Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

[chad s]

Not that the other vintage ratchet and wrench threads aren't cool, they definitely are, but I know there are a lot of Snap on nuts here, and many that have rare Snap on tools that fit neither the ratchet or wrench threads, or any other vintage tool threads that have been started.

I've posted a lot from my collection, lets see some other cool vintage Snap on tools. I have plenty of tools to add, but I'll let someone else put their pride and joy at the top of the thread!

so lets see them all, ratchets, sockets, wrenches, tool boxes, breaker cars, speeders, anything vintage Snap on!

(note to Merkava: I even remembered to keep the "o" in "Snap on" lower case!)

 

[dxdexter]

Chad, at what age is a tool considered vintage? I have a few items but some have no date code. Are all Snap-on tools supposed to have date codes, like the wrenches and sockets?

 

[krusty the clown]

not all have date codes. i have wrenches, sockets and extentions that do not have a date code.

 

[chad s]

Chad, at what age is a tool considered vintage? I have a few items but some have no date code. Are all Snap-on tools supposed to have date codes, like the wrenches and sockets?

Date codes didnt start until 1927, and many tools after that were not date coded, like a lot of breaker bars, speeders, extensions, adaptors, etc. So no date code could mean a very early tool.

Lets see some pics, maybe we I can help you get a rough idea on age.

 

[kbbrett]

I think this is agreat idea. My dad was a Snap On dealer for several years. I have his first Snap On top and Bottom box that he bought used in the mid 70's. I just started using it for a machinist box, so I was cleaning it out today. I found a nice variety of antique Snap On items in it that I had forgotten about. I will get some pics tomorrow. He gave me the box as present in jr. high school.

 

[chad s]

Well I guess I'll be the first to post a pic then!

This is a 1921-1922 speeder. Notice that the retaining method from keeping the drive end from sliding into the socket is 4 pinches in the metal. By 1923 this was replaced with 2 steel balls. The earliest tools (1920) had only 2 pinches.

The socket is a 3/8 square "strike over" socket, which is the earliest snap on marking for sockets, which was used until about 1923-24.

 

[philw]

Here is a Snap-on set that is from my grandfather and uncle. They both had many missing tools but I was able to combine them to get most of the set. I had to add a couple sockets myself, a couple of which are newer. Most of the dates are from 1948 and 1950 with a few others added in.

 

[dxdexter]

Here is a 1956 center punch.

 

[wrenchr]

Here is a Snap-on set that is from my grandfather and uncle. They both had many missing tools but I was able to combine them to get most of the set. I had to add a couple sockets myself, a couple of which are newer. Most of the dates are from 1948 and 1950 with a few others added in.

Wanna sell or trade?? pm me if so.

 

[wrenchr]

I see it is a family pass down, never mind. Sorry

 

[dxdexter]

Here is a King pin puller set from my grandfathers tools. I don't know how old it is and there are no markings. When he started in the trade in the late 20's or early 30's a lot of cars and trucks had king pins.

I suspect it may be from the 40's or 50's.

 

[chad s]

Here is a Snap-on set that is from my grandfather and uncle. They both had many missing tools but I was able to combine them to get most of the set. I had to add a couple sockets myself, a couple of which are newer. Most of the dates are from 1948 and 1950 with a few others added in.

PM me on what sockets you had to replace with newer ones. I may have late 40's one in the sizes you need.

 

[chad s]

Here is a King pin puller set from my grandfathers tools. I don't know how old it is and there are no markings. When he started in the trade in the late 20's or early 30's a lot of cars and trucks had king pins.

I suspect it may be from the 40's or 50's.

As a general rule, 40's boxes were grey, and 50's boxes were red. There was of course crossover.

The italic cursive script came around 1953.

 

[philw]

wrenchr or whoever is interested.
I do have an f-21-n chevy pan socket that is a spare. I already had a f-21 and a f-21-n from my grandfather and I stumbled on another f21n at a flea market and picked it up. It looks like this one listed on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Snap...rewdriver_W0QQitemZ160139340850QQcmdZViewItem
I've noticed this ebay seller seems to price his tools very high so I doubt if it's worth close to what he has it for.
I also have a few s/o sockets that I have picked up at the flea markets that I can part with. I have a 15/16 sw-300 1/2 marked "E" (1941?), a 3/4 sw240 marked with an "*" (1931?), and a 3/4 sw240 from 1941. All 1/2 drive.
I'd be happy to trade anyone any one of the above for a 1/2 drive, 1/2" Plomb socket.....it's the only one I'm missing from a set or an old Snap-on 7/16 12pt. by 3/8 drive from the late 40's early 50's.
Anyone interested can pm me.

 

[dxdexter]

As a general rule, 40's boxes were grey, and 50's boxes were red. There was of course crossover.

The italic cursive script came around 1953.

Do you think this is the original box for this partial 1946 socket set. There is only one Snap-on socket and one universal socket.

 

[chad s]

wrenchr or whoever is interested.
I do have an f-21-n chevy pan socket that is a spare. I already had a f-21 and a f-21-n from my grandfather and I stumbled on another f21n at a flea market and picked it up. It looks like this one listed on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Snap...rewdriver_W0QQitemZ160139340850QQcmdZViewItem
I've noticed this ebay seller seems to price his tools very high so I doubt if it's worth close to what he has it for.
I also have a few s/o sockets that I have picked up at the flea markets that I can part with. I have a 15/16 sw-300 1/2 marked "E" (1941?), a 3/4 sw240 marked with an "*" (1931?), and a 3/4 sw240 from 1941. All 1/2 drive.
I'd be happy to trade anyone any one of the above for a 1/2 drive Plomb socket.....it's the only one I'm missing from a set or an old Snap-on 7/16 12pt. by 3/8 drive from the late 40's early 50's.
Anyone interested can pm me.

I'll trade you a 7/16 3/8 drive 12 point from 1947 for the 1931 3/4 socket, PM me.

 

[chad s]

Do you think this is the original box for this partial 1946 socket set. There is only one Snap-on socket and one universal socket.

Yes, all of the components in the box, and the box are from the same era. That is a very nice set. It may take some time to complete it, but its very nice.

 

[krusty the clown]

the extra long T with the ratchet attatchment peaks my interest!

 

[snapmom]

Its a 24" so from the 20s. very rare.

 

[chad s]

What about the extension on the bottom?

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Can anyone define vintage?

There needs to be some parameters set about how to treat old tools.

To quote ChadS from an earlier thread:

"The field of collecting antique mechanics tools is tiny compared to the wood working tool community, and it seems that no real set of standards has come up."

Perhaps we should set some standards.

-BWP

 

[chad s]

the extra long T with the ratchet attatchment peaks my interest!

If another came up for sale on ebay, I'd be losing sleep over getting it!

 

[krusty the clown]

all i can say is wow..........after seeing the things you have posted i'm embarrased to show my little collection

seriously thanks for coming here and joining us and another thanks for the help you have given me!

 

[krusty the clown]

Can anyone define vintage?

There needs to be some parameters set about how to treat old tools.

To quote ChadS from an earlier thread:

"The field of collecting antique mechanics tools is tiny compared to the wood working tool community, and it seems that no real set of standards has come up."

Perhaps we should set some standards.

-BWP

defining vintage is fairly straight forward. i think grading ( like collectible firearms) will come only after the prices for the items increase.

 

[caper]

Snapmom what size drive is that 4' extension on the bottom?

 

[snapmom]

Its a 5/8 dr. so industrial ext. about 54" long. probably from the 50s-60s.

 

[LoneGunman]

I only have a few things, just a couple of extensions and this ratcheting adaptor, I think it's vintage but don't know. The one on the left obviously.

 

[chad s]

defining vintage is fairly straight forward. i think grading ( like collectible firearms) will come only after the prices for the items increase.

Its hard to say. You see 20 year old snap on tools on ebay labeled as vintage. I think if you showed a woodworking tool collector as 20 year old plane, they would laugh.


In my opinion, most of the interesting period in regards to snap on tools ended in 1945 with the 9/32 drive sets. I do look for some later oddball ratchets, but my main interest personally is in the 20's and 30's tools. Also, the developmental stages of most Snap On tools ended in the late 1930's. Until the Dual 80 snap on ratchets, the technology remained unchanged since then when it comes to ratchets, and just about everything else in Snap on hand tools.

I have always been a collector of primitive, developmental items in American history. I also collect turn of the century era Edison phonographs, and some early televisions. What I look for in these items are examples of progress in the development of the technology involved.


so whats vintage? I dont know how to classify. In cars, its 25 years and older. So a 1980 volvo station wagon is a vintage automobile. Do you care? I dont either. So do we call a 1976 Snap on socket set a vintage set? I guess some may, but such an item really has little or no historical significance.

 

[krusty the clown]

i think historical significance is the text book defintion of vintage

 

[krusty the clown]

here's a new set that came today........9/32'nds drive

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[Frank Elson]

What about using the internationally accepted criteria for cars?

The following terms are applied to old cars in the UK.

The Veteran Car Club (VCC) administers pre First World War cars -

Veteran

Applies to cars constructed up to 31st December 1904. Only these cars may take part in the annual London to Brighton run. This celebrates the Emancipation Run which took place in 1896 upon the repeal of the so called Red Flag Act. This meant that cars could be driven freely without a man walking in front with a red flag!

Edwardian

Relates to cars built from 1905 until the end of the Great War in 1918, but not many were made after about 1915.

The Vintage Sports Car Club (VSCC) covers pre 2nd World War cars -

Vintage

Relates to cars made from the end of the Great War, effectively 1919, until the end of 1930 after which the VSCC considered cars declined in quality of construction.

Post Vintage Thoroughbred

PVT cars are those made from 1931 to the end of 1940 provided they continued to meet certain quality standards eg. Rolls Royce, Sunbeam, Lagonda, Alvis and Talbot.

Classic

This name is usually applied to quality post 1945 cars.<<<<

would that work with tools?

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

here's a new set that came today........9/32'nds drive

Not seen a 9/32nd's Speeder before! Cool!

 

[chad s]

Not seen a 9/32nd's Speeder before! Cool!

The speeder is part number m-44.

When I get home ill post pics of my early 40's snap on 9/32 drive torque wrench.

Krusty, what date code is on the yellow 9/32 nut driver handle?

Also, I should have an extra m-2 extension that should go with that set that ill send your way.

 

[krusty the clown]

the nut driver has what looks like a G but due to light stamping it may be a 1940 code since the line (that would make the center of the g)is on an angle. interestingly the sockets are all 1944 E stamped sockets and some of them have 9/32 stamped under the snap on logo.

chad put the extension with the other stuff you have for me and let me know how much to send you!

 

[snapmom]

I may have the extension for this set, the short one. will ck.

 

[krusty the clown]

I may have the extension for this set, the short one. will ck.

great thanks! i'll also be looking to fill this set in as well, it's 1/4 dated 1944

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[snapmom]

send me a list, I do not collect the 1/4 dr tools, but I do have a few pieces.

 

[chad s]

send me a list, I do not collect the 1/4 dr tools, but I do have a few pieces.

I also have a small pile of 1944 dated 1/4 tools that may help.

is that box repainted black krusty? If so I have an extra box with original paint I use just for storing spares, ill do an even swap if you want so you have one in original paint.

 

[krusty the clown]

I also have a small pile of 1944 dated 1/4 tools that may help.

is that box repainted black krusty? If so I have an extra box with original paint I use just for storing spares, ill do an even swap if you want so you have one in original paint.

it looks like a repaint so yes i'd like to swap if your willing. i'm not sure what the 1/4 set is missing if you have a 40's cat would ya scan that page for me?

 

[chad s]

it looks like a repaint so yes i'd like to swap if your willing. i'm not sure what the 1/4 set is missing if you have a 40's cat would ya scan that page for me?

the 1/4 set is in my 46 catalog, ill scan it tonight.