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Junkman

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How did this get by the electrical inspectors?????
 

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Oh, it is all under 600V so it is all low voltage right? :shocking: :rolleyes:

It is almost scary the things you see when you look close enough.

So either there is no inspections, they paid off the inspector, or the inspector had not been there yet.

It is things like this that make the inspections needed. LOL!
 

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I'd like to know how they got all the wire shoved through the conduit. "Hey Bob...do you see it yet?"
 

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Look at the bright side!
AT least somone was smart enough not to try and cram it all into the box and put a flat cover on it.
 

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You know the scary thing about this is: My brother is in the Apprenticeship program and has been there now for about 3 years. Back in December of last year we had a big storm on the coast of Oregon (biggest anyone alive can remember)...well anyways, he lost half of his roof and during the rebuild he took it upon himself to rewire the whole house, while all of the sheetrock that got soaked was out. anyways...he also upgraded his service and had an inspector out. The inspector came out when he was gone and left him with a bunch of changes that he had to make. My brother was like WHAT?! The inspector is wrong. He called him back out and made sure he was there the second time. When the inspector showed-up he said, "I thought I recognized your name." signed off on it right then and there without any re-inspection! It is definitely a "Good Ol' Boys Club."
 

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The inspector came out when he was gone and left him with a bunch of changes that he had to make. My brother was like WHAT?! The inspector is wrong. He called him back out and made sure he was there the second time. When the inspector showed-up he said, "I thought I recognized your name." signed off on it right then and there without any re-inspection! It is definitely a "Good Ol' Boys Club."

Some inspectors will write up all kinds of stuff if they think an owner did the work. A co-worker bought a semi complete house that had languished for a couple of years. The owner had done some pretty weird things with the wiring in particular, installing huge gangs of switches so that they were behind a door when it was open, and wiring floodlights from switches in the basement, and such. The inspectors had seen all of this and issued stop work previously and this is why the house sold. My co-worker (the new owner) ripped out all the wiring and had an electrician rewire it correctly and he reworked all of the other goofed up problems with the house. The inspectors came out twice while the new owner was not there, and wrote up violations and on the second trip rewrote them. the new owner finally met the inspectors and asked what the problem was, that he had just bought it and trying to get it right, and the suddenly bought off on all the inspections and apologized, stating that they thought this was the same guy who had been doing this a couple of years before. The didn't realize the house had a new owner, and somehow they wanted to keep screwing the old owner, thinking it was him...................... rather than doing their job and inspecting it.

Charles
 

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Some inspectors will write up all kinds of stuff if they think an owner did the work.

That's fine, if they are in fact code violations. All the inspectors in our area list code references on inspection reports. Diyer's shouldn't get off easy just because they aren't electricians.
 
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Here is an interesting factoid for you guys. If the displayed picture was mounted to a ceiling that was say 15' off of an industrial plant floor and an OSHA compliance officer walked past it he should really say nothing about it as long as there is no ready access for an employee to touch it such as a ladder setting adjacent or the like! It is considered guarded by location! This is true, but you never saw me say it met codes!
 

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What's the problem,just put on an extension ring and cover,which the last electrician probably took off and never replaced.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if those are low voltage control circuits. Environment is apparently industrial.
 

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Diyer's shouldn't get off easy just because they aren't electricians.

Typically, I intentionally leave something amiss for the inspector to find.

Sure beats having him ding me for nothing, and Im sure it makes him feel good that he found something :lol_hitti
 

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Originally Posted by Charles (in GA) View Post
Some inspectors will write up all kinds of stuff if they think an owner did the work.

Diyer's shouldn't get off easy just because they aren't electricians.

As I noted, this guy had hired a professional licensed electrician to do the work (there was no sheetrock up, so everything was open.) The inspectors thought they were gigging the original owner/builder.

Charles
 

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Here is an interesting factoid for you guys. If the displayed picture was mounted to a ceiling that was say 15' off of an industrial plant floor and an OSHA compliance officer walked past it he should really say nothing about it as long as there is no ready access for an employee to touch it such as a ladder setting adjacent or the like! It is considered guarded by location! This is true, but you never saw me say it met codes!

I think they would still fail it due on a violation of over crowding. Too many conductors for the cubic inch of junction box. OSHA may ignore it, but an inspector shouldn't. ;)
 

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I think they would still fail it due on a violation of over crowding. Too many conductors for the cubic inch of junction box. OSHA may ignore it, but an inspector shouldn't. ;)

Agreed, plus I am sure it would not comply with some part of the NEC, nor as you have stated;pass the inspector sniff test!
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if those are low voltage control circuits. Environment is apparently industrial.

That sure did not look like what I would expect too see in low voltage wire, it looks like regular ol electrical wires and wire nuts to me. :wtf:
 

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Low voltage doesn't always mean bell wire. Quite frankly, I've seen tighter packed boxes.
 

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The picture was obviously taken inside a factory, which means that very likely an inspector hasn't been within 100ft of that location in years. Not sure how they get by with it, but there's continous electrical work of all kinds done in the plant I work in that never gets seen by an inspector. Doesn't much matter, as the county/city inspectors I've had to deal with around here wouldn't have the first clue where to start once inside the plant.
 
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