of tea, but by golly it was content!

I am using the quick reply post thingy so I could not add all the "I'm offering this in the spirit of ironic good humor not in the typical internet forum A**holeishness that it might come across as because I did not use emoticons" smiley faces. Just imagine that I sprinkled a few throughout this post.

Shaun

 

[tinbender 66]

Just curious, would doorbell buttons work for these. After all, they're wired with "bell" wire.

 

[rickairmedic]

ya know tinbender while trying to reinvent the wheel you bring up a good point . Yes a door opener switch is a doorbell switch and a nice looking round one that could be retrofited into the front of a bakelite switch cover should be a breeze.


Rick

 

[couchmechanic]

You might try a boat shop? Have seen some cool looking rubber covered switches both pushbutton and toggle.

 

[Red Leader]

Dave,

Good work on the door opener...but really I am dying to know if you won the contest.

I tried to read your whole story, honest, but it was SO LONG! I mean, it wasn't my cup of tea, but by golly it was content!

I am using the quick reply post thingy so I could not add all the "I'm offering this in the spirit of ironic good humor not in the typical internet forum A**holeishness that it might come across as because I did not use emoticons" smiley faces. Just imagine that I sprinkled a few throughout this post.

Shaun

Haha, no worries Shaun. Hopefully you enjoyed the part you read

I didn't see any announcement on it today, so looks like tomorrow will be the day. If it works out, sweet! If not, then plan B. The work will continue! 'puts on hardhat...'

 

[Red Leader]

You might try a boat shop? Have seen some cool looking rubber covered switches both pushbutton and toggle.

You know, if I was more talented with metalworking, I would TOTALLY do the idea in my head in metal. But as it stands right now, I don't have a torch cutter, reciprocating saw, metal press, welder, or anything else.

So...wood it will be

 

[Red Leader]

Along these same lines - back the cover screws out about a 1/4" and add some springs (or foam) between the box and cover so the entire cover becomes your push button. Just mount a block of wood to the back side of the cover to act as a spacer pushing the original button inside.

I used this trick before to create a stealth switch.

(Of course, you may have to explain where the door button is to your guests )

Shopnut you have a pretty cool idea too. Maybe we should have the 'garage door opener button wars' ?











Then again, we gotta keep the crazy/nerd factor down as much as possible

 

[Red Leader]

Nice work, Dave. I know if feels good to check the lights off the list.

The door opener switch is a neat addition. That flex conduit has the industrial look. Glad you hit it with black. I am blank on cover plate ideas other than the bakelite, although 'black' may fit in better. Not sure what a vintage switch looks like that would be any better than what you and 98TJ are working on now.

Thank you sir! I guess I could always hit the bakelite cover I have with the flat black and just throw it up there and see what everyone thinks. Then again, my ocd will kick in and I'll want to do the design in my head, just because it is up there.

How does my wife put up with me?

 

[Tntdes]

So guys,

I have an interesting and fortunate dilemma. I have been holding a tool for a gentleman. It is a Delta 6" short bed jointer. It has the art deco cast iron base.

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My garage is having a little bit of identity crisis right now. What am I to do? Should I rename the thread to '1950s Woodshop Garage'? '1950s Woodworking Shop'? I don't think '1950s Craftsman/Atlas/Delta/Walker Turner/Red Star Garage' wouldn't quite have the same ring

What do you guys think?

-RL

Dave, I say you keep the Delta.

But this comes from the guy for whom you have graciously given this jointer a home for the past couple of months

I started the resto process last night on the one that I picked up last week.

The Delta short-bed on the Art Deco base is a very stout machine for it's size. But you know that as I'm sure you have had to move it around at least a couple of times.

Have a great event this weekend!

-Todd

 

[shopnut]

Then again, we gotta keep the crazy/nerd factor down as much as possible

Oh darn - that knocks out 99% of my suggestions

Looks like I will need to find another thread to loiter in after all

 

[Richball]

I don't know if it's possible, but maybe you could rework one of these to be a momentary switch to work with you garage door opener.

http://www.rejuvenation.com/fixshow3706/templates/selection.phtml

also you asked for shots of other old Craftsman Arn so here's a shot of my late 30's lathe. I keep meaning to restore it, but two things keep stopping me. One is that I inherited it from my grandfather as is, and the second is that everytime I think about it I need to use it.

Rich Ball
Everett, Wa

 

[Vince B]

Red Leader - I have been following Jack Olsen's 12 gauge thread for a while and recently started looking at others (don't tell Jack I'm cheating on him). I am very impressed with your garage and love the concept. It's amazing to me how many talented guys are out there. I also prefer threads like yours and Jack's that show what you can do with an existing garage as opposed to a new build. Most of us are stuck with what we have and need to make the best of it. Keep up the good work and I will keep watching. Thanks. Vince.

 

[Red Leader]

Oh darn - that knocks out 99% of my suggestions

Looks like I will need to find another thread to loiter in after all

Actually, I was making that comment mainly in consideration for the sanity of our wives

 

[Red Leader]

I was JUST about to unsubscribe due to a total lack of thread content, and then this gets posted ...



Whew - saved in the nick of time!

Close call!!!

 

[Red Leader]

Dave, I say you keep the Delta.

But this comes from the guy for whom you have graciously given this jointer a home for the past couple of months

I started the resto process last night on the one that I picked up last week.

The Delta short-bed on the Art Deco base is a very stout machine for it's size. But you know that as I'm sure you have had to move it around at least a couple of times.

Have a great event this weekend!

-Todd

Haha...well, I guess that settles it!

Just when I come to the forum to get a little group therapy and an outreached hand, I get it...an outreached hand pulling me right off the cliff

I'll chat w/ you over on OWWM and we'll work out some details.

BTW welcome to the 1950s Craftsman Garage thread!!!

 

[Red Leader]

Red Leader - I have been following Jack Olsen's 12 gauge thread for a while and recently started looking at others (don't tell Jack I'm cheating on him). I am very impressed with your garage and love the concept. It's amazing to me how many talented guys are out there. I also prefer threads like yours and Jack's that show what you can do with an existing garage as opposed to a new build. Most of us are stuck with what we have and need to make the best of it. Keep up the good work and I will keep watching. Thanks. Vince.

Don't worry - he'll never have to know!

 

[Red Leader]

Okay, so this is a post for some of you garage door junkies (just kidding, you probably don't exist).

I was adjusting the door today so that when it closes, the panels don't slam onto the concrete floor and squish each other. However, I noticed something interesting. When I open the door and look up top where the sleeve that pulls the door up rests, it contacts this bolt:

By daveamy at 2011-09-15

By daveamy at 2011-09-15

So, here is my question - does this bolt function as a 'stop' to tell the garage door opener when to stop running? Do garage door openers have a set distance that they turn and then stop on their own? I'm trying to figure out if I need to move that bolt back, or if the metal sleeve that runs across that square bar to bring the door up uses that little bolt as the stopping point.

Ideas? Thoughts?

And since those pictures were kind of boring, here is one to dazzle up my post!

By daveamy at 2011-09-15


Also, no word on the contest yet. There was an announcement saying that the winner was to be declared either Tues or Wed, but there was a funeral around that time for them so they can take as much time as they need - I figure we'll all know sooner or later

 

[shopnut]

RL,

Our openers are different so take this for what its worth.

That bolt is the ultimate stop and it merely protects the motor head against over-travel. There are normally limit switch screw adjusters inside the motor housing that are intended to stop the traveler at the proper time, up and down. If it's hitting that bolt, the limit switches are out of adjustment and the motor head is now relying on the torque limiting feature to shut things down - not really a good thing. That is only supposed to be used when something obstructs the door from moving.

Do you have an operator's manual for the door? It will tell you where the adjusters are on the motor head and how to set them. Most are available online if the opener is not too old.

In regards to the flooring contest - they are probably still trying to make the first pass through your story (j/k, of course)

Good luck.

 

[Grandad]

RL, I can't help myself.
That photo just looks SO good with the tools in the same colour as the wall.
Can't wait to see the finished product.

 

[Wingnut65]

RL, I can't help myself.
That photo just looks SO good with the tools in the same colour as the wall.
Can't wait to see the finished product.

Neither can He! And neither can the rest of us... I agree, great shot!

Dave, mine GDO is also different then yours and it has the limiting sensors that shopnut was talking about. My homework assignment tonight will be to analyze the operational procedures of the actual opening feature of the garage door opener and see what happens. I just thought that when I pushed a button, I got more light and fresh air in the garage.

BTW, what door opener do you have (make, model...)?

 

[flybefree]

Dave,

Dumb question...is an Atlas DP made by Craftsman? I am on CL looking...always looking.

Shaun

 

[shopnut]

Epoxy-Coat has some good news for you! Congrats RL.

And FBF - for the lathes, its the other way around. Atlas Press made them and Sears marketed a version under their Craftsman name. Can't tell you about the DP's though.

 

[Red Leader]

It looks like the 1950s Craftsman Garage will be getting a new epoxy floor, courtesy of the fine folks at Epoxy-Coat

A HUGE thanks goes out to Christine and the rest of the crew at Epoxy-Coat. I appreciate you guys putting the contest on and giving us all a chance to make our dreams happen! Thank you so very much!!!

And thank YOU all for your support!! You all were instrumental in this whole thing. Thank you.

More to come...but have to run, the little guy has an appointment this morning

 

[rickairmedic]

Shaun Atlas made many items which they sold as well as letting Sears market them under the craftsman name
( just allowed them to seel even more product by selling it under the craftsman name as well ). Sears has never that I know of made anything for themselves they have baught items from other companies and put their name on them .

My large drill press for example ws made by King seeley for example .



Dave congrats on winning the contest and getting a new floor for the garage ( with no financial investment ) . Now you have to decide on a floor color .




Rick

 

[rickairmedic]

Dave my GDO also has a limit like yours but also has limit switches built into the main control board that can be adjusted to limit how far it opens and also how far it closes . You need to find these and adjust them so that the door just hits the floor and stops as well as adjusting the up limiter so that it doesnt hit that bolt . They use a small screwdriver and are turned one way or the other to change how far the door goes . I have a newer Craftsman opnener that was installed ith my new door after the fire so mine is also most likely slightly differant from yours as I can look up from the floor and see all 4 limit switches . Heres a couple pictures first one whows the limit to the left and also one set of limit switches on the side of GDO . The second pic shows the limit switches on the back of the GDO.

Rick

 

[Wingnut65]

Congrats, Dave. I'm bedazzled at your accomplishment!