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Stephenw

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People are stupid, but...

The auction picture should have been of the coupon.

It should not have been a picture of the item that the coupon is used to purchase.
 

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remember years ago when the Wii had just came out, people were selling the Wii boxes for hundreds of dollars. for just the box. the listing even said it was only for the box that the wii came in. gotta read the listings people!
 

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Seriously though. There were 33 bids on that.

WTH!!!!?

Makes me want to sell coupons on eBay too, but I don't think I could ever bring myself to start a business that is based on people's misunderstanding or misreading of an item. It's probably completely legal, but just seems like you're scamming.
 

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You know what they say about a fool and his money...
 

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... you get what you pay for i supose... wait till the poor ******* who won the auction gets an envelope and not a box lolololol
 

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... you get what you pay for i supose... wait till the poor ******* who won the auction gets an envelope and not a box lolololol
He's not a poor *******, he's an idiot. Sure the seller's tactics are super shady, but it's the buyer's fault for not checking out the details.
 

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I think I paid $130ish for this cabinet when I bought it 2 years ago. What is the price now? Does what the guy paid for the coupon, plus the cost of the cabinet equal more then what the guy could pay for it at the store without the coupon??
 

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The seller will loose the dispute by showing an image of the cart vs the coupon.
 

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The guy has a good seller rating, if someone thinks they're getting a deal, who are we to tell them they're not?
 
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The seller will loose the dispute by showing an image of the cart vs the coupon.

your probobly correct because God forbid someone (the winning bidder) has to take responsibility for his own actions like the inability to read first when we as a society whine till we get our way/moneyback even when its clearly his fault for not reading before he bid.

The guy has a good seller rating, if someone thinks they're getting a deal, who are we to tell them they're not?

very true...a good deal is a state of mind it has nothing to do with price

Looks like the positive feedback is from before he thought up this coupon scam.

i dont think its a scam... i think he posted an auction and a bunch of people were more caught up in being greedy and 'winning' and 'getting a deal' with out reading or researching first... i for one have seen this behavior at live auctions with two or three idiots/bidders trying to 'screw' the other... saw them keep bidding eachother up till they were clearly 2 times retail and a variety of items just to get something the other wanted.

To quote a country song: God is great, beer is good AND PEOPLE ARE CRAZY!!!!
 

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only some kind of flea market carny scum would think up the idea of selling a coupon they got for free, and only a retard would be stupid enough to buy it with money. its a scary world out there boys
 
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i dont think its a scam... i think he posted an auction and a bunch of people were more caught up in being greedy and 'winning' and 'getting a deal' with out reading or researching first... i for one have seen this behavior at live auctions with two or three idiots/bidders trying to 'screw' the other... saw them keep bidding eachother up till they were clearly 2 times retail and a variety of items just to get something the other wanted.

To quote a country song: God is great, beer is good AND PEOPLE ARE CRAZY!!!!

I disagree. He used a picture of the tool cart, not a picture of the coupon in the auction. Additionally, part of the item description lists the tool cart specifications. I think he was counting on people not reading the item description carefully.
 

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your probobly correct because God forbid someone (the winning bidder) has to take responsibility for his own actions like the inability to read first when we as a society whine till we get our way/moneyback even when its clearly his fault for not reading before he bid.

No it's not clearly the buyer's fault for not reading. The seller's image should be representative of what they're actually selling.

A paper coupon vs a tool box???
 

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I've seen the descriptions for coupons that said part of the selling price is going towards paying the seller for the time it takes to cut out and list the coupon.
 

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Chances are that the seller used a couple of alias accounts to increase the bid count making it seem like a hot auction. 20 bids were by one bidder.
 

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i dont think its a scam... i think he posted an auction and a bunch of people were more caught up in being greedy and 'winning' and 'getting a deal' with out reading or researching first... i for one have seen this behavior at live auctions with two or three idiots/bidders trying to 'screw' the other... saw them keep bidding eachother up till they were clearly 2 times retail and a variety of items just to get something the other wanted.

To quote a country song: God is great, beer is good AND PEOPLE ARE CRAZY!!!!

You're right about the bidders probably thinking they're getting a great deal. How's that greedy?

But you're wrong about the seller. He MUST know what he's doing. There are many others who resell HF tools on ebay, Amazon, Craigslist and elsewhere. They mark up the tools by quite a bit, and people still buy them.

One guy on Craigslist drop-ships tool boxes from HF, and he keeps getting away with it b/c people keep giving him their money.
 

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You're right about the bidders probably thinking they're getting a great deal. How's that greedy?

But you're wrong about the seller. He MUST know what he's doing. There are many others who resell HF tools on ebay, Amazon, Craigslist and elsewhere. They mark up the tools by quite a bit, and people still buy them.

One guy on Craigslist drop-ships tool boxes from HF, and he keeps getting away with it b/c people keep giving him their money.

well lets see... its wrong of the seller to get people to bid becasue they think (because they dont read) its a cart and not a coupon (ALL BASED ON ASSUMTIONS BY ALL OF US AS NONE OF US KNOW FOR SURE)... But the various bidders arnt wrong/GREEDY jumping on the bidding bandwagon becaouse they think (we assume) their getting a cart for half price arnt bidding out of GREED wanting that smoking deal? im not saying its right or wrong just that "it is what it is"

i dont disagree with the 'opinion/assumtion' that the seller may be hoping that the bidder bids high thinking its a cart and not a coupon... but he CLEARLY states its a coupon you getting and not a cart. however, PROFIT is not a dirty word... no one made the bidder bid or bid without reading the auction. hell, for all we know maybe the winning bidder will be getting exactly what he's expecting even though that is highly unlikely.
 

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the seller may be a scumbag for preying on the dim (or just inattentive), but he is still offering something very valuable to the winning bidder of those auctions: A lesson in TANSTAAFL.
 

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Never mistake ignorance for stupidity. Ignorance is curable.
...so if the buyer didn't know he probably could have obtained the coupon free from another source, did he get a bad deal? He still got what he paid for, and got the tool cart at a discount from the normal price.

Count me in the ignorant camp until recently. I now know it's usually easy to find the coupons online for free, and that HF sometimes doesn't follow its own policies -- allowing multiple discounts, for instance. All ya gotta do is ask in a nice, friendly way.

Now, if the seller was using an alias (or a confederate) to bid up his own auction, there's a term for that: shill bidding, and it's against eBay's rules. Oh, yeah, there's another term: fraud.
 

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Moat people that know about HF coupons are usually aware of where to find them. Heck, if all free sources run dry, there's still any number of magazines that feature a coupon every month.

OR they could even search on ebay for "Harbor Frieght Coupon" where people sell them in bundles.

It is fair to say that the buyers, especially the person bidding $83, thought they were bidding on a tool cart and not a tool cart coupon.

Yes, the auction says it's a coupon, but people do not read. I've learned this many times over on my own site. I'll say "Giveaway ends Jan 1st 2010" and someone will still enter 2 years later. I will say "You can buy this Kobalt tool at Lowes" and people will email me, asking where they can buy it. I will say "online only" and people will email in complaining that they checked everyone and can't find an item in stores. Some people just don't read details. Other times, it can be easy to miss random details, it happens to everyone.
 

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On the other hand, maybe the seller was just doing it as a joke. Let's hope that he contacts the buyer to explain what he just bought.
He has 3 more of the same listings.

These jokers see one seller pulling these kind of scammy listings and copy-cat.
 

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Personally I don't think you should be allowed to sell coupons on ebay.

If you want to sell your time for cutting out the coupong and finding it, put up a pic of yourself with scissors and a description saying "contact me with your coupon needs".

That being said, I'd side with the seller in the case of the $83 bid. The title clearly says it's for a coupon.
 

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That being said, I'd side with the seller in the case of the $83 bid. The title clearly says it's for a coupon.

But the image shows a box vs. a coupon.

It's a violation to show an image that's non representative of the actual item. I can guarantee you that Paypal will side with the buyer and the seller will likely get a negative FB.

There's nothing wrong with selling coupons. All the seller has to do is show an image of the coupon.

Like this example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbor-Freight-Coupon-10-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-/120848757793?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D180805608348%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5977240226026539656
 

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Re: whos reading this wrong...


That's a very interesting auction...

10lbs of pre-81 pennies. Starting bid, $25.99.

Those pennies are bronze.... 95% copper.

Wiki says a roll of those pennies weighs 5.4 oz. 10lbs is 160 oz, so you should expect basically 29.5 rolls of pennies. There's 50 pennies in a roll, so that's $14.75.

Commodity price of copper is about $3.80 (yeah, I know it's completely different than market price) so 10 lbs is $38 * .95% copper content, $36 bucks.

Shipper is shipping free, which is, what $3.75 for a flat rate box? So shipper's cost is $18.50 + handling.

Assume the package sells for $26. Shipper makes $7-8. Buyer makes $10....

Of course... melting coins is illegal and you'd never find somebody to pay you $3.80/lb for pennies... :lol_hitti

I love trying to work through "deals" like this to their logical conclusions. It's almost like a betting system. It looks like it'll work... but then it never does!
 
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