New giant craftsman tool box

[Matt018]

I just saw this on the sears website, It says its a new item has anyone seen one in person? soes anybody have any info on these? Ot would be neat if craftsman made a heavy duty box to compete with a snap on or mac box. But sadly my guess is that its just gonna be a really expensive piece of rickety trash.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00928211000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

 

[scott0]

my guess is that its just gonna be a really expensive piece of rickety trash.

 

[otis66]

I'd rather buy a used Snap On or Matco for that price.

 

[pipsters]

Hilarious Sears just doesn't get it, we don't want bigger we want better. HF still wins.

 

[dwm]

It's a rebadged International VRB-7515, which can be had for a lot less elsewhere ($1595 at Amazon, with free shipping if you have Prime). This is not a heavy-duty box; it's part of ITB's Value series.

 

[Fedwrench]

It only has a 1 year warranty

 

[WRX/Z28]

HF only has 90 day warranty.


I don't get it. I constantly see craftsman boxes getting bashed, but when I look at them in the store, they seem to be better quality than the HF boxes everyone loves. This is coming from a guy who owns Snap on boxes, and a HF cart. What am I missing here?

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

Sears ..it's only a matter of time

But that wasn't the case at Sears (SHLD 0.00%), where the Kardashian Kollection held sway and was among the elegant products displayed for sale. In fact, Sears was betting the Kardashian name and collection of fashion products would stir up consumer excitement.



Wrong. The products hardly brought in the gushing crowds that celebrity products usually attract. Kmart stores (a Sears unit) also introduced products named after another rising mega star, Sofia Vergara, of the TV show "Modern Family."

 

[Wes28376]

HF only has 90 day warranty.


I don't get it. I constantly see craftsman boxes getting bashed, but when I look at them in the store, they seem to be better quality than the HF boxes everyone loves. This is coming from a guy who owns Snap on boxes, and a HF cart. What am I missing here?

The 3 year old box 26" Cman box I sold to buy the 42" HF box was nowhere near as nice as the HF box I have now. I think the only advantage the Cman box had over the HF box was the smooth, shiny red paint job.

 

[diesel research]

Ot would be neat if craftsman made a heavy duty box to compete with a snap on or mac box.

They used to, but sears customers could not afford the price, nor were they interested in the improved quality.

1-1/2 years ago, their biggest baddest bottom cabinet had 48,000ci capacity, 7,200lb load rating, full 30" deep drawers, spring loaded HD casters, etc, but came with a $9,000 price tag. p/n 009-82463N for example

Even the 56" version with 24" drawers and no spring loaded casters (3600lb rated) ran $4,500.

 

[allinon72]

I'm sure it's of decent quality but they priced it out of the market.

 

[RodneyPierce]

Now, I have a question for you guys. If its HONESTLY A STRONG, STURDY box (which is doubtful, but play devils advocate here) how can you claim that it is priced out of the market?? When a similar "tool truck" brand box would go for 5 times the price? Like I said, highly doubtful, as there current offerings really are NOT up to par with what else is in there price point, but IF they are, how can you claim such a thing???

 

[Jbullfrog]

Now, I have a question for you guys. If its HONESTLY A STRONG, STURDY box (which is doubtful, but play devils advocate here) how can you claim that it is priced out of the market?? When a similar "tool truck" brand box would go for 5 times the price? Like I said, highly doubtful, as there current offerings really are NOT up to par with what else is in there price point, but IF they are, how can you claim such a thing???

1. you have to pay freight
2. there is a 1 year warranty, but you are going to have to ship it back, or take it to a service center.
3. there will be limited resale value, as Sears will more than likely drop the line after 3 months, and the boxes will be discounted to $800.17 for close-out.
4. Sears and Ace hardware don't offer tools for Professional use with a lifetime warranty. Look at the warranty disclaimer sometime. The industrial catalog doesn't list a warranty, but your dealer may replace items at their discretion.

 

[GoBlue]

I think Craftsman and H.F boxes are junk...does that make me a bad guy?

 

[diesel research]

When a similar "tool truck" brand box would go for 5 times the price? Like I said, highly doubtful, as there current offerings really are NOT up to par with what else is in there price point, but IF they are, how can you claim such a thing???

Everytime I see someone make these statements, I call 'em on it. How can you claim such a thing? (that a competitive tool truck unit cost "5x" as much?)


Realistically speaking, the specific competitive boxes you are looking for is the KRA2418PBO or 4325R-DBC. A far cry from "5x"


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Now when we talk about non-truck boxes,

This actually cost less (several hundred dollars less):

 

[Zrexxer]

It's kind of funny that Sears couldn't even bother to publish the size specifications for a two thousand dollar box... all is says is "75 inch."

Kind of looks like it isn't very deep, from the pictures.

 

[RodneyPierce]

Everytime I see someone make these statements, I call 'em on it. How can you claim such a thing? (that a competitive tool truck unit cost "5x" as much?)


Realistically speaking, the specific competitive boxes you are looking for is the KRA2418PBO or 4325R-DBC. A far cry from "5x"


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Now when we talk about non-truck boxes,

This actually cost less (several hundred dollars less):

My bad, my bad, 2.5X the price. That better?

I was just asking how it could be so called priced out of the market. But there was a very good answer a couple posts above, answering that exact question.

 

[Toolman12]

For that kind of money you can get a good used Snappy box or mac from here or craigslist as far as i know the sears box is a piece of **** (heard from a friend)and why not print all the size specifications it may be 75 wide but maybe 18 deep?so if you open more than two drawers at a time it will tip I think i will stay with my kra2411

 

[pipsters]

Now, I have a question for you guys. If its HONESTLY A STRONG, STURDY box (which is doubtful, but play devils advocate here) how can you claim that it is priced out of the market?? When a similar "tool truck" brand box would go for 5 times the price? Like I said, highly doubtful, as there current offerings really are NOT up to par with what else is in there price point, but IF they are, how can you claim such a thing???

It isn't a strong sturdy box. I own the 56" version of that exact tool box and it uses 19 gauge steel. The KRA/KRL use 14/16 gauge steel. HUGE difference. I used to feel the way you did but after picking up the 56" from a tech who used it for 10 months I can honestly say I know why Snap-On can sell a tool box for thousands.

New their prices are out of line but used/student pricing the prices are very fair IMO.

Let's put it this way, the $350 HF 42" box uses thicker gauge metal than that Sears one.

 

[GoBlue]

Tool boxes are one of the few items that i think must be of "truck" brand if you want quality. Snap on, Mac, Matco...all nice. Dont go showing me a rusty old 40's era box the size of a breif case or some wierd euro branded oreintal import either. I mean big, sturdy, life long boxes. Just buy em used. You will only have to buy it once.

 

[crewchief888]

It's kind of funny that Sears couldn't even bother to publish the size specifications for a two thousand dollar box... all is says is "75 inch."

Kind of looks like it isn't very deep, from the pictures.

thats what i was thinking too.

i'd have to see it in person before i'd decide on it.

but i'm that way with everything.
if i cant lay my hands on it, i dont buy it.

 

[otis66]

Now, I have a question for you guys. If its HONESTLY A STRONG, STURDY box (which is doubtful, but play devils advocate here) how can you claim that it is priced out of the market?? When a similar "tool truck" brand box would go for 5 times the price? Like I said, highly doubtful, as there current offerings really are NOT up to par with what else is in there price point, but IF they are, how can you claim such a thing???

You can buy a used truck brand for that price.

 

[ibedayank]

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00916916000P?prdNo=22&blockNo=22&blockType=G22

funny looks just like this one

 

[bobcatdan]

Thats a Canadian sears crapsman box, they just brought it down here. An earlier post had it right, it's a rebadge value line spg international made in Canada. A buddy of mine has one, it's 24" deep and is a fine box for at home. His is pretty full and it doing just fine, but even he says he wouldn't use it for work. He is an indy tool truck and got the thing at cost, like $900 or so.

 

[dieselmike]

yep thats a french international box. made in quebec. garbage.
international *****. thin feeling steel. poor quality control on their decals, both craftsman and international logos, unsmooth corners, poor chroming, yuck yuck yuck.
the craftsman 'professionals' we get up here have the latch, but the ghetto chrome on the drawer pulls is a plastic chrome tape that peels right off.

its funny how many people say how these international boxes are so great, because theyre not. probably because they already bought em and cant return em. absolute garbage, just because its made in canada does not mean its good. the tool boxes available at sears USA , far exceed the quality of sears canada. i have done the 'online chat' with sears and the griplatch boxes are claimed to be made in usa, however the drawer sides on the stainless boxes are marked taiwan. made in usa of global components i assume.

the international boxes are quite shallow, not much room to keep stuff. in no way do they come close to snap on. NAPA canada uses international boxes too.

 

[ptschram]

You will only have to buy it once.

Until you need another one.

(waiting for a taco cart to be delivered sometime before the first of the year)

 

[dsaabm]

yep thats a french international box. made in quebec. garbage.
international *****. thin feeling steel. poor quality control on their decals, both craftsman and international logos, unsmooth corners, poor chroming, yuck yuck yuck.

Yep, I owned one of these boxes (a 54" or 56" model) for 6 months. The locking mechanism was poorly designed, unlocked the box maybe 1/2 the time, whole thing felt flimsy, had a raised brace in the top drawer that was annoying, sold it. The chinese kobalt boxes are better. Kinda a shame.

 

[Carl B]

It isn't a strong sturdy box. I own the 56" version of that exact tool box and it uses 19 gauge steel. The KRA/KRL use 14/16 gauge steel.

According to Snap-On's Quick Reference Chart the Equip KER, Master KRL,
Classic KRA. use 16 gauge on the Back and Sides only - 18 gauge is used everything else like drawers, False Side Panels etc.

Their Heritage Series KRA's use 18 & 20 gauge.

Lista is the only box I've seen that uses 14 gauge on anything other than caster supports.

FWIW,
Carl B.

 

[AZ_Catskinner]

Tool boxes are one of the few items that i think must be of "truck" brand if you want quality. Snap on, Mac, Matco...all nice. Dont go showing me a rusty old 40's era box the size of a breif case or some wierd euro branded oreintal import either. I mean big, sturdy, life long boxes. Just buy em used. You will only have to buy it once.

Yes and no.......Proto boxes are still pretty nice, a lot of our diesel guys use them. Kennedy and Waterloo still make some really high quality units, including the ones that used to be rebadged for Craftsman before the cheesy imports came along.

And for a mere $2,000 you can buy my dream box - the Knaack 112

 

[pipsters]

According to Snap-On's Quick Reference Chart the Equip KER, Master KRL,
Classic KRA. use 16 gauge on the Back and Sides only - 18 gauge is used everything else like drawers, False Side Panels etc.

Their Heritage Series KRA's use 18 & 20 gauge.

Lista is the only box I've seen that uses 14 gauge on anything other than caster supports.

FWIW,
Carl B.

Interesting OK thanks. I measured my SPG and it's definitely 19 gauge, 1-1.1mm or so in width. So I guess the biggest difference with Snap-On is the quality drawer slides then. I wonder if I can retrofit my SPG with higher end 24" slides, then it would be a pretty decent tool box. Although that being said it's still fine the way it is, just looking for a little more support.

 

[diesel research]

And for a mere $2,000 you can buy my dream box - the Knaack 112

My "dream box" might be a jobox or knaack piano drop lid with a few added shelves/drawers and a LOT of hangers/racks. Would kind of be like working out of a giant montezuma truck box with everything hanging in plain sight, sockets along the back rail, screw drivers/prybars/ratcheting handles along one side, wrenches in racks on another side. Small misc **** in various smaller drawers. Hell, airtools might possibly hang off a rack.

Then again, not the most practical in some aspects like moving it around or lack of work space, although a folding table off an outside wall is easy enough.

 

[GSMotorrad]

I read a very intense thread about the construction of many toolboxes, and realized my Viper isn't as intense as I thought it was. Its drawers don't have "rolled edges" and it's undercarriage doesn't have an intense tube frame or anything. It was cheap for how nice it feels in use, it's sturdier than anything I've ever had before.

 

[Greg85mcss]

As previously stated it looks identical to the international vrb7515. I've seen that one for $1200 & it has a 5 year warranty.


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