Why is everything made in China?

[dledinger]

This article goes a long way towards answering that question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?_r=1&hp

"Apple executives say that going overseas, at this point, is their only option. One former executive described how the company relied upon a Chinese factory to revamp iPhone manufacturing just weeks before the device was due on shelves. Apple had redesigned the iPhone’s screen at the last minute, forcing an assembly line overhaul. New screens began arriving at the plant near midnight.

A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.

“The speed and flexibility is breathtaking,” the executive said. “There’s no American plant that can match that.”"


Posted from my iPad.

 

[Danglerb]

I need some of those biscuits.

 

[oldtools]

Those strong tea is what keep you awake.

 

[so2315]

This article goes a long way towards answering that question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?_r=1&hp

"Snap On executives say that going overseas, at this point, is their only option. One former executive described how the company relied upon a Chinese factory to revamp Dual 80 manufacturing just weeks before the device was due on shelves. Snap On had redesigned the Dual 80's at the last minute, forcing an assembly line overhaul. New ratchets began arriving at the plant near midnight.

A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting dual 80 gears into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 Ratchets a day.

“The speed and flexibility is breathtaking,” the executive said. “There’s no American plant that can match that.”"


Posted from my iPad.

I fixed it for you. I just couldn't resist for all the nay-sayers on this site. I am a dual 80 fan! Just in good fun!

 

[Tarheelgarage]

I fixed it for you. I just couldn't resist for all the nay-sayers on this site. I am a dual 80 fan! Just in good fun!

You beat me to it...

 

[Outlawmws]

This article goes a long way towards answering that question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?_r=1&hp

"Apple executives say that going overseas, at this point, is their only option. One former executive described how the company relied upon a Chinese factory to revamp iPhone manufacturing just weeks before the device was due on shelves. Apple had redesigned the iPhone’s screen at the last minute, forcing an assembly line overhaul. New screens began arriving at the plant near midnight.

A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.

“The speed and flexibility is breathtaking,” the executive said. “There’s no American plant that can match that.”"


Posted from my iPad.

Flexibility my ***. Roughly translated: Apple outsourced to a slave labor state. Think any of those people had an option to quit? not a chance...

 

[1steve]

Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.


Seriously do you think the commie slaves had a choice?

 

[William Payne]

Flexibility or not slave labour or not that is the competition as far as manufacturing goes.

 

[1steve]

All the while workers are so despondent over their working conditions that the factory in China that makes the iPhone had to erect netting to catch those who tried to throw themselves to their death.

 

[dledinger]

Flexibility or not slave labour or not that is the competition as far as manufacturing goes.

Exactly....from Apple's perspective, why wouldn't they move to China?

 

[Jeeprz!]

"A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day."

Sounds more like prison labor than a life, but maybe that is a good life for them I dont know.
It reminds me of the old movies that show the depresion era US, long hard hours 7 days a week for little pay that you spend at the company store for overpriced items to try to feed your family. You get sick and don't show up one day = you loose your job and it goes to the next guy in line.

 

[warmpancakes]

hey slavery it gets **** done, think we could build the pyramids or great wall today.

 

[mitusa]

Those "wall street" types have never lied...??????????

 

[Jeeprz!]

hey slavery it gets **** done, think we could build the pyramids or great wall today.

ROFL!

I totally want a tee shirt with "slavery, it gets **** done" across the front!

 

[William Payne]

I have never been to china but in my job I see alot of parts from china and you know whats interesting the address of the chinese companies are industry related. As it says in that article everything is right there right next door, you want 3000 screws just walk down the street, you want a million gaskets just walk next door. Thats what china is like aparently.

 

[kythri]

hey slavery it gets **** done, think we could build the pyramids or great wall today.

Not in the United States with the EPA and environmentalists...

 

[kythri]

ROFL!

I totally want a tee shirt with "slavery, it gets **** done" across the front!

http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shi...one/?xid=3f310ac9-0457-cb84-c5f6-84e75abd0971

(and probably made in Bangladesh! )

 

[Outlawmws]

Flexibility or not slave labour or not that is the competition as far as manufacturing goes.

But it doesn't have to be if people will simply avoid buying anything from main land China and let the Hypocrites** at Apple and other companies know it. Its not that hard for many things, and the high dollar items are easier than anything else.

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http://images.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/pdf/Supplier_Code_of_Conduct_V3_1.pdf

http://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/

 

[dledinger]

If it takes Chinese slavery to give me products like the iMac and iPad, then so be it.

 

[e30bradley]

That was long, when I started reading their where three posts.. I wonder how many their are now. Well, I'm about to find out.
20th! good article, keep posting good articles. I've been reading alot of stuff that has been posted up here in the last week.

 

[William Payne]

From that article it didn't sound like it was a money issue more a work force issue, take the comments in that article regarding the glass, the factory in china was being built before the chinese even got the contract they got thousands of qualified engineers and people and dude men in less then a month. How do you compete when a company in china can say "We can give you what you want and even better the factory is allready there and the staff are waiting"

Don't get me wrong I would love to see more made in america stuff. I am a new zealander would be cool to see more made in new zealand stuff to.

I met a guy who owns a big factory locally and also has a factory in china, he said if he has a problem with work done in china you can't threaten them or complain. The chinese don't care if they make a million things wrong and lose a contract they have a hundred contracts waiting to go that will replace the one they lost.

 

[PRH44]

As far as Apple is concerned
I am sure paying the new CEO Tim Cook 378 million has nothing to do with needing 60 cents an hour chinese labor. No one can compete with 60 cents an hour.
This type of human abuse should be rewarded by slapping a heavy tariff on the products when entering this country.

 

[PRH44]

If it takes Chinese slavery to give me products like the iMac and iPad, then so be it.

So you are good with and support abusing workers to the point of suicide? Paying nothing, starving and poisoning them to death. So that you can have your 500 dollar Ipad? Along the way destroying your fellow country men too.

Outstanding!

 

[MD11]

A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.

“The speed and flexibility is breathtaking,” the executive said. “There’s no American plant that can match that.”"

Disgraceful... Treat human beings like that.

I am an Apple Fanboy.. and I have owned some US Made Apples as recently as my 2003 PowerMac G5... Love their stuff, but it's not just Apple, it's all of those greedy ******* CEO's trying widen the margins so they can pocket more. It's not like they're paying out those savings in dividends or cheaper computers... no way.

But so long as the American consumer puts price above all else, whether quality or the fairness of the labor used to make his item... then this will continue.

I for one don't live by that code, I can afford to buy the best and WHEN I CAN, I do buy from US or EU sources. As a matter of fact, just today I picked up a new vacuum for the wife.. Miele, Made in Germany. It cost's $1100, but then it's a) better than anything else, and b)made by people who earn a good wage, and work under good EU union rules; and I like that 2nd part even more.

 

[kythri]

So you are good with and support abusing workers to the point of suicide? Paying nothing, starving and poisoning them to death. So that you can have your 500 dollar Ipad? Along the way destroying your fellow country men too.

Outstanding!

Got a domestic alternative to an iPad?

Didn't think so!

 

[MD11]

This type of human abuse should be rewarded by slapping a heavy tariff on the products when entering this country.

Give that man the $25,000 prize! That's the answer!

Someone has to get money to the tax coffers to pay all those unemployment checks, and what better way than to tax the very greedy bastards who took the jobs away in the first place.

 

[dledinger]

$500? No.....the base model *****.

But for my $750 dollar iPad with 3G, yes. I could give a **** less what happens in China. I have my own family to worry about.

I don't know what you're talking about with regards destroying fellow countrymen. No comparable product is manufactured in this country.

 

[MD11]

" I have my own family to worry about. "

Any of your family, maybe kids, future kids, grand kids, etc.. plan to work in the US one day?

Or maybe cashier, short order cook, restaurant manager are better jobs than production engineer, factory assembler, or CNC operator?

 

[kythri]

Any of your family, maybe kids, future kids, grand kids, etc.. plan to work in the US one day?

Or maybe cashier, short order cook, restaurant manager are better jobs than production engineer, factory assembler, or CNC operator?

Got a domestic alternative to an iPad?

Didn't think so!

Please, name even one.

 

[MD11]

Got a domestic alternative to an iPad?

Didn't think so!

sometimes you don't have a choice..... I have an arsenal of apple stuff, all made in China... not happy about it, but like you said, what's my alternative?

Sometimes however you have a choice.... US made, or at least EU made.. over Chinese and yet people will still go with the lest expensive, even if they can afford the US made product and it's better. It's the Walmartization of America and I've not seen it in other countries like Germany, England or Italy where I travel quite often. People there seem to have more concern about where something comes from and how well it's made.

 

[PRH44]

$500? No.....the base model *****.

But for my $750 dollar iPad with 3G, yes. I could give a **** less what happens in China. I have my own family to worry about.

I don't know what you're talking about with regards destroying fellow countrymen. No comparable product is manufactured in this country.

You answered my question. Examin what you just said.

 

[William Payne]

In this case though, Apple products are not cheap. Infact their computers are considerably more expensive then their PC counterparts. I don't see any money saving buying apple.

Didn't it talk in that article about the main reasons being size of trained and available work force and factory readiness and flexibilty to sudden changes. I thought they stated that the workforce and factories they needed to do what they wanted in the time they needed it werent available in america?

 

[dledinger]

I have no need to examine my own post....please explain how in the world buying an iPad made in china takes manufacturing jobs away from my children?

 

[MD11]

Please, name even one.

You lost me.. name one what? I didn't say there was an alternative to the iPad. Unless you misunderstood me.

 

[PRH44]

Its not that fact you own an Ipad, if have to own one thats your call and you certianly have the right to buy all the imported slave labor produced products your dwindling income can afford.
Its the attitude that you could careless they are abusive greedy slimballs taking advantage of slave labor and not batting an eye. The fact you support and are pleased with the corporate efforts to undermine the future of our country by making huge profits using said labor.

One should want the chinese to step up and have a voice in labor driving their wages up forcing a more level playing field world wide.
My guess is you are a right to work supporter also just guessing here.

 

[dledinger]

I'm so disappointed that my daughters won't be able to work in a Apple factory installing iPhone glass because production is moved to China

 

[1steve]

Back to OP question, Why is everything made in China?

Money, greed, and politics.

 

[dledinger]

Its not that fact you own an Ipad, if have to own one thats your call and you certianly have the right to buy all the imported slave labor produced products your dwindling income can afford.

What do you know about my income? LMAO.

 

[PRH44]

As the chinese cheap 60 cents an hour labor ***** every manufacturing job out of the USA you dont care. That will affect your children

 

[dledinger]

You want to know what will bring back industry?