MrMark
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Try to think about this from the dealer's shoes as well. Dealers get people who go to garage sales and pick up abused tools for .50, $1.00 and then bring the dealer boxes of these cast-offs and say "fix them". All the time the dealer spends processing these warranties (20 hours a week or more) is time taking away from his exisiting routes, customers and family. Dealers expect that they will spend a reasonable percentage of time servicing their customers (or customers of fellow dealers). They are there to make a living like the rest of us and to ensure that the guys with their backs on a crawler can meet the pressure to bill as many hours as they can. Being there for those guys who are under a lot of pressure (more so than ever) to meet their shop's service sales goals. So, step back... what is more "fair"... for the SO dealer to be there when the mechanic who is trying to feed his kids breaks a ratchet or spending 20 hours to service the 2 - 3 guys who have time to go around collecting $1.00 SO tools at garage sales? The warranty was meant to protect the professional who bought the tool initially.... not the people buying them off of garage sales. IF there was not so much abuse of the warranty, then the dealers would generally service the one or two tools bought from a garage sale. These dealers literally have people bring them BUCKETFULLS of garage sale tools to service every week.
Why should the guy who sells tools on an online auction site make the money off the sale and then expect a dealer to service HIS sales??? Yes the dealer makes money off of other sales but that money does not offset all his/her time servicing the sales of the guy who sells on online auctions. Do you give your dealer a cut of what you make selling the tools? (Rhetorical question not one to incite an argument).
While the dealers don't have to pay for the cost of the replacements, they are not reimbursed in any way for their time or their associated costs (shipping materials, boxes). Also, dealers have enormous costs associated with operating their trucks.... far more per tool than Northern tool. Plus, they have the stress of driving, as well as many life threatening experiences and exposure (they are a target for hold-ups and physical injury). AMAZING to me that people want top rate service from a traveling store but don't want to have to pay for that service in any way shape or form.
The "on truck/dealer serviced" warranty was written BEFORE ebay, before warranty abuse and meant to protect the PROFESSIONALs buying/investing in their tools.
That said, Snap-on has a way for casual consumers to get their products warrantied:
http://www1.snapon.com/display/termsofsale.nws
"2. Personal Use Warranties for Products. Customers buying Product for personal use can obtain the Product warranty information by mailing a written request that includes a description of the Product to:
Snap-on Tools Company LLC
Consumer Warranty Information Center
2801 – 80th Street
Kenosha, Wisconsin 53143"
Plan on paying shipping both ways and waiting six weeks (as they no longer manufacture tools at that location (and some have to be shipped off to another site for repair). As long as there is no signs of abuse, they will generally fix/replace the tools. Remember, the original warranty was intended for the PROFESSIONAL who purchased the tool. Back when the original warranty was written, there was no online auction sites and a handshake meant something.
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What a pant load.
Snap-on dealers don't have to do anything other than throw a socket or other tool in a box and either order a new one or give a new one out of inventory. Snap-on pays the shipping on the box and simply weighs it when it is received to verify accuracy and that the dealer is not scamming them on returns. Your post makes it sound like every return is some big deal consuming loads of time "SERVICING" tools. What "service" is this? An occassional ratchet and screwdriver shank? I can see the dealer not wanting to "service" a pile of garage sale sockets because it would take it out of his inventory, but (1) how many do that? and (2) all the dealer has to do is place the order for the customer if he does not want to take the sockets or other stuff out of his inventory.
Snap-on sells tools to everyone who has money to buy them and the warranty is the same whether you work for a dealer or in your garage. There is no such thing as a "professional" warranty. Furthermore, you don't have to call Snap-on to get "authorization" to return your tools, although if you do they may send you a call tag. You make it sound like Snap-on is doing someone a favor warantying their tools. Snap-on charges a hefty premium for that warranty, usually about twice the cost of the tool.
Finally, there is no two way shipping and it doesn't take 6 weeks to "service" the returned tools. The turn around is usually 2 weeks and the only "servicing" of tools is to replace them with new. Your post is filled with factual errors.
That quote you have has nothing to do with anything you are ranting about. It is simply an address where a customer can get information about the warranty on that particular tool - USUALLY LIFETIME. It does not make some distinction between "professional" and "non-professional" users. "Personal use" in that statement means that you are going to use it yourself and not resell it. In other words, the warranty is for end users, whether "professional" or "shite", and not resellers.
READ BEFORE POSTING
"Terms of and Conditions of Sale
1. Offer and Governing Provisions. Snap-on Tools Company LLC ("Snap-on") is pleased to offer for sale the tools and equipment manufactured or marketed by Snap-on ("Product") and the Snap-on branded clothing and accessories ("Gear"), subject to the following terms and conditions. Customer agrees and represents that he is buying the Product and Gear for his own use and not for resale. Customer's placement of an order for a Product and/or Gear constitutes Customer's unconditional acceptance of the following terms and conditions. These terms and conditions are subject to change without prior written notice at any time and in Snap-on's sole discretion.
2. Personal Use Warranties for Products. Customers buying Product for personal use can obtain the Product warranty information by mailing a written request that includes a description of the Product to:
Snap-on Tools Company LLC
Consumer Warranty Information Center
2801 – 80th Street
Kenosha, Wisconsin 53143"
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Not around here that is for damm sure.
I'm sure it will turn this thread into a flame-fest instead of one about obtaining Snap-on warranty...